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    Originally Posted by ShouldBeStudyin View Post
    too bad shoulders respond the best to cell tech so this thread really doesn't mean much.

    good transformation tho.
    lol, so is that why my quads exploded too after starting to hit them ATM, going lighter and feeling the whole movement while increasing the time under tension during movements? na couldn't be, def gear!

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    tips for performing face pulls correctly?

    I can never seem to get that burn in the rear delts that everyone talks about..

    how high do you place the cable, do you use the rope, any other advice appreciated as well.
    do them on a seated cable machine that usually targets your back. Swap the attachment (if you can) for the rope (the one you'd usually use to do triceps). Doing them seated takes worrying about stabilizing your body out of it and you can focus purely on your delts. Try and pull with your elbows and keep your elbows at least at shoulder height, if not a bit higher. Don't go so heavy that your traps are doing the work. Easy
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    Look great OP.

    I recently started doing face pulls as well, they really have made quite a difference in my delts, just from adding that one exercise. I had never really done them in the past, but they are going to be a staple of my shoulder workout from here on. That and being more strict with my lateral raise form really made a marked improvement. Keep up the good work.
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    OP I think you'd get less haters if you posted pics that showed you steadily progressing to your current physique. Not hey look beta ****g0t to alpha as fuark
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Seated DB press, elbows as far back as possible, grip pretty wide. All the way up and down (as long as it's comfortable) 3x 10-12
    Face pulls 3x10
    Reverse pec dec 3x10
    DB lat raise for side delts 4x15
    Cable lat raise (1 arm at a time) 3x10-12

    easy, just use weight you can contract your delts with and leave your ego at the door
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    Saw this thread yesterday, smashed shoulders last night. I've neglected rear delts for a while, hit those too last night. Thanks OP
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    Ohp?


    Anyways nice job, for me I have always had solid delts and traps, never hit them hard, but now I'm noticing a major increase in size after incorporating OHP.

    Also, LOL at *******s claiming tech, this is what three years of hard work would give you
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    Originally Posted by mols0n View Post
    OP I think you'd get less haters if you posted pics that showed you steadily progressing to your current physique. Not hey look beta ****g0t to alpha as fuark
    Haha yeah, I'll get some in-between pics up tonight. Can't really do it right now (at work)

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    thanks bro
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    Originally Posted by TwinBrah View Post
    Saw this thread yesterday, smashed shoulders last night. I've neglected rear delts for a while, hit those too last night. Thanks OP
    Good stuff man! I got quads today and delts tomorrow. Needless to say I'm amped
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    Originally Posted by Oko93 View Post
    Ohp?
    Only form of OHP'ing I do is seated DB pressing. I used to do the same using a barbell in the power rack though, works awesome cause you can go slightly heavier.
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Haha yeah, I'll get some in-between pics up tonight. Can't really do it right now (at work)



    Np


    Good stuff man! I got quads today and delts tomorrow. Needless to say I'm amped
    Legs or chest today...not sure which to do.
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    cable lat raise and db lat raise ? aren't they working the same group ? How come you doing them in the same workout ? also no front delts ?
    looking swole op gj
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    Originally Posted by TwinBrah View Post
    Legs or chest today...not sure which to do.
    Whichever is the most well rested :-) Train smart, you won't always be able to hit your fave bodypart as often as you like and that's the nature of the beast if you want the best gains possible in the least amount of time

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    Originally Posted by JimWasted View Post
    cable lat raise and db lat raise ? aren't they working the same group ? How come you doing them in the same workout ? also no front delts ?
    looking swole op gj
    Front delts get smashed during seated DB pressing for me, plus they get worked a fair bit during chest, imo.

    I do both because they feel quite different and I like doing high volume. With the cable, I start the movement very very low with my hand actually going behind me (watch how Jay Cutler does them, exactly like that), with a slight lean. Feels slightly different to your usual strict standing or seated db lat raise :-)
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    Damn nice lookin rear delts. My delts are my strongest body part too. I work them twice a week, but the second time only focusing on rear delts.
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    I've already posted a leg shot in this thread? Nice capitals though, let the jimmies rustle through you

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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Whichever is the most well rested :-) Train smart, you won't always be able to hit your fave bodypart as often as you like and that's the nature of the beast if you want the best gains possible in the least amount of time



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    How much did you weigh in your before pic? You look pretty light and scrawny. Good physique now though. What weight/bodyfat you at now?
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Front delts get smashed during seated DB pressing for me, plus they get worked a fair bit during chest, imo.

    I do both because they feel quite different and I like doing high volume. With the cable, I start the movement very very low with my hand actually going behind me (watch how Jay Cutler does them, exactly like that), with a slight lean. Feels slightly different to your usual strict standing or seated db lat raise :-)
    I see, I'm gonna try smashing side delts with high volume and do them face pulls ( never did that lol)
    also how often do you train each bodypart ? I do legs 2x and everything else just 1x a week
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    How much did you weigh in your before pic? You look pretty light and scrawny. Good physique now though. What weight/bodyfat you at now?
    110kgs pure fat, no muscle. Really really let myself go...
    Originally Posted by JimWasted View Post
    I see, I'm gonna try smashing side delts with high volume and do them face pulls ( never did that lol)
    also how often do you train each bodypart ? I do legs 2x and everything else just 1x a week
    Everything once a week except for arms and side delts.

    Chest + high volume tris + few sets of side delts
    Back + high volume bis
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    Delts high volume
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post

    110kgs pure fat, no muscle. Really really let myself go...
    Ok, something to consider for the people calling you out for being on celltech.

    OP started off at 110kg (242lbs) at about 30% bf (could be slightly more or less)

    bw = 242lbs , bf % = 30

    fat weight = 72.6lbs

    LBM = 169lbs

    OP's new body-comp:

    230lbs (I'm guessing around 14% judging from your back pic).

    fat weight = 32.2lbs

    LBM = 197.8lbs

    That is a total of 28.8 lbs of lean body mass in 3 years, which works out at 9.6lbs a year. Completely doable natty.

    However, you started off fat as **** so I'm not sure if you got really skinny after the first year, and then bulked up again after you lost the initial 'fluff'?

    Also, your routine looks like shid, but if you're consistent you could still see those gains after 3 hard years of proper training and nutrition. It's surprising that you lift such light weight for your shoulders, yet you weigh 230lbs, which says to me that you are on something to promote growth no matter what you do, because, your routine and amount of weight lifted are both poor in terms of progressions. Most natties need to progressively increase the weight they lift in order to produce new growth, or they'll stall, or, go backwards.

    At any rate, this was just a post to the people calling you out, I don't really care. You made a fantastic transformation and you look a hell of a lot better than you did 3 years ago, so props.
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    Originally Posted by TheBiG_Z View Post
    He has one pic up and you ****s are creaming yalls' pants. LMAO

    Post more pics OP
    Will do tonight big dawg

    Originally Posted by likeawashboard View Post
    Ok, something to consider for the people calling you out for being on celltech.

    OP started off at 110kg (242lbs) at about 30% bf (could be slightly more or less)

    bw = 242lbs , bf % = 30

    fat weight = 72.6lbs

    LBM = 169lbs

    OP's new body-comp:

    230lbs (I'm guessing around 14% judging from your back pic).

    fat weight = 32.2lbs

    LBM = 197.8lbs

    That is a total of 28.8 lbs of lean body mass in 3 years, which works out at 9.6lbs a year. Completely doable natty.

    However, you started off fat as **** so I'm not sure if you got really skinny after the first year, and then bulked up again after you lost the initial 'fluff'?

    Also, your routine looks like shid, but if you're consistent you could still see those gains after 3 hard years of proper training and nutrition. It's surprising that you lift such light weight for your shoulders, yet you weigh 230lbs, which says to me that you are on something to promote growth no matter what you do, because, your routine and amount of weight lifted are both poor in terms of progressions. Most nattys need to progressively increase the weight they lift in order to produce new growth, or they'll stall, or, go backwards.

    At any rate, this was just a post to the people calling you out, I don't really care. You made a fantastic transformation and you look a hell of a lot better than you did 3 years ago, so props.
    I initially cut down for the first 7 months or so, then slowly bulked up, did a couple cuts and bulks in between. I've tried lots of routines, this is working pretty well for me. What part of my routine is 'shid'?
    My transformation: 7 months :)

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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Will do tonight big dawg



    I initially cut down for the first 7 months or so, then slowly bulked up, did a couple cuts and bulks in between. I've tried lots of routines, this is working pretty well for me. What part of my routine is 'shid'?
    For starters, it looks like you're doing a lot more pushing than pulling. You're doing way more tricep work than your bis. Your bis get hit on back day, and then again on arm day. Whereas your triceps get pounded on chest day (from chest work and direct tricep work), again on shoulder day with more pressing, and then again on arms day. Don't get me wrong, you may very well have good proportions bicep-tricep- wise, but I know even from my own training that my triceps overpower my biceps. Even if yours don't, the volume alone isn't necessary unless you really want huge triceps. If you weren't only training your chest and shoulders once a week you could actually be hindering those pressing movements and subsequently your chest and shoulder development, (again, you have made great progress, but you might have been able to progress more efficiently).

    Secondly, you might make better gains hitting every body part twice a week. Your legs look decent, but mine are bigger at a lighter bodyweight and only been back for a year and a half after a 7 month lay off (kind of like your before but less fat).

    Your routine just looks like a typical geared-up bodybuilder routine, instead of a routine logically put together for the best progression in terms of hypertrophy and overall physical strength.

    Edit: By the way, I used to train like you did, but since I adopted the idea of training for progression, my 'gainz' have been coming much quicker.
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    Hmm, well, my bis far outpower my tris so I'm not concerned too much. May drop them them from chest day though
    My transformation: 7 months :)

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    post pic of when he didnt lift from 3 years ago shows pic of current status saying delts were lacking 4 months ago.

    STROOOOOONG wtf if they were lacking show a pic of the from 4months ago and show a pic of you now you attention seeking whore
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