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    I'm sure pepper spray is pepper spray, but what are you using for EDC spray? Like just to put in your pocket.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Not a clue.

    My best guess would be that the elitist pricks who wrote the law wanted to make it as difficult as possible for people to actually get some, and the vast majority seem to have a marking/ID dye in them. Kind of like how gun grabbers succeed when they require training, require permits, make the permits/licenses cost more, prohibit certain features, etc, it effectively reduces the number of regular folks that can do it. By limiting the size and the ingredients (some say no dye, some limit OC %, some limit major capsaicinoid content) they effectively kinda sorta ban it, while being able to say that all they are doing is instituting "common sense measures" or some other bull****. But hey, they have LE and/or personal private armed security and even if the broke the law nobody is going to enforce on them, so what do they care?
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    Originally Posted by EQUlLIBRIUM View Post
    All I see is $20/box?

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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    All I see is $20/box?
    a box is 50 Rounds
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    Originally Posted by EQUlLIBRIUM View Post
    Possibly a health concern maybe. Allergy or cancer related.(dono though)
    capsaicin is already carcinogenic on its own

    edit: alright, i guess pub med gov is saying the older studies were flawed and that capsaicin is not much of a carcinogen
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    theres brass 223 for .42cpr from cabelas (maybe not right now but its been coming in stock often)
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    Originally Posted by livebrah View Post
    capsaicin is already carcinogenic on its own
    shiet

    thats not good , i carry OC daily and get contaminated annually because im an instructor

    are there any reputable studies that have linked capsaicin to causing skin cancer?

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    Originally Posted by EQUlLIBRIUM View Post
    a box is 50 Rounds
    Oh, it says 20

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    Yeah, I laughed.
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    Originally Posted by .aeterna View Post
    shiet

    thats not good , i carry OC daily and get contaminated annually because im an instructor

    are there any reputable studies that have linked capsaicin to causing skin cancer?
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22563012
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Wish I could find a .380 Auto ammo deal like that.


    Fuuuuuu...so much out of stock and when it is in stock, my ammo is running around 75-cents a round. Also wish I could find something in a quantity larger than 50.


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    Originally Posted by .aeterna View Post
    shiet

    thats not good , i carry OC daily and get contaminated annually because im an instructor

    are there any reputable studies that have linked capsaicin to causing skin cancer?
    check this, it sounds like there is a lot of uncertainty with capsaicin's carcinogenic properties

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22563012/

    i'd be pretty boned because i eat a lot of spicy food
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Oh, it says 20
    yes the title of the page does, but the item says 50. Item 115783, then click the arrow next to it, displays the 50 round

    that is why it sold out fast
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    Yeah, I laughed.

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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    I'm sure pepper spray is pepper spray, but what are you using for EDC spray? Like just to put in your pocket.
    They most certainly are not all created equal.

    What to look for, primarily, is major capsaicinoids content. Don't get caught up on the SHU rating, that is less important than OC percentage which is less important than capsaicinoids content.

    I used to carry Fox, for years, because I got caught up in their 5.3 million SHU advertising. Fox is hot stuff, don't get me wrong, and I'd really hate to get plastered with it, but IMO now Sabre Red is where it's at. 10% oleoresin capsicum and 1.33% major capsaicinoids content. Also I have been sprayed with what I believe was a Sabre product and it mother ****ing sucked.



    http://www.tacticaldistributors.com/...ossfire-stream

    Specifically I moved to the Sabre Red Crossfire last year. My wife keeps one in her purse and also a Sabre red spitfire on her keychain. The downside to the Sabre Red Crossfire is that the can is huge. It's noticeably larger than a 2oz can of Fox labs OC. It is the most annoying thing I put in my pockets. Typically I don't notice it, but depending on how shallow or small the front pockets are (especially problematic in some shorts), it just gets annoying and sometimes falls out if sitting on a couch for a long time, etc. But I've been daily carrying a 1.5-2.0 oz OC up there for the past 8 years.

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    .40CPR .223 Tula

    Phuck CTD. I will never buy from them again after the Sandy Hook price gouging. I was looking at an ammo can full of 5.56 tracers back in December, because me and some friends were going to do a night shoot. Price went from $300ish for 840 rounds to $900 for 840 rounds overnight. Then they were selling PMAGs for $99. Phuck Cheaper Than Dirt.

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    Originally Posted by bustermac View Post
    Wish I could find a .380 Auto ammo deal like that.


    Fuuuuuu...so much out of stock and when it is in stock, my ammo is running around 75-cents a round. Also wish I could find something in a quantity larger than 50.


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    And I know, I've taken crap in here already for my first gun purchase...it's what I have for now and I think it's serviceable for the time being for my wife and I. Gotta start somewhere.
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    Originally Posted by nick911sc View Post

    It was mostly because I saw Relentless posting CTD and was anticipating the first response. Yours got cheeky points.
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    Originally Posted by bustermac View Post


    And I know, I've taken crap in here already for my first gun purchase...it's what I have for now and I think it's serviceable for the time being for my wife and I. Gotta start somewhere.

    You're going to take crap from the MFC.

    At the end of the day, you're still a brother in arms.
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    Originally Posted by bustermac View Post



    And I know, I've taken crap in here already for my first gun purchase...it's what I have for now and I think it's serviceable for the time being for my wife and I. Gotta start somewhere.
    What did you buy that you got crap about?

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    Originally Posted by bustermac View Post
    Wish I could find a .380 Auto ammo deal like that.


    Fuuuuuu...so much out of stock and when it is in stock, my ammo is running around 75-cents a round. Also wish I could find something in a quantity larger than 50.


    MFCers - What are your favorite online ammo sources? Checked Cheaper Than Dirt, Cabella's, Gander Mountain, the usual retail shops...



    And I know, I've taken crap in here already for my first gun purchase...it's what I have for now and I think it's serviceable for the time being for my wife and I. Gotta start somewhere.
    U wot m8.

    Ive been finding 380 for 30-40cpr.

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    Originally Posted by NickDigger View Post
    Phuck CTD. I will never buy from them again after the Sandy Hook price gouging. I was looking at an ammo can full of 5.56 tracers back in December, because me and some friends were going to do a night shoot. Price went from $300ish for 840 rounds to $900 for 840 rounds overnight. Then they were selling PMAGs for $99. Phuck Cheaper Than Dirt.
    Price gouging.


    Well, ok.

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    Originally Posted by EQUlLIBRIUM View Post
    yes the title of the page does, but the item says 50. Item 115783, then click the arrow next to it, displays the 50 round

    that is why it sold out fast
    they have 4.6 hk

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    Originally Posted by bustermac View Post
    Wish I could find a .380 Auto ammo deal like that.


    Fuuuuuu...so much out of stock and when it is in stock, my ammo is running around 75-cents a round. Also wish I could find something in a quantity larger than 50.


    MFCers - What are your favorite online ammo sources? Checked Cheaper Than Dirt, Cabella's, Gander Mountain, the usual retail shops...



    And I know, I've taken crap in here already for my first gun purchase...it's what I have for now and I think it's serviceable for the time being for my wife and I. Gotta start somewhere.

    Anyone use LuckyGunner.com ?

    They actually have my caliber in stock for a decent price.

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