jack3d advanced formula

[Kdawg22]

None All I had today was one cap of Ripped Freak fat burner (stuff is weak sauce) since it was only treadmill day. I change up my stims on the daily

I'm a stim fiend that hates caffeine. Dendrobium, DMAA I'll take that sh*t all day erryday haha

[Dewey99]

I'm a stim fiend that hates caffeine. Dendrobium, DMAA I'll take that sh*t all day erryday haha

Stim fiend or junkie? It's such a fine line....

Just playing, of course. You can definitely have a super strong product without much caffeine in it. It kills me when people call products like Enhanced low-stim because they don't have 300-400 mg of caffeine.

I personally love DMAA and have a nice stockpile myself.

[Kdawg22]

Stim fiend or junkie? It's such a fine line....

Just playing, of course. You can definitely have a super strong product without much caffeine in it. It kills me when people call products like Enhanced low-stim because they don't have 300-400 mg of caffeine.

I personally love DMAA and have a nice stockpile myself.

I know people forget that Craze does not have a high dose of caffeine....

[kissdadookie]

Stim fiend or junkie? It's such a fine line....

Just playing, of course. You can definitely have a super strong product without much caffeine in it. It kills me when people call products like Enhanced low-stim because they don't have 300-400 mg of caffeine.

I personally love DMAA and have a nice stockpile myself.

Speaking of Enhanced. I have my bottle at the ready. Dropped into the dreaded GNC last night and picked up a tub. Shall crack this baby open on Saturday. Going to stick with Hyde tomorrow for deadlifts and a full legs and abs + obliques buffet tomorrow Maybe make it a two scoop Craze day... haven't fully decided yet :P

My oh my has this thread derailed far far far from the original topic. Lulz.

[GigaPaladin]

Speaking of Enhanced. I have my bottle at the ready. Dropped into the dreaded GNC last night and picked up a tub. Shall crack this baby open on Saturday. Going to stick with Hyde tomorrow for deadlifts and a full legs and abs + obliques buffet tomorrow Maybe make it a two scoop Craze day... haven't fully decided yet :P

My oh my has this thread derailed far far far from the original topic. Lulz.

Well if you're talking about Enhanced then its still pretty much on the original topic

[kissdadookie]

well if you're talking about enhanced then its still pretty much on the original topic

ha ha ha.

[Superman Mk II]

Looks crap, took out the best ingredients.
On a side note, Enhanced is the bomb, best pre wo ive ever used, mind muscle connection, pumps, focus

[NorCalMike]

Stim fiend or junkie? It's such a fine line....

Just playing, of course. You can definitely have a super strong product without much caffeine in it. It kills me when people call products like Enhanced low-stim because they don't have 300-400 mg of caffeine.

I personally love DMAA and have a nice stockpile myself.

Do you take straight DMAA pills? What DMAA pre-workouts do you use? Imo, Mesomorph and Jack3d are the best. Scivation Quake and Iforce Maximize V2 were both very good before being discontinued as was the original MST Ragnarok.

[OneMA2011]

I know people forget that Craze does not have a high dose of caffeine....

But 20mg of a methamphetamine analogue?

[Dewey99]

Do you take straight DMAA pills? What DMAA pre-workouts do you use? Imo, Mesomorph and Jack3d are the best. Scivation Quake and Iforce Maximize V2 were both very good before being discontinued as was the original MST Ragnarok.

I do take Primaforce DMAA caps. I have used them solo as well as stacked with some pwo's.

My favorite DMAA pwo's are Mesomorph, the old Neurocore and Muscle Marinade. I don't use them that often though.

I am also a huge fan of the original iForce Dexaprine with DMAA. It's the best pure-energy supp in my opinion.

[bencarpenter]

Speaking of Enhanced. I have my bottle at the ready. Dropped into the dreaded GNC last night and picked up a tub. Shall crack this baby open on Saturday. Going to stick with Hyde tomorrow for deadlifts and a full legs and abs + obliques buffet tomorrow Maybe make it a two scoop Craze day... haven't fully decided yet :P

My oh my has this thread derailed far far far from the original topic. Lulz.

Looks crap, took out the best ingredients.
On a side note, Enhanced is the bomb, best pre wo ive ever used, mind muscle connection, pumps, focus

Thanks guys.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Looks crap, took out the best ingredients.
On a side note, Enhanced is the bomb, best pre wo ive ever used, mind muscle connection, pumps, focus

Awesome dude, thanks for the feedback. It was formulated to be a comprehensive product...you using the UK version?

[ChrisLS8]

I just think that its funny they have decided to use tubs identical to the DMAA version.

They want that same recognition from customers upon seeing the bottle and thinking its the old version. It will work at least for awhile

[De__eB]

I just think that its funny they have decided to use tubs identical to the DMAA version.

They want that same recognition from customers upon seeing the bottle and thinking its the old version. It will work at least for awhile

I don't see why anyone that liked the original formula wouldn't also like this version...it's unarguably a better muscle builder and will have comparable stim content....

Just because people are used to being cracked out of their mind by now doesn't mean the product is any worse.

Find a better equipped finished product preworkout for 88 cents/full serving.

[2010gt1]

I don't think I'll try it. It doesn't have any citrulline, which I want 2g atleast per scoop

[Mr.Cooper69]

I don't see why anyone that liked the original formula wouldn't also like this version...it's unarguably a better muscle builder and will have comparable stim content....

Just because people are used to being cracked out of their mind by now doesn't mean the product is any worse.

Find a better equipped finished product preworkout for 88 cents/full serving.

I agree, this version is much better from an ergogenic perspective. They license their nitrates from RK, and he won't let that happen unless the dose is right. I don't see how anyone can even compare this version to the original jack3d which was mostly arginine...bulk DMAA/ephedrine ftw

[kissdadookie]

I don't see why anyone that liked the original formula wouldn't also like this version...it's unarguably a better muscle builder and will have comparable stim content....

Just because people are used to being cracked out of their mind by now doesn't mean the product is any worse.

Find a better equipped finished product preworkout for 88 cents/full serving.

OG Hyde 82 cents per serving, just saying :P Not much for cognitive boosts but it's a damn good thermogenic preworkout and decent pump.

Or current Mr. Hyde is good as well, just doesn't have the DMAA.

[Dewey99]

I don't see why anyone that liked the original formula wouldn't also like this version...it's unarguably a better muscle builder and will have comparable stim content....

Just because people are used to being cracked out of their mind by now doesn't mean the product is any worse.

Find a better equipped finished product preworkout for 88 cents/full serving.

While I agree that the new formula is better than the old, I think it's a huge stretch to to call it a great value. First of all, you don't really know how much of anything is in there and second, the stuff that is listed out like caffeine makes me think I need multiple scoops and all of a sudden the value isn't so great. There are a lot of pwo's I would choose before this one from a value perspective.

[De__eB]

While I agree that the new formula is better than the old, I think it's a huge stretch to to call it a great value. First of all, you don't really know how much of anything is in there and second, the stuff that is listed out like caffeine makes me think I need multiple scoops and all of a sudden the value isn't so great. There are a lot of pwo's I would choose before this one from a value perspective.

That's 44 cents/scoop or 88 cents/full serving.

You can pretty well ascertain the dosing of the ingredients in spite of their clever labeling.

7,160mg of ingredient in two scoops, consisting of something resembling the following I can guarantee would not be far from the actual portions:

3g Creatines
1.8g Arginine Nitrate
2g Beta Alanine
200mg Pine Bark
100mg yohimbe
40mg higenamine
20mg swertia

--

Specially, it's pretty much inarguable that it's a better deal than your own MTs concentrate Neurocore, you're looking at less beta alanine, the same amount of creatine, and nitrates frankly blow citrulline out of the water, along with the pine extract for further NO enhancement.

Jack3d AF would be a better deal at the same price per serving, however neurocore is at a 50% higher price, and needs 3 scoops for a full dose instead of 2. So if the 88 cents per full serving product is a bad deal in your eyes what do you think of your $2 per full serving preworkout that isn't even a superior formula on paper?

[SwolenONE]

Got the IC email, expected it to be more different than the other jacked version and enhanced than the formula is.

[Superman Mk II]

Awesome dude, thanks for the feedback. It was formulated to be a comprehensive product...you using the UK version?

Yeah using the UK version which lacks the Yohimbe complex i believe, Saw the novel addition of leucine nitrates in synergy with agmatine and took the plunge, on first inspection i didnt expect much from the stim blend but i was wrong.

I was impressed because i've used a lot of pre workouts and even with the DMAA ban, Enhanced outperformed them. Vascularity is about as sickening as it gets, muscles have a clean tight feeling, ontop of that the stimulating effect hits you like a clean calm unintrusive wave, in synergy with one another you get a mind muscle connection that outperfoms anything else ive tried. and litrally no post workout cognitive crash, also felt body temprature rise considerably around the core, unsure why could be the ADRB2 ingredients.

Would like to do 1 scoop enhanced and 1 scoop alphamine combo hnnnggggg

[Jakeylee]

Yeah using the UK version which lacks the Yohimbe complex i believe, Saw the novel addition of leucine nitrates in synergy with agmatine and took the plunge, on first inspection i didnt expect much from the stim blend but i was wrong.

I was impressed because i've used a lot of pre workouts and even with the DMAA ban, Enhanced outperformed them. Vascularity is about as sickening as it gets, muscles have a clean tight feeling, ontop of that the stimulating effect hits you like a clean calm unintrusive wave, in synergy with one another you get a mind muscle connection that outperfoms anything else ive tried. and litrally no post workout cognitive crash, also felt body temprature rise considerably around the core, unsure why could be the ADRB2 ingredients.

Would like to do 1 scoop enhanced and 1 scoop alphamine combo hnnnggggg

Would like to confirm.

1 scoop:
Borderline painful pump
Excellent mind-muscle connection + focus (even with workout partners there).
Mood enhancement similar to Alphamine (no surprise of course - I was having a great time training).
PRs.

Isn't the temp increase from the aegeline ingredient (sp? Right compound - long name one?)

I'm definitely doing the above combo when cutting - as naughty as it is.

[Mr.Cooper69]

That's 44 cents/scoop or 88 cents/full serving.

You can pretty well ascertain the dosing of the ingredients in spite of their clever labeling.

7,160mg of ingredient in two scoops, consisting of something resembling the following I can guarantee would not be far from the actual portions:

3g Creatines
1.8g Arginine Nitrate
2g Beta Alanine
200mg Pine Bark
100mg yohimbe
40mg higenamine
20mg swertia

--

Specially, it's pretty much inarguable that it's a better deal than your own MTs concentrate Neurocore, you're looking at less beta alanine, the same amount of creatine, and nitrates frankly blow citrulline out of the water, along with the pine extract for further NO enhancement.

Jack3d AF would be a better deal at the same price per serving, however neurocore is at a 50% higher price, and needs 3 scoops for a full dose instead of 2. So if the 88 cents per full serving product is a bad deal in your eyes what do you think of your $2 per full serving preworkout that isn't even a superior formula on paper?

The pine bark extract is above the BA

Yeah using the UK version which lacks the Yohimbe complex i believe, Saw the novel addition of leucine nitrates in synergy with agmatine and took the plunge, on first inspection i didnt expect much from the stim blend but i was wrong.

I was impressed because i've used a lot of pre workouts and even with the DMAA ban, Enhanced outperformed them. Vascularity is about as sickening as it gets, muscles have a clean tight feeling, ontop of that the stimulating effect hits you like a clean calm unintrusive wave, in synergy with one another you get a mind muscle connection that outperfoms anything else ive tried. and litrally no post workout cognitive crash, also felt body temprature rise considerably around the core, unsure why could be the ADRB2 ingredients.

Would like to do 1 scoop enhanced and 1 scoop alphamine combo hnnnggggg

It's the whole host of ingredients at play. You have all sorts of autonomic activity going on, which is reflected by the caffeine content relative to the effects.

Would like to confirm.

1 scoop:
Borderline painful pump
Excellent mind-muscle connection + focus (even with workout partners there).
Mood enhancement similar to Alphamine (no surprise of course - I was having a great time training).
PRs.

Isn't the temp increase from the aegeline ingredient (sp? Right compound - long name one?)

I'm definitely doing the above combo when cutting - as naughty as it is.

Thanks for the feedback! Like I said above, it's likely due to the entire stim complex coming together, not to mention improved bloodflow from the nitrates + agmatine.

[bencarpenter]

Nice to see some UK folk.

[De__eB]

The pine bark extract is above the BA

Did you not see my clever labelling comment?

They've got parenthesis around the arginine nitrate and the pine bark, so it's:

(Creatine mono, Creatine anhydrous), (Arginine Nitrate, Pine Bark), (Beta Alanine)

They're saying the sum of the arginine nitrate and pine bark are greater than the amount of beta alanine.

And that the arginine nitrate is greater than the pine bark.

Lots of companies are doing that now, even though it is definitively against label regulations.

[Quadzilla99]

I was impressed because i've used a lot of pre workouts and even with the DMAA ban, Enhanced outperformed them. Vascularity is about as sickening as it gets, muscles have a clean tight feeling

I took it too and I got this feeling like my muscles were becoming tight and filling up with air. and it's really tight - it's like somebody blowing air into it, into your muscle. It was as satisfying as being with a woman and cumming to me honestly.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Did you not see my clever labelling comment?

They've got parenthesis around the arginine nitrate and the pine bark, so it's:

(Creatine mono, Creatine anhydrous), (Arginine Nitrate, Pine Bark), (Beta Alanine)

Hmm, this is the label I'm looking at:



Edit: You're right, eyes glazed over it

[Mr.Cooper69]

I took it too and I got this feeling like my muscles were becoming tight and filling up with air. and it's really tight - it's like somebody blowing air into it, into your muscle. It was as satisfying as being with a woman and cumming to me honestly.

Cumming day and night bro

[Quadzilla99]

Cumming day and night bro

When I'm backstage, when I'm pumping up, all the time...people give me funny looks when they see me making my oh face at the grocery store but I don't care

[HulkImHuge]

3 Grams CIT MAL
1.6 Grams BA
1.5 Grams Arginine Nitrate ( Or other nitrate )
500mg Agmatine
150mg Norvaline
Vit-C
Vit-B

STIM BLEND
L-Tyrosine,Caffeine Anhydrous,Dendrobium Extract


IS THIS REALLY THAT HARD TO DO?