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    Overeem looking smaller??

    pics dont work but it's in his latest tweet on his twitter
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    not surprised after his 'dangerously low' testosterone levels after his last fight
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    Not shocking a drug tested athlete will look smaller then when you can take anything you want overseas especially since a failed test cost him a lot of money




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    He's always had a odd physique in the sense that from a head on shot, he looks much bigger than at an angle/side shot.

    Yes, we all know he got popped, but even before he was there were pictures out there people were tossing up saying he looked "smaller".
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    Originally Posted by cgc View Post
    He's always had a odd physique in the sense that from a head on shot, he looks much bigger than at an angle/side shot.

    Yes, we all know he got popped, but even before he was there were pictures out there people were tossing up saying he looked "smaller".
    I never heard that until he fought in the states honestly

    In k-1 he was ****ing massive like the biggest I've ever seen a hw fighter

    Though to be fair you don't need as much mass in mma compared to k-1 where you can get away with it more. He was also training with some of the best strongman in holland who were probably helping him with 'mass supps' I think he was looking to get huge to overpower semmy shilt who beat guys with his size mostly and is a giant.

    I think he realizes now that all that mass is kind of useless for mma if you gas out in a round. Lets be real huge muscular fighters don't do well in mma so I think he made the decision to lose some mass + cant deny the testing and the pop influenced the decline. They all contributed to it.
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    I never heard that until he fought in the states honestly

    In k-1 he was ****ing massive like the biggest I've ever seen a hw fighter

    Though to be fair you don't need as much mass in mma compared to k-1 where you can get away with it more. He was also training with some of the best strongman in holland who were probably helping him with 'mass supps' I think he was looking to get huge to overpower semmy shilt who beat guys with his size mostly and is a giant.

    I think he realizes now that all that mass is kind of useless for mma if you gas out in a round. Lets be real huge muscular fighters don't do well in mma so I think he made the decision to lose some mass + cant deny the testing and the pop influenced the decline. They all contributed to it.
    Common misconception. The Lighting they use in k1 made him look that way.
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    I never heard that until he fought in the states honestly

    In k-1 he was ****ing massive like the biggest I've ever seen a hw fighter

    Though to be fair you don't need as much mass in mma compared to k-1 where you can get away with it more. He was also training with some of the best strongman in holland who were probably helping him with 'mass supps' I think he was looking to get huge to overpower semmy shilt who beat guys with his size mostly and is a giant.

    I think he realizes now that all that mass is kind of useless for mma if you gas out in a round. Lets be real huge muscular fighters don't do well in mma so I think he made the decision to lose some mass + cant deny the testing and the pop influenced the decline. They all contributed to it.
    more like they don't test overseas in k-1 and they do in the states/ufc
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    I never heard that until he fought in the states honestly.
    There was a pretty long winded discussion in here before Overeem got popped. Someone posted a picture of him at the filming of that LMAFO video. It was a side angle shot and he looked "small"....but then you could find other shots (believe I posted some) from about the same time, where he still looked bigger.
    Without question his physique looks different (not nearly as defined)....but it's not like he's walking around looking like he did cutting down to MW in PRIDE (205lbs)

    Originally Posted by Beastman09 View Post
    Common misconception. The Lighting they use in k1 made him look that way.
    Not what I was implying at all.
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    For years there's been photos of 'OMG OVEREEM IS LOOKING SMALL NOW!'. He's probably lost some size, but I guarantee he'll be back on the juice and he'll be evading tests like an olympian soon. I'm actually surprised that he tested positive, he was probably so use to the untested shows and didn't put much thought into getting the good **** that doesn't register.
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    i liked the way 240 pound overeem fought, he was quicker.
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    I can't wait for Travis Browne to destroy him.

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    Originally Posted by LAWLER89 View Post
    As much as I think Overeem should beat Browne, if he comes in there with his hands down like he did with Bigfoot....it's not going to end well at all.
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    If Overeem is smaller then it is designed for performance. You folks who somehow think drug testing is the reason for him potentially shrinking are oblivious. Drug testing does not curb PED use. ESPECIALLY the drug testing that is used by State athletic commissions. Even on the Olympic level these guys are barely curbed and they have random testing with dudes showing up at their vacation house at 7am asking for a piss test. Drug testing just makes the athletes more careful and disciplined in their protocol. Most use Gurus such as this Angel Heredia aka Angel Hernandez(guy from the BALCO scandal) that the top boxers and even the Jamaican Track and Field Athletes use. If Overeem is smaller it is due to him consciously making the decision to drop his body weight, not some phony drug testing protocol that is in place to just to make the fans and retarded media feel better.
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    Imagine what happens when he gets on that trt exemption.
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    Originally Posted by ProEra View Post
    i liked the way 240 pound overeem fought, he was quicker.
    I totally agree

    All that muscle looks pretty but its useless in mma

    He needs to get back that speed he had and he can dominate in the HW division =
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    If Overeem is smaller then it is designed for performance. You folks who somehow think drug testing is the reason for him potentially shrinking are oblivious. Drug testing does not curb PED use. ESPECIALLY the drug testing that is used by State athletic commissions. Even on the Olympic level these guys are barely curbed and they have random testing with dudes showing up at their vacation house at 7am asking for a piss test. Drug testing just makes the athletes more careful and disciplined in their protocol. Most use Gurus such as this Angel Heredia aka Angel Hernandez(guy from the BALCO scandal) that the top boxers and even the Jamaican Track and Field Athletes use. If Overeem is smaller it is due to him consciously making the decision to drop his body weight, not some phony drug testing protocol that is in place to just to make the fans and retarded media feel better.
    Uh team like jamaican has a government run testing program and they are NEVER given random tests outside of the one time they are tested at the olympics so its easy to get clean by then. Every sport at the olympics and country does it differently for example olympic weightlifting in the states is extremely anal and tests randomly a lot unlike other countries which hurts are performance in that sport. China also does government run programs for a lot of the sports. The balco guy talks out of his ass for the most part and is bitter since he is irrelevant now

    Drug talk is banned on this site anyways

    Point is he better get smaller to improve his cardio/speed or he is going to be fired pretty soon
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    Uh team like jamaican has a government run testing program and they are NEVER given random tests outside of the one time they are tested at the olympics so its easy to get clean by then. Every sport at the olympics and country does it differently for example olympic weightlifting in the states is extremely anal and tests randomly a lot unlike other countries which hurts are performance in that sport. China also does government run programs for a lot of the sports. The balco guy talks out of his ass for the most part and is bitter since he is irrelevant now

    Drug talk is banned on this site anyways

    Point is he better get smaller to improve his cardio/speed or he is going to be fired pretty soon

    The Thread is about Overeem who has been caught cheating. Rules suspended IMO... unless it is banter of the useless nature such as repeated fallacies that just further the nonsense out there.

    There is more then one BALCO guy out there. You have Patrick Arnold who technically created the entire scandal by providing the substance to Victor Conte who reformulated it and provided it to multiple athletes. Then you have Angel Heredia who was involved as well. He went ahead and changed his name and continues to this day working with Top Athletes, and was even caught working with the Jamaicans. Victor Conte is now a strong proponent of stricter drug testing, which seems to piss off the PED crowd.

    The truth about drugs in sports is not what the media writes about. PED's create the top athletes in the World. Most just believe what USA Today tells them. It is accurate to suggest that in many sports that you simply cannot be the best without the proper PED protocol.
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    Originally Posted by yummy22 View Post
    Uh team like jamaican has a government run testing program and they are NEVER given random tests outside of the one time they are tested at the olympics so its easy to get clean by then. Every sport at the olympics and country does it differently for example olympic weightlifting in the states is extremely anal and tests randomly a lot unlike other countries which hurts are performance in that sport. China also does government run programs for a lot of the sports. The balco guy talks out of his ass for the most part and is bitter since he is irrelevant now

    Drug talk is banned on this site anyways

    Point is he better get smaller to improve his cardio/speed or he is going to be fired pretty soon
    Check out the Joe Rogan Podcast with Victor Conte from a earlier this year I believe. I think its on youtube. Very entertaining and informative. He delves into everything in detail.
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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    The Thread is about Overeem who has been caught cheating. Rules suspended IMO...
    Overeem being popped and discussion surrounding that is relevant....but rules are not suspended, so please watch what's discussed.

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    Originally Posted by hfce354 View Post
    If Overeem is smaller then it is designed for performance. You folks who somehow think drug testing is the reason for him potentially shrinking are oblivious. Drug testing does not curb PED use. ESPECIALLY the drug testing that is used by State athletic commissions. Even on the Olympic level these guys are barely curbed and they have random testing with dudes showing up at their vacation house at 7am asking for a piss test. Drug testing just makes the athletes more careful and disciplined in their protocol. Most use Gurus such as this Angel Heredia aka Angel Hernandez(guy from the BALCO scandal) that the top boxers and even the Jamaican Track and Field Athletes use. If Overeem is smaller it is due to him consciously making the decision to drop his body weight, not some phony drug testing protocol that is in place to just to make the fans and retarded media feel better.

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    But I believe that Overeem should drop weight, he looked absolutely massive against Lesnar but far less explosive when he was around 240-255. In my opinion his best performance was agaisnt Rogers, he was untouchable that night.
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