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    Who is right Kali muscle or CT fletcher?

    Kali says you should only train a muscle once a week


    and CT says there is no such thing as over training...
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    without even watching the videos im just gonna say CT out of the two. but thats just based on having to pick in this instance
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    Without watching, CT is right.
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    any pro athlete or pro bodybuilder puts in like 5 hours a day in the gym. it is extremely tough for a regular average joe to overtrain, unless he is like getting drunk every night and sleeping 4 hours and then trying to lift, because obviously it's tough to recover. but if you get a good nights sleep, have adequate nutrition, then it is hard to overtrain. this isn't to say that it would be beneficial to workout the same body part 7 days a week, but it's not unreasonable to hit something 3-4 times a week with 1-2 days in between each.
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    Listening to juicers when natty, not even once. Having said that, frequency is extremely important if you are natty.
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    Their advice doesn't matter unless you're on a boatload of drugs like they are
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    Kali muscle is all bull ****. Brb 15-20 reps for all lifts as a natty
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    A natural can easily train a muscle multiple times a week. Kali is probably on enough cell tech to turn a small village into Zyzz replicas, so if he actually trains muscles once a week he is wasting some good juice.
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    If your on juice y, you can adapt CTs BS of an opinion. CTs a fukin idiot.
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    Originally Posted by samscar View Post
    Kali muscle is all bull ****. Brb 15-20 reps for all lifts as a natty
    Tuna spreads, ramen and hyph mud. Lmao. To think people actually fall for that crap.
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    As a natty, why would you take advice from 2 people that are juiced out their heads and both claim natural (i know ct does).
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    unless you juice, disregard.
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    Frequency is better. I saw Kali muscle's video yesterday and I was shaking my head throughout. His advice is bullchit!
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    ct is a dumb fuk for saying there is no such thing as overtraining. maybe if youre on the juice...
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    It's easy to say that when one is artificially enhanced. In any case I follow CT Fletcher's opinion. The "once a week" stuff is just an excuse to be lazy. When I start lifting seriously I never take a rest day (except for a fever), even on weekends.

    Yes, there is no such thing as overtraining.
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    Lawd.
    Kali Muscle says he is natty and believes in "Clean diet, no protein shake, protein shake is bad for you"
    CT Fletcher says he is natty and doesn't believe in overtraining.

    Both are as retarded as each other.
    That being said, I think it's extremely hard to 'overtrain' and most people use 'overtraining' as an excuse to take a few days off or lose intensity.
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    I say CT is right, I barely made any gains training muscle grounds once a work, but made a lot more training them multiple times. Of course, it maybe the opposite for someone else.
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    Cannot comprehend how these Behemoths even claim natty.
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    Originally Posted by RealityKings View Post
    Lawd.
    Kali Muscle says he is natty and believes in "Clean diet, no protein shake, protein shake is bad for you"
    CT Fletcher says he is natty and doesn't believe in overtraining.

    Both are as retarded as each other.
    That being said, I think it's extremely hard to 'overtrain' and most people use 'overtraining' as an excuse to take a few days off or lose intensity.
    Overtraining is a function of not recovering properly for weeks on end continuously. Symptom of poor programming. Over time most people can increase their work load to immense levels. Frequency is extremely important for natties.
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    guys they're both natty

























































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    Originally Posted by shroomed View Post
    guys they're both natty

    How can they even claim this without ****ing laughing
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    Originally Posted by shoelaces View Post
    Listening to juicers when natty, not even once. Having said that, frequency is extremely important if you are natty.
    pretty much this.

    if natty, trainig a muscle once per week is sub optimal. not gonna say you wont get gains but hitting the muscle twice a week is superior imo. Again this is to do with elevated muscle protein synthesis for only few days after training natty
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    Originally Posted by shoelaces View Post
    Listening to juicers when natty, not even once. Having said that, frequency is extremely important if you are natty.
    Not true at all. Both ways can be effective if done correctly.
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    once a week is only effective for complete newbies and advanced lifters

    for everyone else, you'll need to hit each muscle group at least twice a week to make any kind of gains.
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    Depends on intensity and type of exercise.

    You'll notice Westside has a 2x frequency (ME lower, DE lower, etc.) because they hit the muscle groups extremely hard on ME days, to the point where all surrounding muscle groups have to contribute. The DE days are akin to recovery days. I wouldn't recommend training like this unless you're a genetic freak. 5/3/1 hits everything once also, and it assumes you go all out on the last set. Both of these focus on compounds so once a week makes sense.

    Meanwhile, on the bodybuilding side of things you have high reps and isolation. That's much easier to recover from. I'm pretty sure curling 35 pounds 20 times taxes your spine, joints, tendons, muscles and lungs a lot less than squatting 450.

    I found my favorite way to train is to hit a muscle group once with volume and once with intensity (powerbuilding style). It can be same day or different day. For example, I might have a "Chest Day" where I'd do Bench press 5/3/1, and then some incline press with higher weights. Then later on in the week I'd do a "arms" day dips for 15-20 reps which also hit chest, but focus mostly on triceps. Same for back - go heavier on basic boring barbell rows, and then go close-grip lat pull downs for sets of 12-20 on "bicep" day. This is also the principle in the Texas Method (1 volume day, 1 optional recovery day, 1 intensity day).

    Truth be told though, once your compounds get heavy enough, you're working your whole body in every lift. I think this is an issue I see here, lots of good looking 165 pound guys who can't squat 2 plates. Trust me when you squat 350, your abs, butt, quads, shoulder girdle, lower back, traps, etc. are all working damn hard.
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