LOL @ people that think doctors are smart. Engineers > doctors

[sliceofbread]

so tell me what else med students do besides memorize. oh wait you can't because that's all they do. you don't have to be smart to memorize stuff. kindergarteners can memorize the alphabet. medical students just sacrifice years of their life to MEMORIZE STUFF. THAT'S NOT INTELLIGENCE.

These are some pretty bold assertions from someone who obviously has no actual experience with what medical school is rly about...

[DiseasedScrotum]

This has been posted before, but worth a post in every retarded thread like this.

LOL engineers can't even beat lawyers

What a joke.

[Lightsout13]

Mid levels aren't utilized in all facilities. In fact, a majority don't use them. When they are utilized, it's for efficiency. Very few times are they used for he doc to be lazy. Do you realize how many people actually dont need to see a doctor that come to see the doctor or need something minor that a PA can handle?

I actually know several people who go to the doctor out of pure paranoia and even go for things like cuts and bruises that a first aid kit can handle. (SRS)

[SOPA]

Physicists easily trumps both. But I agree that in general engineers > doctors. Still, that isn't saying much seeing as most engineers struggle with Maxwell's equations of electrodynamics (without the electromagnetic tensor to complicate things), can't handle a lagrangian or hamiltonian, and wouldn't recognize Schrodinger's equation or Einstein's field equations which form the basis of modern physics (quantum mechanics and general relativity).

Inb4 some idiot says mathematician > physicist, despite the fact the top differential geometers and topologists are still trying to understand and research the mathematical implications of general relativity.

[Lightsout13]

LOL engineers can't even beat lawyers

What a joke.

you obviously didn't see the electrical engineers.

[whatbrah]

Physicists easily trumps both. But I agree that in general engineers > doctors. Still, that isn't saying much seeing as most engineers struggle with Maxwell's equations of electrodynamics (without the electromagnetic tensor to complicate things), can't handle a lagrangian or hamiltonian, and wouldn't recognize Schrodinger's equation or Einstein's field equations which form the basis of modern physics (quantum mechanics and general relativity).

Inb4 some idiot says mathematician > physicist, despite the fact the top differential geometers and topologists are still trying to understand and research the mathematical implications of general relativity.

You're pretty stupid. Some people say Poincare, a mathematician, had thought about relativity first before Einstein... Mathematics can exist without Physics. Can Physics exist without Math? Pls go.

[DiseasedScrotum]

you obviously didn't see the electrical engineers.

Still didn't beat them. There are more dumb ones than lawyers.

Like seriously. Not even lawyers? I've met lawyers, they play with poop if you let them.

This thread is embarrassing. Pack it up.

[coals]

Doctors are smart, they picked the job that pays 5x better

[sliceofbread]

Physicists easily trumps both. But I agree that in general engineers > doctors. Still, that isn't saying much seeing as most engineers struggle with Maxwell's equations of electrodynamics (without the electromagnetic tensor to complicate things), can't handle a lagrangian or hamiltonian, and wouldn't recognize Schrodinger's equation or Einstein's field equations which form the basis of modern physics (quantum mechanics and general relativity).

Inb4 some idiot says mathematician > physicist, despite the fact the top differential geometers and topologists are still trying to understand and research the mathematical implications of general relativity.

I really wish I did physics in undergrad instead of engineering. I've gotten half way through my quantum physics for dummies book and I'm quite enjoying it.

[msab]

you know what medical school is? it's just a bunch of memorization. doctors aren't smart. they're just the people willing to not have a life for a few years and sit down and just memorize stuff. then when a patient walks in with symptoms they just go back into their memory to come up with the solution. that's not intelligence. that's just someone sacrificing their social life for a few years to memorize facts.

engineers are the intelligent people that use critical thinking to make new designs.

truth.

how did you come to these conclusions? who told you this stuff? or are you just another bitter engineer upset over low monetary upside of engineering as well as having to deal with all the engineer autists and the 1:0 guy:girl ratio in your field of study?


answer me you *******

[Driftslut]

Engineers are just learning formulas mathematicians created

[SOPA]

You're pretty stupid. Some people say Poincare, a mathematician, had thought about relativity first before Einstein... Mathematics can exist without Physics. Can Physics exist without Math? Pls go.

There's no evidence of that, and let's not forget: the fathers of modern mathematics (Newton, Euler, Gauss, etc) were physicists and not exactly doing math for the sake of math (as do most mathematicians). The language of physics is mathematics, but most math these days has absolutely zero application in physics, other than topology, differential geometry, and group theory. Funny thing about the people working in these fields is that they are almost always mathematical physicists.

Also, one can build entirely mathematically consistent models of nature that are just not consistent with reality and experiment at all. And where does math without the insight of experiment and reality lead to? String theory, which is considered by many notable people to be a dud. Math is simply a language to express physical laws, not something that can be used to lead to new insights. You can't even derive Newton's equations of motion from pure mathematics. You can't even prove quantum electrodynamics rigorously from a mathematician's point of view, yet it is one of the most successful models of reality ever conceived.

[Canadian_Lifter]

The doctors I know with engineering backgrounds are some of the smartest people you'd ever meet.

Source: ChE in med school

[HighHurdler]

Still didn't beat them. There are more dumb ones than lawyers.

Like seriously. Not even lawyers? I've met lawyers, they play with poop if you let them.

This thread is embarrassing. Pack it up.

lol this. lawyers aren't smart either.

[HighHurdler]

The doctors I know with engineering backgrounds are some of the smartest people you'd ever meet.

hmm i wonder why. lol med school students are so mad because they know it's true.

[whatbrah]

There's no evidence of that, and let's not forget: the fathers of modern mathematics (Newton, Euler, Gauss, etc) were physicists and not exactly doing math for the sake of math (as do most mathematicians). The language of physics is mathematics, but most math these days has absolutely zero application in physics, other than topology, differential geometry, and group theory. Funny thing about the people working in these fields is that they are almost always mathematical physicists.

Also, one can build entirely mathematically consistent models of nature that are just not consistent with reality and experiment at all. And where does math without the insight of experiment and reality lead to? String theory, which is considered by many notable people to be a dud. Math is simply a language to express physical laws, not something that can be used to lead to new insights. You can't even derive Newton's equations of motion from pure mathematics. You can't even prove quantum electrodynamics rigorously from a mathematician's point of view, yet it is one of the most successful models of reality ever conceived.

Stop trying to make it seem that Mathematics has to be applied. Mathematicians do Mathematics for the reason of doing mathematics. They don't care about your physics problems, they leave that to physicists. Also, Euler and Newton are not the fathers of modern mathematics, they created Calculus, but Calculus is a small part of math. Poincare, Riemann, Klein, and Hilbert are the father of modern math... Mathematics is the highest level of logic one can get. It is the purest science. Physics is amazing, but saying it's harder than Math... no.

[HighHurdler]

These are some pretty bold assertions from someone who obviously has no actual experience with what medical school is rly about...

lol see? i asked you to tell me what else med students do besides memorize and you can't tell me so you said some lame excuse to try to belittle me. truth is you can't answer the question i asked because there's no other answer. you know med students just memorize. that's all they do.

[DiseasedScrotum]

lol this. lawyers aren't smart either.

You know I'm making fun of your thread right? I'm not agreeing with you.

Doctors > Engineers. Even Lawyers > Engineers

I should neg you for not even understanding the point. I swear fukin *******.

[SOPA]

It is the purest science.

Sorry, math is not a science. Science is by definition the dynamic interplay between theory and experiment. In math, there is no such thing as an "experiment".

Ergo, physics is the purest of sciences.

[ThoughtRiot]

Why is it that so many engineers on the internet are so insecure and need to constantly try to drag down everyone else's major/profession?

[Hardlifter9]

the only reason doctors are scarce is because not everyone is willing to spend all that time with no social life and memorizing a bunch of facts. it doesn't take a genius to be a doctor. just someone that is willing to sit down for years and years memorizing shiit from a textbook.

negged for failing to realize that there's extreme competition to get into med school

brb 3.8 gpa
brb 32 mcat score
brb all around excellence in your ECs

brb rejected

you're a ******* OP. becoming an engineer does not take as much talent as does becoming a doctor... you're forgetting that getting a high gpa/high mcat score while doing lots of ECs is a task which requires a high level of intelligence.

[HighHurdler]

Why is it that so many engineers on the internet are so insecure and need to constantly try to drag down everyone else's major/profession?

i'm not dragging doctors down. they're not dumb. but the general public thinks doctors are as smart as they get and it's lulzy.

[whatbrah]

lol see? i asked you to tell me what else med students do besides memorize and you can't tell me so you said some lame excuse to try to belittle me. truth is you can't answer the question i asked because there's no other answer. you know med students just memorize. that's all they do.

I bet you couldn't hack it in General Chemistry. Pls go you *******. You have a gpa of 2.8 from some state school and are passing engineering classes with C's. Not something to boast about.

[dweeegs]

Also, engineers are using formulas that they themselves didn't create, if anything you should be saying Pure Mathematicians > Doctors

My fluids and heat and mass course would like a word with you

Also why are we comparing a BS in engineering to a doctor when there's a huge discrepancy in the amount of schooling? Why not compare a PhD in ChemE to a doctor?

[sliceofbread]

lol see? i asked you to tell me what else med students do besides memorize and you can't tell me so you said some lame excuse to try to belittle me. truth is you can't answer the question i asked because there's no other answer. you know med students just memorize. that's all they do.

You obviously didn't read my other post. Medical school is all about using knowledge in application to a new situation/problem. Honestly it's the same as engineering except with no math, and IMO it is more subtle. They also expect a lot more out of you because there aren't a bunch of derptards to make you look good like in engineering...

Like another poster said, unless you're going somewhere like MIT, simply being an engineer is far from impressive

[Canadian_Lifter]

What's with all the doctor hate in this thread? Engineers are good at what they do, doctors are good at what they do...

Medicine isn't math based so of course there's a lot of memorization but there's a great deal of problem solving.

Both professions deserve tremendous respect

[DiseasedScrotum]

What's with all the doctor hate in this thread? Engineers are good at what they do, doctors are good at what they do...

Medicine isn't math based so of course there's a lot of memorization but there's a great deal of problem solving.

Both professions deserve tremendous respect

Oh look, someone trying to be all reasonable. Stop showing off.

[Myostatin2]

lol see? i asked you to tell me what else med students do besides memorize and you can't tell me so you said some lame excuse to try to belittle me. truth is you can't answer the question i asked because there's no other answer. you know med students just memorize. that's all they do.

Yea prolly year 1 and year 2 is mostly memorization. But if you think any doofus can walk in med school and memorize the same massive amount of materials in a short amount of time week in and week out, then you r deluded. You still have to understand concepts to learn science tho. Afterward, you need critical thinking skills to solve problem. U think all patients and surgical cases are exactly the same? Everyone got a different body, it is not always straightforward...

[NecessaryMind]

I know some engineers that are fukin idiots. Lots of engineers just barely scrape through an engineering and work as engineers.

One thing for sure though is that OP is a whiny lil bitch with sand in his vag. No doubt about that.

[HighHurdler]

I bet you couldn't hack it in General Chemistry. Pls go you *******. You have a gpa of 2.8 from some state school and are passing engineering classes with C's. Not something to boast about.

lol if that's what you wanna think then fine. i don't need to prove myself to a peasant.