Is Simeon Panda natty? (vid)

[thebencher900lb]

Or just good genetics





http://youtu.be/Wn_CUeLm2Nc

I mean this guy is fuarkin huge. I say he using dat dere cell tech

[MasterBrologist]

Highly doubt he's natty. He looks to be juiceing .

[barny35]

that's completely possible natural. I've seen guys twice his size that haven't touched a drug.

[bradroepke]

he's 6'1, 230 5% bodyfat.

something doesn't add up.

[thebencher900lb]

that's completely possible natural. I've seen guys twice his size that haven't touched a drug.

Couldn't upload pics cause I'm on my mobile, but recent pictures really show he cell tech.

[MuscleMigraine]

Either way he's a ****ing boss

[bradroepke]

that's completely possible natural. I've seen guys twice his size that haven't touched a drug.

LOL no you haven't.

no...

[big78]

PANDAmonium

[LiftCore]

Not a chance in hell.

[JaredPunch]

There's a formula I read on an article by Lyle Mcdonald to determine maximum LBM one can build in a lifetime and so far no natty champion has exceeded the results:
(Your Height in Inches -70) x 5 + 165
So (73 - 70 ) x 5 + 165 = 180
Say he had 15lbs of fat, he would weigh 195-200 at 7% body fat.
The formula is quite accurate imo: Reg Park was 6.1 and 210 lbs at 8% body fat
There's no way a natural athlete can be 230 at 5% body fat.

[NitroStigs]

that's completely possible natural. I've seen guys twice his size that haven't touched a drug.

Hahahahaha ha ha hahahahaha hahahaghaajahahja


No you haven't. You up in the business 24/7? If not, then how do you know? Oh let me guess, they told you they didn't.

[NZninja101]

Either way he's a ****ing boss

Not really. He glorifies being natural when he isn't. He doesn't just deny it because of it being illegal and getting supplement sponserships, he actively glorifies being something he isn't. Which is a really scummy thing to do.

[MVHagey]

There's a formula I read on an article by Lyle Mcdonald to determine maximum LBM one can build in a lifetime and so far no natty champion has exceeded the results:
(Your Height in Inches -70) x 5 + 165
So (73 - 70 ) x 5 + 165 = 180
Say he had 15lbs of fat, he would weigh 195-200 at 7% body fat.
The formula is quite accurate imo: Reg Park was 6.1 and 210 lbs at 8% body fat
There's no way a natural athlete can be 230 at 5% body fat.

You have to be over 5'10" for that formula to even work...

[Meadey]

You have to be over 5'10" for that formula to even work...

you scared of negative numbers bro?

[FeelTheFear]

he's about as natural as naturalgraham

[JaredPunch]

You have to be over 5'10" for that formula to even work...

why? 68 - 70 = -2
-2 x 5 = -10
-10 + 165 = 155
Say one has 10lbs of body fat the result would be: 5'8" 165 lbs and 6% body fat
Again pretty spot on: Dave Goodin is a drug-tested natural bodybuilder, 5'8" and 170 lbs on contest (5-10lbs more or less accounts for difference in bone size)

[MrB1g]

Does he have a financial incentive to remain in peak physical condition? Yes.

Does he have any reason not to take performance enhancing drugs? No.

That's a tough one...

why? 68 - 70 = -2
-2 x 5 = -10
-10 + 165 = 155
Say one has 10lbs of body fat the result would be: 5'8" 165 lbs and 6% body fat
Again pretty spot on: Dave Goodin is a drug-tested natural bodybuilder, 5'8" and 170 lbs on contest (5-10lbs more or less accounts for difference in bone size)

The Olympics are also drug tested - I wonder how many people would claim that is a 'clean' competition just because people get past the tests. Or even look at the Tour de France...

[Gymrat2000]

No way he's natty. Must have done a few cycles back then and now claims "natty"

edit: in after mrB1g

[JaredPunch]

Does he have a financial incentive to remain in peak physical condition? Yes.

Does he have any reason not to take performance enhancing drugs? No.

That's a tough one...



The Olympics are also drug tested - I wonder how many people would claim that is a 'clean' competition just because people get past the tests. Or even look at the Tour de France...

true but then, wouldn't make it sense to become bigger and push well beyond normal limits if you're using drugs anyway?

[MrB1g]

true but then, wouldn't make it sense to become bigger and push well beyond normal limits if you're using drugs anyway?

Doesn't that depend on the goals of the individual? There are plenty of people who juice but have no desire to reach IFBB status.

I have no idea about the bodybuilder you mentioned but I just don't place much store in drug testing.

[adrosan]

that's completely possible natural. I've seen guys twice his size that haven't touched a drug.

hahahha, you made my day, dude!

[tinytim1]

Why does anyone care about this stuff? How does it affect your life if he isnt natty

[Krikker]

OP why would you care if he is natty or not? just eat and lift brah

[the5thhorseman]

He's natty, along with Jeff Seid, Layne Norton, Jim Cordova, Jeff Willett (not srs)

[iHeartless]

He's natty, along with Jeff Seid, Layne Norton, Jim Cordova, Jeff Willett (not srs)

this

[barny35]

lol you people arefreaking stupid.you think just because somebody is big, that they are on steroids. You just use the excuse of steroids to make yourself feel better that you aren't that big. Try working your butt off for a few years and prove to yourself that it can be done. Quit blaming the results of every ripped mofo out there on drugs. I'm not saying he is or isn't. There's a chance he is. But it's possible without them. They don't magically make you huge and cut as hell. Steroids simply increase the hormones enough to add on that extra mass you get from working your *** off in the gym. quit being so freaking ignorant!

[Agabekov]

1) Natty in my ass
2) King of BBCs

[PYOOnGDOOnG]

There's a formula I read on an article by Lyle Mcdonald to determine maximum LBM one can build in a lifetime and so far no natty champion has exceeded the results:
(Your Height in Inches -70) x 5 + 165
So (73 - 70 ) x 5 + 165 = 180
Say he had 15lbs of fat, he would weigh 195-200 at 7% body fat.
The formula is quite accurate imo: Reg Park was 6.1 and 210 lbs at 8% body fat
There's no way a natural athlete can be 230 at 5% body fat.

Lol, that is no where near accurate. On the basis that it's completely illogical. It makes no reference to the difference in body compositiona.

Let me brief you:

A person's genetic potential is predetermined by the amount of muscle fibres an individual has. Each muscle fibre can only grow up to a maximum diameter of 100 microns. Cell tech increases the diameter to close or to 100 microns (whereas they might have been at 75 microns maximum natty). What separates Ronnie Coleman's genetics from you and me is the sheer number of muscle fibres he has. This is also why a blanket formula like this is impossible. If Ronnie Coleman stayed natty, he would end up chitloads bigger than an ecto like, for example, Zyzz would have if he was natty, didn't die and maxed his natty potential.

A formula like this is therefore unreliable to the point of being laughable, as it cannot possibly account for the whole population (or anywhere close to it).

[NoNeedlesGuy]

I think he's natty. His legs would be more massive if he weren't.

[JaredPunch]

Lol, that is no where near accurate. On the basis that it's completely illogical. It makes no reference to the difference in body compositiona.

A formula like this is therefore unreliable to the point of being laughable, as it cannot possibly account for the whole population (or anywhere close to it).

still no bodybuilding champion on earth has ever exceeded the math of that formula, this says a lot about whether such mythological "genetically gifted" individuals that would become huge even without riding a bike exist at all.