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    Limiting vegetables to stay in ketosis?

    I really love vegetables and I hate having to limit the amount of spinach, broccoli, lettuce, celery and other low carb vegetables that I eat. Can veggies really take you out of ketosis if lets say i consume like 25 carbs from them per day? I havn't been doing this but I am just wondering since vegetables have a very low gi.
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    make sure you're subtracting fiber from the carbs, also I wish I loved veggies they are groce
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    Honestly, I have never eaten this much vegetables until I started doing keto. Some veggies are more sugary, and you will have to stay away from those, otherwise they are ok. The way I do keto, basically on a plate there are vegetables where there used to be carbs, like pasta or barley or whatnot, replaced with spinach and kale.
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    Just make sure you're dumping lots of butter on them!
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    Butter and hot sauce!
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    I take a couple of tablespoons of Spirulina Plantesis, rather than eat vegetables.
    It's a photosynthesizing cyanobacteria with a high 'nutrient to weight' ratio and very few carbs.
    Easy to measure. Difficult to over eat because it isn't a tempting choice. Taste like jumping into a swamp with your mouth open.
    I hate it...but I love it. Mostly just love it. Mostly because I hate it.
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    Originally Posted by weiss1967 View Post
    Honestly, I have never eaten this much vegetables until I started doing keto. Some veggies are more sugary, and you will have to stay away from those, otherwise they are ok. The way I do keto, basically on a plate there are vegetables where there used to be carbs, like pasta or barley or whatnot, replaced with spinach and kale.
    But even like 1/6 of a head of cauliflower is 6 carbs, subtracting fiber. It really adds up if you eat a lot of veggies, I could so easily go over 20 grams.
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    Originally Posted by Katie4004 View Post
    I really love vegetables and I hate having to limit the amount of spinach, broccoli, lettuce, celery and other low carb vegetables that I eat. Can veggies really take you out of ketosis if lets say i consume like 25 carbs from them per day? I havn't been doing this but I am just wondering since vegetables have a very low gi.
    You probably speak for everyone here. We all have to make sacrifices to accomplish our fitness objectives. If I could pour bbq sauce all over everything and still be noticeably ripped, I'd be all over it. Welcome to keto. It is an evolutionary trait which was achieved by force of hunger and deprivation, so that we could survive. It is a gift bestowed upon us by our ancestors. It is to be respected. If you wish to use this tool to your advantage, you must endure brief glimpses into the past experience of your gene pool. You are essentially activating a dorment genetic expression. We unlock this ability with the same key now as we did back then. Endure. Get your mind right and everything else is automatic.

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    Survive! What endurance or scrifices are you talking about. Keto is about the most natural diet, probably the tastiest diet and probably most forgiving in terms of results/effort. Stick of celery and half a tomato will not kick anybody out of ketosys. Roast them in cocnut oil and add a bavarian sausage. Mmmm. Pile of green salad, coupled with fatty chunk of pork chop, what can be better? Or fat-dripping BBQ chicken, who else has a luxury of eating like this and dropping weight in the same time? We traded sticky buns and pasta (and who miss this stuff anyway?) for real food. I can see the whole world going into permanent ketosys one day.
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    Originally Posted by weiss1967 View Post
    Survive! What endurance or scrifices are you talking about. Keto is about the most natural diet, probably the tastiest diet and probably most forgiving in terms of results/effort.
    You could be right. However, the ability to store fat could very well have been evolutionary to begin with. I subscribe to this theory.
    For a venomous serpent to have fangs is natural but did a serpent always have venom and fangs?
    The perceived nature of a thing relies heavily on how far back you look. Did bacteria store glycogen at it's inception?
    I honestly don't know but I like a good hype story. With all due respect to your viewpoint.
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    Can we put a gag on Survives account? Theres no point reading the idiotic things they say. Worst troller Ive seen.
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    Originally Posted by Katie4004 View Post
    But even like 1/6 of a head of cauliflower is 6 carbs, subtracting fiber. It really adds up if you eat a lot of veggies, I could so easily go over 20 grams.
    Cauliflower is not as good as some other choices... but even so, like I said... just add tons of butter.
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    Originally Posted by DustyChicago View Post
    Cauliflower is not as good as some other choices... but even so, like I said... just add tons of butter.
    The thing is, I can only eat like 1350 calories per day to lose about .75 pounds a week. (I am really petite) This diet is difficult for me because I am hungry all the time. I need to eat less calorie dense foods which unfortunately isn't what this diet is all about.
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    Popeye spinach! 6 carbs-6 fiber= 0. I really do eat a can a day haha
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    Originally Posted by Doug55 View Post
    Popeye spinach! 6 carbs-6 fiber= 0. I really do eat a can a day haha
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    Originally Posted by Katie4004 View Post
    I really love vegetables and I hate having to limit the amount of spinach, broccoli, lettuce, celery and other low carb vegetables that I eat. Can veggies really take you out of ketosis if lets say i consume like 25 carbs from them per day? I havn't been doing this but I am just wondering since vegetables have a very low gi.
    Spinach: 1 10oz package has 4 gr of carbs after fiber is removed. You could eat 5 of those a day and have room for more food.

    Broccoli Flowerets: 10 cups has 28 gr of carbs after fiber is removed.

    Lettuce (Iceberg): 1 head (539gr) has 11 gr of carbs after fiber is removed.

    Celery: 1 lb (pound!) has 6 gr of carbs after fiber is removed.


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    To keep calories low, instead of butter I like to steam then, light seasoning and maybe throw some hot sauce around.
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    Not the kind I eat. Even the del Monte spinach is 4 carbs with 4 fiber
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    From all that I have read, you only need to keep your carbs to 20 or less during induction. After that most people can eat up to 50 per day and some who work out frequently 100. So, just eat some veggies-keep calm and keto on.
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    Hi, yeah vegetables even cabbage and brocoli do have carbohydrates. You know I have chosen to eat without any vegetables at all, because I am poor, and vegetables are getting very expensive. And I'd rather spend 3 dollars on eggs, or chicken than on a bag of brocoli. The prices of vegetables and fruits are rising real fast. Sooner or later only the upper classes might be able to eat fruits and vegetables in USA. That's why I have dediced to do this keto diet without any green vegetables at all. I think I might take around 10 to 12 grams of carbohydrates a day, 7 grams of carbohydrates from 1 scoop of Body Fortress whey protein powder, and the other grams from eggs


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    I really love vegetables and I hate having to limit the amount of spinach, broccoli, lettuce, celery and other low carb vegetables that I eat. Can veggies really take you out of ketosis if lets say i consume like 25 carbs from them per day? I havn't been doing this but I am just wondering since vegetables have a very low gi.
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    As long as your taking a multi-vitamin daily(I take mine with my post workout shake after lifting daily, as I read somewhere high vitamin C concentration will spike insulin levels), would it be detrimental to not consume veggies if you take a fiber supplement? I have been wondering this for quite sometime as well. Veggie options are not always so great out here in the military DFAC'S of Afghanistan....
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