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    rest day nutrition

    lets say the average lifting who walks into the gym should burn around 500 calories for a standard hour long hypertrophy workout (correct me if im wrong ?), What do you think about dropping these calories when im resting, ill still be aiming to shoot over maintenance to keep myself anabolic but i don't see the need in consuming my calories id lose at the gym if im not there ?

    so it would look something like this roughly

    Monday Wednesday Friday workout days : Tdee 2400 cals + gym 500 estimate cals + surplus 300 = 3200 cals

    Weekend rest days : tdee 2400 cals + surplus 300 cals = 2700

    any input would be greatly appreciated

    i have searched many places and looked at many threads and everyone seems to have conflicting views on the subject even the professionals. is their actual REAL nutritional evidence thats shows that digestion happens on a liner basis or that it is better to eat the same it seems like common sense show that eat more when more calories are burned but its hard to do that because you carnet be definite on how many calories you are burning
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    Originally Posted by kieran12345678 View Post
    lets say the average lifting who walks into the gym should burn around 500 calories for a standard hour long hypertrophy workout (correct me if im wrong ?), What do you think about dropping these calories when im resting, ill still be aiming to shoot over maintenance to keep myself anabolic but i don't see the need in consuming my calories id lose at the gym if im not there ?

    so it would look something like this roughly

    Monday Wednesday Friday workout days : Tdee 2400 cals + gym 500 estimate cals + surplus 300 = 3200 cals

    Weekend rest days : tdee 2400 cals + surplus 300 cals = 2700

    any input would be greatly appreciated

    i have searched many places and looked at many threads and everyone seems to have conflicting views on the subject even the professionals. is their actual REAL nutritional evidence thats shows that digestion happens on a liner basis or that it is better to eat the same it seems like common sense show that eat more when more calories are burned but its hard to do that because you carnet be definite on how many calories you are burning
    Personally I eat the same whether it's a training day or a non-training day, reason being is that your body is recovering on non-training days and still needs those calories.
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    It's one way to approach things.
    I don't do it because protein synthesis is maintained for upwards of 48 hours after weight training. Your muscles are looking for food up to 2 days after training.

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    Originally Posted by 71Avido View Post
    It's one way to approach things.
    I don't do it because protein synthesis is maintained for upwards of 48 hours after weight training. Your muscles are looking for food up to 2 days after training.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9252485
    im gonna still be in a surpluss
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    eat the same. your body needs the calories and macros/micros more on rest days because your body is busy repairing. In away its like giving a construction worker every tool he/she needs and you dont give them the nails. stick to the same count. keep it simple
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    Originally Posted by justin0202 View Post
    eat the same. your body needs the calories and macros/micros more on rest days because your body is busy repairing. In away its like giving a construction worker every tool he/she needs and you dont give them the nails. stick to the same count. keep it simple
    i dont wanna be in a deflect on workdays, and surpluss to high on rest days
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    Originally Posted by kieran12345678 View Post
    i dont wanna be in a deflect on workdays, and surpluss to high on rest days
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    ummm.. i never said be in a deficit on workdays if thats what your getting at. I am saying eat at a 10% surplus regardless dude workout and rest days eat at a 10% surplus. not that hard.
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    Originally Posted by justin0202 View Post
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    ummm.. i never said be in a deficit on workdays if thats what your getting at. I am saying eat at a 10% surplus regardless dude workout and rest days eat at a 10% surplus. not that hard.
    it kinda because you never know how much you are gonna burn
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    Originally Posted by kieran12345678 View Post
    it kinda because you never know how much you are gonna burn
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    What you can do than, is simply to round up everything. Eat the same amount everyday, so for you can go for around 2925 calories a day (3200 x 3 + 2700 x 4)/7

    So that way you have the same amount of calories you are aiming for weekly but you will eat the same amount. It might be less pain in the butt that way. It's up to you, at the end, the most important thing is that you're reaching your goals whatever the way you're doing it !
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    Originally Posted by DjOnEChuck View Post
    What you can do than, is simply to round up everything. Eat the same amount everyday, so for you can go for around 2925 calories a day (3200 x 3 + 2700 x 4)/7

    So that way you have the same amount of calories you are aiming for weekly but you will eat the same amount. It might be less pain in the butt that way. It's up to you, at the end, the most important thing is that you're reaching your goals whatever the way you're doing it !
    actuarially it equals to 2900 a day i rounded it up i used to eat 2900 per day now rest day 2675 workoutday3200 but i upped it due to not gaining weight now I'm eating 2875 rest day and 3400 workout day this has given me far better result i just wanted to know because it makes things a lot easier when i can eat the same everyday
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    I think you did the right thing by upping calories up if you don't gain weight. It's really trial and error to figure out nutrition and calorie intake. It could take months !! Keep up the good work and good luck with your fitness goals.
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    Originally Posted by DjOnEChuck View Post
    I think you did the right thing by upping calories up if you don't gain weight. It's really trial and error to figure out nutrition and calorie intake. It could take months !! Keep up the good work and good luck with your fitness goals.
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    Troll thread people.

    He's made about 5 different threads with this same question and constantly argues logic with nonsense.

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    Troll thread people.

    He's made about 5 different threads with this same question and constantly argues logic with nonsense.

    Look at the deep reds *Hint hint*
    seriously you aint helping I'm making more threads because I'm not getting any awnswer i just get conflicting views is der any evidence of studies done
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    seriously you aint helping I'm making more threads because I'm not getting any awnswer i just get conflicting views is der any evidence of studies done
    There is no help for you.

    Every thread you make you get the same answer from multiple posters.
    Stop adjusting calories, eat constantly and balance it out and you're going to get the same results (or even better because you'll be fueling your growth on off days with a surplus) as when you're trying to adjust daily.
    There is no need for this, its unnecessary work.

    Yet no matter how many times you get this same, solid advice.
    You wait about a week or so and make the exact same thread again.

    Stop with the threads. They're annoying and the answers aren't changing.
    So either listen to our advice, or keep going with over thinking and working doing your method.
    Either way stop posting the same thread 1,000,000 times and hoping for different responses.
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    Dem der dag'on macros'ez
    maby i wouldn't have to if their was evidence from a person like lyle mcdonald
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