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    (Stopped my brosplit)Starting a Push/Pull?egs routine. Which one of these are better?

    Hey dudes. Going to start a Push/Pull/Legs/Rest/Repeat routine. Just wanted to know which of these routines is better for mass gain, because I got given them by different people.

    Routine 1


    Push (Chest/Triceps/Shoulders):
    Flat Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
    Seated Barbell Shoulder/Overhead Press: 3x5
    Incline Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
    Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise: 3x10-12
    Rope Pushdowns: 3x10-12
    Overhead Dumbbell Extension : 3x10-12

    Pull (Back/Biceps):
    Barbell Rows: 3x5
    Pull Ups/Pulldowns: 3x8-10
    Face-pulls: 3x-10-12
    Barbell Bicep Curls (Alternate between close and normal grip): 4x-10-12
    Hammer Curls: 3x10-12
    Dumbell Shrugs: 3x10-12

    Legs
    Barbell Squats: 4x5-6
    Leg Press 3x8-10
    Leg Extensions : 3x10-12
    Hamstring Curls : 3x10-12
    Calf Raises : 5x10-12

    or

    Routine 2

    Push:
    barbell bench press 4x10
    incline dumbell press 4x10
    seated shoulder press 4x10
    upright barbell rows 4x10
    skull crushers 4x10


    Pull:
    bent over barbell row 4x10
    pullups 4x10
    seated cable rows 4x10
    lat pulldown 4x10
    barbell curls 4x10

    Legs/abs:
    barbell squats 4x10
    leg press 4x10
    Leg extensions 4x10
    leg curls 4x10
    Abs Routine

    or Routine 3
    Push
    Bench press 5x5
    Incline or Decline dumbell press 3x10 (Alternate)
    Dumbell Shoulder press 3x10
    Any Variation of flies 3x12
    Any Tricep excercise 3x12

    Pull-
    Deadlift 5x5
    Barbell Rows or Dumbell Rows 3x10
    Lat Pulldown (Wide or close grip) 3x10
    Lateral Dumbell Raises supersetted with Rear Delt Flyes 4x15
    Any form of Bicep Curls 3x12

    Legs
    Heavy squats 5x5
    Leg Press 3x8-10
    Leg Extensions : 3x10-12
    Hamstring Curls : 3x10-12
    Calf Raises : 5x10-12
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    Originally Posted by tekno17 View Post
    Hey dudes. Going to start a Push/Pull/Legs/Rest/Repeat routine. Just wanted to know which of these routines is better for mass gain, because I got given them by different people.

    Routine 1


    Push (Chest/Triceps/Shoulders):
    Flat Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
    Seated Barbell Shoulder/Overhead Press: 3x5
    Incline Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
    Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise: 3x10-12
    Rope Pushdowns: 3x10-12
    Overhead Dumbbell Extension : 3x10-12

    Pull (Back/Biceps):
    Barbell Rows: 3x5
    Pull Ups/Pulldowns: 3x8-10
    Face-pulls: 3x-10-12
    Barbell Bicep Curls (Alternate between close and normal grip): 4x-10-12
    Hammer Curls: 3x10-12
    Dumbell Shrugs: 3x10-12

    Legs
    Barbell Squats: 4x5-6
    Leg Press 3x8-10
    Leg Extensions : 3x10-12
    Hamstring Curls : 3x10-12
    Calf Raises : 5x10-12

    or

    Routine 2

    Push:
    barbell bench press 4x10
    incline dumbell press 4x10
    seated shoulder press 4x10
    upright barbell rows 4x10
    skull crushers 4x10


    Pull:
    bent over barbell row 4x10
    pullups 4x10
    seated cable rows 4x10
    lat pulldown 4x10
    barbell curls 4x10

    Legs/abs:
    barbell squats 4x10
    leg press 4x10
    Leg extensions 4x10
    leg curls 4x10
    Abs Routine

    or Routine 3
    Push
    Bench press 5x5
    Incline or Decline dumbell press 3x10 (Alternate)
    Dumbell Shoulder press 3x10
    Any Variation of flies 3x12
    Any Tricep excercise 3x12

    Pull-
    Deadlift 5x5
    Barbell Rows or Dumbell Rows 3x10
    Lat Pulldown (Wide or close grip) 3x10
    Lateral Dumbell Raises supersetted with Rear Delt Flyes 4x15
    Any form of Bicep Curls 3x12

    Legs
    Heavy squats 5x5
    Leg Press 3x8-10
    Leg Extensions : 3x10-12
    Hamstring Curls : 3x10-12
    Calf Raises : 5x10-12

    I would go with routine 3. It has the most compound movements. Plus with the 5X5 training. you will gain size and strength, Which is a plus. Cause who dosnt like to lift heavy ass weight!
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    Dead lift: 335lb
    Bench press: 205lb
    Total: 845lb

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    Originally Posted by tekno17 View Post
    Hey dudes. Going to start a Push/Pull/Legs/Rest/Repeat routine. Just wanted to know which of these routines is better for mass gain, because I got given them by different people.

    Routine 1


    Push (Chest/Triceps/Shoulders):
    Flat Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
    Seated Barbell Shoulder/Overhead Press: 3x5
    Incline Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
    Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise: 3x10-12
    Rope Pushdowns: 3x10-12
    Overhead Dumbbell Extension : 3x10-12

    Pull (Back/Biceps):
    Barbell Rows: 3x5
    Pull Ups/Pulldowns: 3x8-10
    Face-pulls: 3x-10-12
    Barbell Bicep Curls (Alternate between close and normal grip): 4x-10-12
    Hammer Curls: 3x10-12
    Dumbell Shrugs: 3x10-12

    Legs
    Barbell Squats: 4x5-6
    Leg Press 3x8-10
    Leg Extensions : 3x10-12
    Hamstring Curls : 3x10-12
    Calf Raises : 5x10-12

    or

    Routine 2

    Push:
    barbell bench press 4x10
    incline dumbell press 4x10
    seated shoulder press 4x10
    upright barbell rows 4x10
    skull crushers 4x10


    Pull:
    bent over barbell row 4x10
    pullups 4x10
    seated cable rows 4x10
    lat pulldown 4x10
    barbell curls 4x10

    Legs/abs:
    barbell squats 4x10
    leg press 4x10
    Leg extensions 4x10
    leg curls 4x10
    Abs Routine

    or Routine 3
    Push
    Bench press 5x5
    Incline or Decline dumbell press 3x10 (Alternate)
    Dumbell Shoulder press 3x10
    Any Variation of flies 3x12
    Any Tricep excercise 3x12

    Pull-
    Deadlift 5x5
    Barbell Rows or Dumbell Rows 3x10
    Lat Pulldown (Wide or close grip) 3x10
    Lateral Dumbell Raises supersetted with Rear Delt Flyes 4x15
    Any form of Bicep Curls 3x12

    Legs
    Heavy squats 5x5
    Leg Press 3x8-10
    Leg Extensions : 3x10-12
    Hamstring Curls : 3x10-12
    Calf Raises : 5x10-12
    One of these could possibly get stolen by me. How many days a week would you be doing this?
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    What are your lifts OP?
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    My lifts are. 190 lb bench, and 280 lb squat 1rm. Why?
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    Routine one with another row variation in place of one of those bicep exercises
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    I personally think doing flat press, then incline press, then overhead press in a row is too much.
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    Originally Posted by sgttom View Post
    I personally think doing flat press, then incline press, then overhead press in a row is too much.
    shoot didn't even notice, thought the second exercise was flat DB bench. Reading comprehension not even once.

    I'd take a look at Coolcicada's PPL or Spiderman997's PPL (same thread)
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    Routine 1 is Coolcicadas routine. lol. And he put Flat >Overhead>Incline all on same day.
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    Originally Posted by tekno17 View Post
    Routine 1 is Coolcicadas routine. lol. And he put Flat >Overhead>Incline all on same day.
    I thought he had them alternated
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    Originally Posted by Tb0282 View Post
    shoot didn't even notice, thought the second exercise was flat DB bench. Reading comprehension not even once.

    I'd take a look at Coolcicada's PPL or Spiderman997's PPL (same thread)
    hehe yea

    Originally Posted by tekno17 View Post
    Routine 1 is Coolcicadas routine. lol. And he put Flat >Overhead>Incline all on same day.
    Have you ever tried it before? I do flat and overhead on the same day. When lifting heavy I am already beat. If I added incline in before overhead I just wouldn't have much to put in to overhead.
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    Originally Posted by Coolcicada
    Push (Chest/Triceps/Shoulders):

    Flat Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
    Seated (or Standing) Barbell Shoulder/Overhead Press: 3x5
    Incline Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
    Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise: 3x10-12
    Rope Pushdowns (circuit machine): 3x10-12
    Overhead Dumbbell Extension or similar triceps exercise: 3x10-12
    Shrugs(circuit machine or dumbbells): 3x10-12

    Pull (Back/Biceps):

    Barbell Rows: 3x5
    Lat Pulldowns with (Long Bar or V-bar) (circuit machine): 3x8-10
    Seated Rows (circuit machine) - optional if already doing barbell rows: 3x8-10
    Face-pulls: 3x-10-12
    Barbell Bicep Curls (Alternate between close and normal grip): 4x-10-12
    Choice of one other bicep exercise (typically Hammer Curls): 3x10-12

    Legs (Quad/Ham/Calves):

    Barbell Squats: 4x5-6
    Leg Press (optional if already doing above squats): 3x8-10
    Leg Extensions (circuit machine): 3x10-12
    Hamstring Curls (circuit machine): 3x10-12
    Standing Calf Raises (circuit machine): 5x10-12

    I usually do either P/P/L [REST] P/P/L or P/P/L/P/P/L[Rest]

    * I did not list any warm-up exercises. *
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