Struggling with protein shakes!

[K4mi]

Does anyone else struggle to fit in their shakes between meals and training?

On training days I take one before and after training and on rest days I take one as I get up and one before bed!

I'm using Matrix Anabolic whey protein. I feel like I can barely fit it all in.
The matrix mixes 1 scoop to 500ml. I feel it's a lot.
I know it's not the best stuff out there but I bought it before reading reviews, so I'm just going to finish it and try something from the BBW range.

Is this full up feeling common with shakes?

[KobiDC]

What makes you feel that you need to have the shakes in the first place? Are you struggling to hit your dietary protein requirements through your normal meals?

[KayPS]

Didn't read your whole post. The title alone was enough. Don't drink them.

[Gxp23]

you dont need them, its literally just protein, the same stuff you find in food, not some magical unicorn semen thats going to make you grow layer upon layer of lean mass, trust me, just save them for when you need to supplement them into your diet.

[RyGuy14]

Pretty much everything else that has been said ^^^^^^^^^^

Protein shakes are good for supplementing if you're particularly low on protein in a day. Personally I always have one after my workouts because I put frozen fruit, chocolate chips, etc. in it so it's like a post-workout treat for me

That being said, there have been days where I've actually run out of protein foods (eggs, chicken, cottage cheese, milk, etc.) during long periods of work, and I had to have 2 or 3 scoops. But that's one isolated incident. You shouldn't be consuming that much protein powder on your average day.

What's your diet look like? Maybe we can help point you in the direction of higher protein foods?

[cumminslifter]

you dont need them, its literally just protein, the same stuff you find in food, not some magical unicorn semen thats going to make you grow layer upon layer of lean mass, trust me, just save them for when you need to supplement them into your diet.

lol, this is true op^ it is basically powdered milk
if you don't want to drink one then don't. I haven't in years

[kenny85]

magical unicorn semen

This supposed to be like deer antler velvet?

[Gxp23]

This supposed to be like deer antler velvet?

it could be...

[K4mi]

This supposed to be like deer antler velvet?

I'm not that green to think its a magical potion lol!
With not having much experience and finding a lot of conflicting information on the tinternet; I just used the guidelines on the packaging as a starting point with the intention of finding a happy medium to supplement my existing diet. I thought it was just me being weak and having to man up lol!


RyGuy14 - I definitely feel I don't get enough protein in my diet for sure. I'll make a point of doing a food diary and maybe post up at a later date, any opinions/advice would be welcome. I work in what is essentially a fast food environment. Anyone who is from Scotland will tell you that it's not the healthiest of nations if you work in catering. LOL
Most days my meals consist of a plated salad with 1 protein choice. And at an evening I will have something like fish, potatoes and fresh veg.

Cheers for the advice guys, everyone has been helpful so far!

[digistp]

I work in what is essentially a fast food environment. Anyone who is from Scotland will tell you that it's not the healthiest of nations if you work in catering

Care to confirm Gxp? I thought the US had this rep above any other well-developed nations. Or maybe I'm just ignorant

[Gxp23]

I'm not that green to think its a magical potion lol!
With not having much experience and finding a lot of conflicting information on the tinternet; I just used the guidelines on the packaging as a starting point with the intention of finding a happy medium to supplement my existing diet. I thought it was just me being weak and having to man up lol!


RyGuy14 - I definitely feel I don't get enough protein in my diet for sure. I'll make a point of doing a food diary and maybe post up at a later date, any opinions/advice would be welcome. I work in what is essentially a fast food environment. Anyone who is from Scotland will tell you that it's not the healthiest of nations if you work in catering. LOL
Most days my meals consist of a plated salad with 1 protein choice. And at an evening I will have something like fish, potatoes and fresh veg.

Cheers for the advice guys, everyone has been helpful so far!

how much protein do you get daily?

[cumminslifter]

how much protein do you get daily?

this^ what are your macros?

[coconuttree2009]

I'm not that green to think its a magical potion lol!
With not having much experience and finding a lot of conflicting information on the tinternet; I just used the guidelines on the packaging as a starting point with the intention of finding a happy medium to supplement my existing diet. I thought it was just me being weak and having to man up lol!


RyGuy14 - I definitely feel I don't get enough protein in my diet for sure. I'll make a point of doing a food diary and maybe post up at a later date, any opinions/advice would be welcome. I work in what is essentially a fast food environment. Anyone who is from Scotland will tell you that it's not the healthiest of nations if you work in catering. LOL
Most days my meals consist of a plated salad with 1 protein choice. And at an evening I will have something like fish, potatoes and fresh veg.

Cheers for the advice guys, everyone has been helpful so far!

If you "feel" you are not getting enough protein in your diet I am assuming you are not counting your macros.
No point in supplementing with protein powder if you have no clue what you are eating in the first place.
I get 170-180g of protein per day through my foods alone, so imagine if I added another scoop or two - it would take me way overboard.

[ElJefe904]

Didn't read your whole post. The title alone was enough. Don't drink them.

What is wrong with protein shakes? I use them with success. Its not supposed to substitute your meals but like the OP said he is using them between meals. I can't constantly eat a meal at my desk. So a protein shake is a good substitute to get some protein in my system before I can eat again.

[Gxp23]

What is wrong with protein shakes? I use them with success. Its not supposed to substitute your meals but like the OP said he is using them between meals. I can't constantly eat a meal at my desk. So a protein shake is a good substitute to get some protein in my system before I can eat again.

Nothings wrong with them, the op said he was struggling with them, so it was suggested he stops trying to force them down, and perhaps just eat more food with protein at the time of his meals...

[KayPS]

What is wrong with protein shakes? I use them with success. Its not supposed to substitute your meals but like the OP said he is using them between meals. I can't constantly eat a meal at my desk. So a protein shake is a good substitute to get some protein in my system before I can eat again.

The title is "Struggling with protein shakes!" If he's struggling with them, he doesn't need to drink them, as they are not necessary. Not that difficult to understand.

EDIT: You're quick today, G.

[coconuttree2009]

What is wrong with protein shakes? I use them with success. Its not supposed to substitute your meals but like the OP said he is using them between meals. I can't constantly eat a meal at my desk. So a protein shake is a good substitute to get some protein in my system before I can eat again.

Noone said anything is wrong with them, what everyone says is that they are not necessary if the OP does not like them.

[mkcookin]

A lot of people were saying they are unnecessary.

I may be wrong so please correct me if I am -- but is it not the best time to fuel our muscles with protein right after we workout? This is usually the peak time to nourish them and help them grow.

By drinking a shake it goes right into our blood stream quickly -- unlike eating food which takes much longer to get into our muscles.

Thoughts and opinions ?

Thanks

[Gxp23]

A lot of people were saying they are unnecessary.

I may be wrong so please correct me if I am -- but is it not the best time to fuel our muscles with protein right after we workout? This is usually the peak time to nourish them and help them grow.

By drinking a shake it goes right into our blood stream quickly -- unlike eating food which takes much longer to get into our muscles.

Thoughts and opinions ?

Thanks

you are wrong yes.

Although yes a whey is faster and easier absorbed, it makes not real difference when you get your protein, or first meal in after a workout.

[PBateman2]

A lot of people were saying they are unnecessary.

I may be wrong so please correct me if I am -- but is it not the best time to fuel our muscles with protein right after we workout? This is usually the peak time to nourish them and help them grow.

By drinking a shake it goes right into our blood stream quickly -- unlike eating food which takes much longer to get into our muscles.

Thoughts and opinions ?

Thanks

That is correct.

This was true in 1995.

[ironwill2008]

By drinking a shake it goes right into our blood stream quickly....

That it does.

But if there are plenty of aminos still in blood circulation from your last meal (which there are for many hours after a regular large meal), what's the need?

Contrary to what the supplement companies want you to think, dumping more aminos into the bloodstream won't force more muscle growth; that's regulated by your genetics and many other factors, not by simply piling on more raw materials when they're already present in sufficient quantity.

[K4mi]

I've got my info logged in my phone to do my macros calculations, I've been logging my intake since Monday. I'm averaging 2800+ calories just from the top of my head.

My average daily food intake consists of the following -
Breakfast - 100g Whole grain cereal with 125ml skimmed milk and sliced fresh banana.

Lunch - Salad with some compound fillings such as couscous, rice, pasta etc and a protein like an egg or 2 slices of cooked ham.
1x 125g fat free yoghurt
1x fruit - can be bananna, orange apple etc.

Afternoon- after workout I'd have 500ml protein shake which consist of 40g protein (according to the label)

Dinner - Home cooked meal such as boiled fish served with whole grain rice, lots greens such as broccoli and carrots etc and potatoes
Other times I would have for example a portion of homemade shepherds pie and a side of greens. for those that don't know what that is, its basically minced beef carrots, turnip, brocolli all mixed in an oven dish with a layer of mash potato on top.

And that's basically my average diet. Obviously it varies daily but it's more or less what we eat in my household.

If I should be trying something different, I'm open to suggestions!





I'll get back to you on that when I have a chance to sit down and work it out properly. I've got an app for it, just need to figure out how to work it.

When I said I was struggling, I was meaning in the term of feeling full up after about 300ml of it. The dozing instructions for the particular one I'm using is 1 scoop to 500ml fluid. It just seemed a lot that was all.
The guidelines on the instructions basically said that you should take a shske before and after a work out.

[cumminslifter]

I've got my info logged in my phone to do my macros calculations, I've been logging my intake since Monday. I'm averaging 2800+ calories just from the top of my head.

My average daily food intake consists of the following -
Breakfast - 100g Whole grain cereal with 125ml skimmed milk and sliced fresh banana.

Lunch - Salad with some compound fillings such as couscous, rice, pasta etc and a protein like an egg or 2 slices of cooked ham.
1x 125g fat free yoghurt
1x fruit - can be bananna, orange apple etc.

Afternoon- after workout I'd have 500ml protein shake which consist of 40g protein (according to the label)

Dinner - Home cooked meal such as boiled fish served with whole grain rice, lots greens such as broccoli and carrots etc and potatoes
Other times I would have for example a portion of homemade shepherds pie snd a side of greens. for those that font know what that is, its basically minced beef carrots, turnip, brocolli all mixed in an oven dish with a layer of mash potato on top.

And that's basically my average diet. Obviously it varies daily but it's more or less what we eat in my household.

If I should be trying something different, I'm open to suggestions!





I'll get back to you on that when I have a chance to sit down and work it out properly. I've got an app for it, just need to figure out how to work it.

When I said I was struggling, I was meaning in the term of feeling full up after about 300ml of it. The dozing instructions for the particular one I'm using is 1 scoop to 500ml fluid. It just seemed a lot that was all.
The guidelines on the instructions basically said that you should take a shske before and after a work out.

what are your macros?

[FattyMcTubbs]

Does anyone else struggle to fit in their shakes between meals and training?

No, I try not to waste my calories on shakes.
If you're that strapped for time, prepare your weekly meals on the weekends.

[K4mi]

what are your macros?

I'm around a 40% protein, 40% carb, 20% fat Macro

Don't know if that's any good but that's what my app worked me out at. I based that on an average daily meal for me.

[FattyMcTubbs]

WHat app? MFP?
Figure it out yourself and give us grams not %es.

[doranj1978]

I'm around a 40% protein, 40% carb, 20% fat Macro

Don't know if that's any good but that's what my app worked me out at. I based that on an average daily meal for me.

That's no good dude. Give us your gram, and then try this -> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981

Report back.

[K4mi]

Care to confirm Gxp? I thought the US had this rep above any other well-developed nations. Or maybe I'm just ignorant

Scotland is home of the deep fried battered mars bar! And let's not forget Irn Bru

[cumminslifter]

I'm around a 40% protein, 40% carb, 20% fat Macro

Don't know if that's any good but that's what my app worked me out at. I based that on an average daily meal for me.

we need numbers