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    Is OHP necessary?

    I know bench works mostly front delt, but if you add additional lateral/rear delt work, do you need ohp or any additional front delt work besides bench press? Just wondering what everyone thinks about this.
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    I don't feel any/much delt burn with bench press.
    OHP sets them on fire.
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    Is bench necessary if you do lots of OHPs and some neck weighted dips?
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Is bench necessary if you do lots of OHPs and some neck weighted dips?
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    Definitely not necessary, but how important it is depends on your goals. I personally would add some sort of overhead pressing variant, or even some incline bench presses to get some more front delt work in.
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    Originally Posted by Balddude View Post
    ^Answer.

    Definitely not necessary, but how important it is depends on your goals. I personally would add some sort of overhead pressing variant, or even some incline bench presses to get some more front delt work in.
    I guess what I'm getting at is, lets say someone does flat and incline bench, front delts usually work fairly hard in those two exercises I believe, if a person doesn't do any ohp movements, but does do additional side/rear delt work, will his front delts lag due to lack of any direct front delt/overall delt movements?
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    Originally Posted by Chaosvash View Post
    I guess what I'm getting at is, lets say someone does flat and incline bench, front delts usually work fairly hard in those two exercises I believe, if a person doesn't do any ohp movements, but does do additional side/rear delt work, will his front delts lag due to lack of any direct front delt/overall delt movements?
    No, the front delt is usually overworked in most lifters. From a strength perspective the OHP should be worked, but you don't need it to build a balanced physique (provided you do the right assistance work to replace the things the OHP accomplishes aside from the front delt work). I highly doubt you think standing up and pushing weight above your head only hits your front delts.
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    I ran into shoulder problems when I did nothing but bench. I don't have shoulder problems anymore now that I OHP along with other shoulder strengthening exercises.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Is bench necessary if you do lots of OHPs and some neck weighted dips?
    good point


    i'm sure a beginner in the gym can test his bench max

    then do nothing but pec deck, tricep rope pushdowns and barbell front raise for a year and his bench will increase

    then after that year is up he can do nothing but bench press for a year and his bench will increase




    probably same does not apply to advanced lifters, they could MAYBE maintain bench strength by just doing OHP and dips...idk someone could try this out and report back with results
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