Alan Aragon, bestow your wisdom upon us. "Not eating carbs after working out"

[Mackan58]

Greetings Alan,

I would be much obliged if you could elaborate on the following matter:

In a conference in Ireland where Kai Greene and George Farah participated, Farah claimed that eating carbs directly post workout would hinder the body's own production of growth hormones. Now I know that the first and second most important rule is that the nutrient intake at the end of the day is paramount to anything else. But for the sake of argument and optimizing everything. Does this hold any credibility or is it just bro-science?

Best regards,

Latsbrah

[germaine07]

http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-10-5.pdf

[Mackan58]

http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-10-5.pdf

Thanks man! However this isn't about the anabolic window, but rather about whether an intake of carbohydrates directly post workout impedes on the body's hormonal production.

[germaine07]

Thanks man! However this isn't about the anabolic window, but rather about whether an intake of carbohydrates directly post workout impedes on the body's hormonal production.

Pretty sure he covers that.

[CannonH]

Thanks man! However this isn't about the anabolic window, but rather about whether an intake of carbohydrates directly post workout impedes on the body's hormonal production.

Even if there is evidence supporting it hindering hormonal production the effects of this would be so miniscule it should not make a difference unless your using. As long as your inside the normal testosterone ranges I do not believe that there is any evidence that supports small variations within the range effects performance or muscle growth.

[cumminslifter]

whey protein alone Is very insulinotropic, so you better not be consuming that if you are avoiding and insulin spike.
insulin actually inhibits protein breakdown, so I would say its a good thing

[germaine07]

Thanks man! However this isn't about the anabolic window, but rather about whether an intake of carbohydrates directly post workout impedes on the body's hormonal production.

Just to add, acute rises and drops in hormone levels have never been shown to actually have any meaningful effect on body composition.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Alan doesn't check this section because he knows that it's probably the least "scientific" of them all

[GermanBarbarian]

Alan doesn't check this section because he knows that it's probably the least "scientific" of them all

Nice last name (same as mine), and to OP he already answered this question, "Small and insignificant difference" is the cliff note version.

[hisairness23]

PDF too long.

[pleiadian]

High intensity training such as sprinting or lifting weights increases the body's production of HGH by around 500% which stays elevated for around 90-120 minutes. The production of HGH has an inverse relationship with the production of insulin, i.e. if your body starts to produce insulin then it stops producing HGH.


edit: Just fyi, the consumption of protein stimulates the body to produce insulin as well.



ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12137178?dopt=Abstract

eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-04/imc-sfr033111.php

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20837645

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18184755

weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

[WMLifting]

whey protein alone Is very insulinotropic, so you better not be consuming that if you are avoiding and insulin spike.
insulin actually inhibits protein breakdown, so I would say its a good thing

Don't BCAA's have an even higher spike then whey? shyt can't eat nothing after lifting or ill be losing all my gains! Haha

[aaaaaaaaaachooo]

High intensity training such as sprinting or lifting weights increases the body's production of HGH by around 500% which stays elevated for around 90-120 minutes. The production of HGH has an inverse relationship with the production of insulin, i.e. if your body starts to produce insulin then it stops producing HGH.

Don't BCAA's have an even higher spike then whey? shyt can't eat nothing after lifting or ill be losing all my gains! Haha

This means BCAA intras are more detrimental than beneficial, (IMO) unless we're talking about "Endurance Training".

[WeightsNSteaks]

This is why you shoot GH post workout, and then your slin 30min later. Boom.