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    Rack Rows
    95, 135, 185, 225, 245x5

    Seated Calves
    2 platesx15(3)

    Spider Curls just straight weight
    20, 30, 40x10

    Facepulls ss Straight Arm Pulldowns
    30, 50, 70, 70x10/10

    I don't remember if I did rope curls or not.
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    When considering whether to go up in weight to hit a bigger double ask yourself, "what would KMC do?" And then do that.

    Anyway, I hope your life changes are for the better!
    Sounds like a plan. Thanks bud, one way or another they will end up working out for the better, just not sure where things are going to land.
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    Last 2 workouts

    Friday

    Squats
    330(4)
    350
    365, probably missed high and it was really hard, my lower back felt fatigued

    Closer Stance Pause Squats
    225x3
    275x5

    I don't know what happened but this was terrible.

    Sunday

    Bench
    300(4), the last one felt weird and went up uneven

    Closer Grip
    225, 275, 315, did 330 but the guy who spotted me didn't seem to speak English and kept his hands on the bar the whole time

    Real Close Grip thumb out from smoove
    225, 245, 265, 285x3

    Cable Crossovers ss Seated dips
    3x10/10

    V bar pushdowns
    5 sets of 10

    I think I mistimed my meals pretty badly on these workouts because everything felt like **** and it really shouldn't have from a recovery standpoint.
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    Your definition of close grip on bench has always made me laugh. Your real close grip is my normal grip, and my normal close grip is where the smooth meets the knurling. Maybe that's why my bench is terrible haha. Keep up the good work.

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    Originally Posted by sirwazzles View Post

    I'm sorry to hear about the sad things that are going on in your life bro. I'll be praying for you.
    X2


    My close grip had always been pinkies just inside the rings and normal grip index on the rings.

    I have recently been doing close grip about half a hand inside that. I moved my normal grip in to middle on rings so I could use more lats at the bottom.

    I don't know if it will be better, but I just wanted to try something new for awhile.
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    That's funny and interesting. When I was younger, I had some shoulder issues, and I guess that had me always benching closer than normal because it was easier. I actually tried wider today, ring on rings, and it felt pretty good. Maybe I'll give that a spin for awhile lol.
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    "Oly" Squats

    Squats moved my stance in and the bar up, tried to sit more down than back, not sure if these look right or not but they felt better
    135, 195, 225, belt, 275x3
    315x5, last paused

    45 degree hypers
    3 sets of 10

    For some reason my phone is not being recognized by my computer but these looked a lot better than Friday's which again makes no sense to me from a recovery standpoing but I guess maybe I do better with lighter work requiring less rest and I should just adjust accordingly




    Originally Posted by sirwazzles View Post
    Your definition of close grip on bench has always made me laugh. Your real close grip is my normal grip, and my normal close grip is where the smooth meets the knurling. Maybe that's why my bench is terrible haha. Keep up the good work.

    I'm sorry to hear about the sad things that are going on in your life bro. I'll be praying for you.
    Thanks for the support, that's really close but I've seen people that are stronger close, KK comes to mind.

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    X2


    My close grip had always been pinkies just inside the rings and normal grip index on the rings.

    I have recently been doing close grip about half a hand inside that. I moved my normal grip in to middle on rings so I could use more lats at the bottom.

    I don't know if it will be better, but I just wanted to try something new for awhile.
    That's kinda where I line up, but the lines on these bars are about a 2.5-3 inches inside where standard rings are, so index on these is roughly POR on standard. When I go too close my shoulder feels like it's going to separate.
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    Bench

    Pause bench closer grip, need to figure something out because I have bad re-sink going on
    135, 185,225, 27, 315x3 at least I'm getting stronger

    Incline
    185, 235x5 275x3, probably had another rep or two but wasn't gonna risk a miss

    Fly machine
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    Cable Crossovers ss Seated Dip
    50x20/stackx10(3)

    That was all.

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    Front Squats

    I slept 3 hours last night tops, I was going to skip but had 25 minutes before I went to a meeting so away I went. No caffeine because I want to sleep tonight

    Facepulls
    20, 40, 60x10

    Front Squats
    135x3 paused, 185x3 last rep paused, add belt, 225x3, take off belt 135x3 paused

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    Squats

    Squats
    135, 225, belt 285(2), 315, 335x3

    V platform hack squat
    ppsx8

    Leg Press
    pps, 2pps, 3pps, 4ppsx10



    I swam yesterday with the kids and actually tried to swim fast and my shoulder has hurt ever since. Oh well.
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    Weekend Training

    Saturday

    Pause Bench
    135, 225, 275, 315x3

    Feet Up Pause Widegrip
    225, 246, 265x5

    DB CSR
    70sx10(5)

    Chestpulls ss straight arm pulldowns
    50, 60, 70x10/10

    Sunday

    Seated Calves
    90x10(3)

    Closegrip this was stupid
    135x5, 225x5, 275, 315

    Seated Dip
    140x20, 190x15, 240x10

    Spider Curls
    20, 30, 40x10

    Rotary calves
    180x15(3)

    Rope Curl ss single arm pushdown
    70, 80, 90 ss 30, 40, 50x10/10

    Only did one stupid thing, but that was pretty stupid. Oh well.
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    from yesterday

    warmed up with bird dogs and 45 degree hypers, went early hoping to get in a bit of rep squatting to warm up but that wasn't to be as all the racks were taken

    Deads
    135, 225, 315, add belt and mixed grip, 405
    455x3, these were as slow as death, particularly the first one, then I settled in and stopped thinking too much, I need to start pulling at least once a week but maybe just speed pulls because I need the practice but don't want to compromise recovery. I need to get it sorted out

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    225, 275, 325x5

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    Bench

    from yesterday

    Pause Bench close(r) grip
    135, 225, 275, 315x2
    335, shoulder felt weird so a second rep wasn't happening, changed grip
    225, 275x3
    315x1, really lopsided and my shoulder hurt

    I just hit a wall, I really think I would've been okay if I hadn't done that stupid rep with 315 on closegrip Sunday. Oh well, can't change it now. I did go home after this which was certainly the right call.



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    I started DLing again lately. I'm trying to keep overall volume really low because of recovery and I hate it.
    Yeah I think yesterday was an example where I was fatigued generally due to deadlifting in the middle of a fair amount of frequency. The main problem was my shoulder, but my whole body was sore and I didn't feel strong enough to reduce the stress on my injured areas. That's probably why Dan Green programs his two days off the before and the day after Deads.
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    Fronts

    feel like I've been hit by a bus, so I kept it lower stress today

    Pause Front Squats
    135, 185, add belt, 225, 245, I felt like I paused on the 245 but it wasn't for very long. It moved decent so that's good.

    DB CSR
    80sx10(4)

    that was it. About 40 mins. of working out including warm-ups and putting on my shoes and knee sleeves

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    Weekend

    Saturday

    Pause Squats
    135, 185, 225, belt, 275, 315, 335, 355

    Higher Bar Pause squats felt like I was going too much back and not enough down
    135, belt, 225x3, then I cut it, it was just not a good workout



    Sunday

    Pause bench closer grip
    135, 185, 225, 275, 315, almost missed 315 and my shoulder felt weird, oddly the left shoulder, so I tried something different

    Wider Grip Pause Bench
    225, 275, 295, 315x3, 295 I actually had a good foot position and may have utilized leg drive but I got a massive hamstring cramp so I had to re-position and it was not as good on the 315, my shoulder felt better during the workout and has been killing me ever since. Joy.

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    Looks like your squat is getting stronger again. Bench not bad as always. What's your bodyweight looking like these days?
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    Deads

    My shoulder hurt so bad that squatting or front squatting and anything upper body was out of the question. Gonna take today off and see what I'm capable of doing without pain tomorrow. Wanted to see where I'm at next week which is probably still a possibility provided I don't do anything really stupid and if this is just a strain or tare as it appears since it feels betterer today. Anywhoot

    Deads
    135, 225 (s), 315, add belt and mixed grip, 405, 495. I probably should not have done the 495 but since I have really struggled with first reps and my form regressing when I touch a weight for the first time I decided to. It looked really terrible with lots of wasted movement before the bar moved because I was standing too close and tried to drop my hips down instead of pushing them back. It is what it is. Once it moved it was hard but not terrible.

    45 Degree hypers
    BWx5(between dead sets), 15, 15, 15

    Dead stop leg press
    90, 180, 270x5

    That was it, gonna pull with a buddy from the gym on Sunday AM. Here's some funny:




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    Looks like your squat is getting stronger again. Bench not bad as always. What's your bodyweight looking like these days?
    Thanks buddy. Bodyweight has been between 193-196, the plan was to get up around 200 during this attempt at peak but life had other plans and the only way I could do that averaging 4 hours of sleep and in a rough place mentally and emotionally would have been to get really fat and I just wasn't in the mood. I should probably call of testing and just roll into an offseason type deal but nobody ever accused me of being smart, at least not when it comes to lifting.
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    I understand. Being lighter/leaner isn't necessarily a bad thing. Strong 495 SLDL haha
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    Wednesday shoulder felt a little better promised myself I'd shut it down if anything hurt

    Pause bench
    45, 135, 225x5, pain on the 225

    then I did a bunch of rows on machines because that didn't hurt.

    Friday shoulder was bothering me so I figured maybe front squats would be easier on it than backsquats. As per usual I was wrong

    Front Squat
    45x5, 135x3, 185x3 and really ouchie shoulder

    Back Squat
    185, 225, belt 275, workset:
    315x5 was thinking about going up to 8 but really wanted 10 if I was going to rep out, 8 was there, 10 probably wasn't and I started to feel my shoulder as I got more forward lean

    Higher bar narrow stance pause squat
    225, 275x3



    Saturday

    JM Press
    95, 145, 195x5, first two sets didn't hurt and gave me false hope, last one hurt pretty bad

    Pushdowns
    single arm 3x10, rope 3x10

    Free Motion Chest Press to try to get osme blood in there
    4x25

    25 minute workout

    Sunday

    Deads stiff legged but not on purpose
    135, 225, 315, belt, 405, workset
    455x3, probably had another grindy rep or two but since I have aspirations/delusions to test this week decided not to approach failure

    Deficit SLDL on purpose
    225, 275, 325x5

    45 Degree Hyper DB Deads
    40sx8(3)

    Leg Press
    pps, 2pps, 3ppsx10 then was out of time

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    I understand. Being lighter/leaner isn't necessarily a bad thing. Strong 495 SLDL haha
    Yeah I don't mind that I haven't gained weight, wish I had gotten a bit more out of peaking but it wasn't meant to be this go round.
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    Yesterday

    Supposed to test bench, got up to a whopping 265 and my shoulder hurt so I stopped. Did some DB CSR, some cable crossovers, and some Incline Machine Bench which also hurt. I don't really know what to do since my shoulder is so jacked up. Today was supposed to be squats but I don't want to put any kind of stress on my shoulder for a couple days and pulling it back for squats seems to stress it, so I guess I'll do arms and see if I can squat Friday or Saturday. Time to go into an offseason mode I guess, this training cycle couldn't be more of a bust. Oh well.
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    Sorry about the cycle not going like you had hoped. Do you know what's wrong with your shoulder exactly?

    On a somewhat related note, where do you put your hands on the bar when you squat? And what does your foot placement look like?

    Also, have you tried higher volume benching with significantly lighter weight? So you can stay in the shoulder more comfortable range for awhile?

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    Sorry about the cycle not going like you had hoped. Do you know what's wrong with your shoulder exactly?

    On a somewhat related note, where do you put your hands on the bar when you squat? And what does your foot placement look like?

    Also, have you tried higher volume benching with significantly lighter weight? So you can stay in the shoulder more comfortable range for awhile?

    /barrageofquestions
    1) No biggie. Stuff happens. The front of my left shoulder has been bothering me, think in might be a labrum strain/small tear.
    2) Hands are around POR, feet are around shoulder width or a bit inside.
    3) See next post.
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    Last week and W1D1 "Offseason" (Secondary Bench)

    Cliffs for last week: did an arms workout on Wednesday but really struggled to find something that didn't hurt my shoulder.
    Friday: I did legs and squatted in triples up to 350 which was hard but moved okay:



    Saturday: I did some shoulders with very restricted range of motion and pushdowns and oddly that felt better on my shoulder then some cardio
    Sunday: Deads went up to 495 which I wanted to double but it felt stapled to the floor so I didn't even try on the first rep, then worked back up with better form to 415, but it was all really bad, did rack rows 6x6 up to 235, then some back machines. I am ready to quit banging my head against the wall so I am going to start a new "offseason" training cycle aimed at addressing weaknesses/injuries, building momentum, and maximizing recovery
    Monday: did cardio

    New program, I have drawn out the next 13 weeks, here's day 1:

    Closegrip bench last rep paused
    warm up
    205x8(3), feet up for the last set

    Incline HS Machine this will hopefully become regular Incline more often than not but there was no bench available and my shoulder is still iffy
    190x8(3)

    Cable Cross Overs
    40x12(4)

    Free Motion Tricep Extension will generally be DB skulls once I am recovered
    40x12(3)

    Facepulls
    40x12(3)

    That was it, took about 35 mins. and felt really good.
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    W1D2 Squat/Dead Assistance

    Front Squats
    warmed up to 165x5 singles, I don't know why but front squats really aggravate my shoulder deal, so I may go to either kinda wide box squats or really close back squats instead

    Sumo Deads
    135, 185, 235, belt, 285, 305 last set probably left more than the 4 reps I was looking for in the tank, but it doesn't really matter so I figured better too light than too heavy especially given how the first set moved

    Deficit SLDL
    135, 185, 235x8

    Hammer Strength Rows
    3x10

    Free Motion Rows
    4x10

    That was it. Took over an hour but a good 10-15 minutes was waiting on a rack. Not sure what's up with my shoulder and front squats but it's whatever, not a big deal I just need to stop doing stuff that hurts.
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    W1D3 Bench

    10/9/15

    Pause Bench
    45, 135, 185, 225, 245x5, top set probably wasn't actually a 6 but missing too light instead of too heavy at this point

    Closegrip last rep paused
    185, 225x8

    Spoto/Larsen Bench
    135x10(3)

    Concentration curls
    25x10(5) supersetted with secondary and thirdondary benches

    Cable Cross ss Seated Dip
    3x15/15

    I need to make my arms less suck, noticed it in photos.
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    W1D4 Squats and Deads

    8/10/15

    Squats
    45, 135, 185, 235, belt, 285x5, again probably didn't hit my target RPE but I was getting a little too forward and there's really no reason to screw around right now

    Deads only rest was adding the quarters
    135, 185, 235, 285

    DB CSR
    60sx15(3)

    I feel like I did something else but can't remember.

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    W2D1 Bench Assistance

    Closegrip first and last reps paused
    215x7(3)

    Incline Hammer Machine
    200x7(3)

    DB Skulls
    25sx12(3)

    Cable Curls
    3x10

    Facepulls
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    W2D2 Squat/Dead Assistance

    Even higher bar really super close stance pause squats cuz fronts hurt my shoulder right meow
    45, 135, 185, 225, belt, 275, again may have undershot the RPE depending on how



    Sumo Deads
    225x5 singles



    45 degree hypers
    3x10

    Machine Row
    3x10

    That was it. About 45 minutes of workout time.
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    What training cycle are you following? Got an overview of the whole thing and/or a normal week?
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