I'm having some trouble with my triceps; as a new lifter I only did tricep pushdowns/triangle pushups/dips and now my tricep heads aren't proportional. What are the best exercises to engage all 3 heads?
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06-04-2013, 04:55 PM #1
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06-04-2013, 07:57 PM #8
Proportional to what?
1) to other parts of your body?
2) between each other?
3) each head development is different?
If it is the 3rd one, you cannot actually isolate separate heads (only long head during chin-ups due to its different function) - they have the same innervation, even though some people will swear that isolation is possible.
Keep hitting your triceps as you are doing - your routine is not that bad. Come back to us when it gets bigger. I'm sure, by that time there will be no questions about proportions.
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06-04-2013, 10:18 PM #14
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When working with heavy weights getting ready for a one armed chin up I never felt anything in my triceps. I realize you only brought up chins and the long head since you feel they isolate only one portion of the tricep. With that being said you mentioned chin ups in a thread asking about good exercises to hit triceps. lol. Ironic? I mean triceps aren't even a tertiary muscle in a chin up.
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06-04-2013, 10:22 PM #15
Nothing to add. This does not negate any of my points, just another debatable topic. "Stabiliser" and "dynamic" are two words that don't match together perfectly, isn't it? There are plenty of articles stating that the long head is dynamically involved in adduction as a synergist to lats, rear delts etc. In any case, chins are definitely not exercise to hit all 3 heads as OP wanted.
I need to clarify: not 100 reps in a single set, but in about 8 sets - not a problem. Less intense than you thought, but the volume is still high. Next day you'll definitely have DOMS in triceps - not an indicator of growth maybe, but at least indicator of you hitting the right muscle, and not something else.
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06-04-2013, 10:24 PM #16
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06-04-2013, 10:31 PM #18
No, those words do go together perfectly: http://www.exrx.net/Kinesiology/Glos...#anchor1276508
I need to clarify: not 100 reps in a single set, but in about 8 sets - not a problem. Less intense than you thought, but the volume is still high. Next day you'll definitely have DOMS in triceps - not an indicator of growth maybe, but at least indicator of you hitting the right muscle, and not something else.
Note, however, that a dynamic stabiliser might feel a little sore from being used thuswise, if it has already been smashed as a primary mover (i.e., target) the same session. So, if you've gone and done a bunch of heavy pressing, then some weighted chins, sure, in a roundabout way, they could be slightly more "taxed".
But it all comes down to this: It's disingenuous* to claim that chinups are a tricep exercise, especially in a thread where the OP is looking for exercises specifically to hammer them.
* aka a dick move.
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06-04-2013, 11:02 PM #19
Will agree if you refer me to a credible article that explicitly tells of tricep being dynamic stabiliser and not mover. You can easily find a lot of articles telling otherwise (even, excuse me, Wikipedia - I'm not telling that is a credible source though).
Abt being not overall triceps exercise - I agreed on that above already. No point arguing on that.
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06-04-2013, 11:14 PM #20
I have no idea what you consider to be a credible source. Also, I don't go around looking for articles on things like pullups, typically. I know what they do, and how they work well enough, in theory and practice. Enough to get by. Enough to know that I have to look elsewhere for tricep work.
But this might help support my posts: http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/.../BWPullup.html
Or not. You decide.
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06-04-2013, 11:22 PM #21
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06-05-2013, 05:26 AM #23
Skull crushers with strict form behind the head, hit my triceps more than anything. Absolutely rips them.
Also, try this superset, do tricep pushdowns with the bar on the cable machine, and superset it with overhead rope extensions. Use about half the weight for the overheads. Trust me. It's a killer.
My triceps have blown out with these 3 exercises.
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Any triceps exercise will activate all of the heads. The difference is what heads are emphasized more. OP, you won't find a single exercise that adequately hits all three heads, contrary to all of the statements that dips or close grip bench or skull crushers or whatever other exercise people want to say "hits all three triceps heads".
Triceps heads
Which head are you trying to emphasize:
Emphasis:
Overhead exercises that cause the long head to stretch = long head (example: skull crushers, French press, seated/standing/lying OH extension)
Standard presses and pressdowns = lateral head (example: CGBP, triceps dips, cable pressdowns)
Underhand/reverse grip exercises = medial head (example: reverse grip pressdown, kickbacks with an underhand grip / D-grip on cables)
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