want to do a 90 days starvation diet, how much would I lose?

[urukhai29]

hi guys, former fit/active guy turned into a fatso for the last 4 years, wanna jump start my return to fitness by kinda starving myself with around 800-1200 cals


the plan

1.diet-2 or 3 meals/day of around 400 cals each(will weight everything I eat and count calories strictly)

2.weight training-4 times /week

3.cardio-1 or 2 hours walking/day

I've been lurking for a couple weeks this site, so I already read the stickies ( 1 lb body weight loss/week(-500 cals) yada yada, not interested in going that slow since I have around 60 lbs to lose

stats
-male
-5'10
-236lbs

so my question for the people that have done LOW CALORIE DIETS, is how much I'm expected to lose if i do this for 90 days with my current stats and the level of cals/activity im planning to do

big thanks for any input you have

[NeedsToCut]

Sorry that is a horrible approach to weight loss, you'll be setting yourself up for failure just eat in a 500 calorie deficit and lift

[jkbboy85]

I would go maybe 750-1000 cals/day and utilize IF to not have rediculous hunger pangs. But 800 cals/day may be a 2000 cal deficit for you. Have you calculated your BMR or TDEE? with lifting and cardio, you may be looking at a 3000 cal/day deficit from TDEE. You would die. And I mean literally. But, you would give up long before that and just binge like all hell before your body let you die.

[JayRong]

i suggest you not go to such extremes. i have before and it was like hell. i got results but they didnt last as i binge ate my ass off once i got lean.

if you cant see yourself doing it in the long run, dont do it in the short.

[Serpentarius]

ITT: eating disorders general

[DyingAtheist]

I get the temptation to eat barely anything and hope the weight just falls off, but it's not sustainable long-term, and you'll lose energy and you won't hit your macros so you'll lose muscle and look like crap anyway.
Just eat at a 500 deficit, hell a 1000 deficit is doable for you no problem, you'll lose weight plenty fast.

[urukhai29]

ITT: eating disorders general

haha yes i have an eating disorder, i like to eat a lot of crap , but thats just about to change, no more icecream pizza, fried food and all that jaz , from now on im gonna eat healthy foods, so hopefully my eating "disorder" will get better xP

[bbsapphireee]

Why the sudden "omg gotta lose 60 pounds"? I love how its always the people who leave things last minute that want to try the most desperate ideas....

you said you're a former fit/active person... you should know what starving yourself will do to you and why its stupid.

Forget about whatever goal you've got or whoever you're trying to impress in 90 days, and aim for a healthier and slower change please.


edit: SIGH. but to answer your question, you'll probably lose 15-20 pounds real quick (water/fat/muscle the longer the diet lasts) and then plateau. Then what? You're going to either increase activity even more with only 800-1200 cals, or you gotta drop down to 600-1000 cals and you'll have successfully gone from one extreme eating disorder to the other end of an eating disorder!

[Cookezilla]

Youll lose your life. Thats what you'll lose. Think of the gains.

[urukhai29]

I get the temptation to eat barely anything and hope the weight just falls off, but it's not sustainable long-term, and you'll lose energy and you won't hit your macros so you'll lose muscle and look like crap anyway.
Just eat at a 500 deficit, hell a 1000 deficit is doable for you no problem, you'll lose weight plenty fast.

its not long term, is only 90 days to cut a junk of the fat, im gonna be lifting too you know squats rows, pull ups etc

maybe i can drop 40 lbs? woot woot, we'll see

[Wadecounty7]

its not long term, is only 90 days to cut a junk of the fat, im gonna be lifting too you know squats rows, pull ups etc

maybe i can drop 40 lbs? woot woot, we'll see

Its stupid because you have no plan to maintain after this. Lets say you make it (even though you likely won't), how in the world do you keep from ballooning up to what you were at before? You didn't learn how to eat properly, you starved yourself.

[DyingAtheist]

its not long term, is only 90 days to cut a junk of the fat, im gonna be lifting too you know squats rows, pull ups etc

maybe i can drop 40 lbs? woot woot, we'll see

What's lifting going to do when you're taking in practically no protein and won't be able to generate muscle growth or maintenance anyway?

Fat loss can not be a short term fix, what on earth is happening in 90 days that is so important that you'd rather subject yourself to a stupid diet rather than doing it in a sustainable and healthy manner?

[urukhai29]

here is a snapshot of my first healthy meal from last night, everything weighted and cals counted around 50 grams of prot and around 450 cals

contents


steam chicken breast
dried beans
sunflower seeds
assorted veggies
onions and mushrooms
cherries

preety healthy right?gonna be knocking down 2/3 plates of this for the next 90 days


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edit: for some reason the system doesnt allow me to post links, can anyone post it 4 me, is a pic of my meal 1 from yesterday

[MrM27]

I nominate you for the most idiotic idea of the month award.

Man what a terrible idea.

[bbsapphireee]

You seem pretty set on this so I won't say much more but...

Why lose weight in such a difficult caloric deficit which you will probably fail when you can obviously diet at 2k and most likely last longer with the diet and still enjoy life lol

[JMcC775]

Anyone else have a hard time believing people like this are serious?

[mediumraw]

If it took you 4 years to get fat, why do you think you can get thin so quickly?

This **** really grinds my gears. Heaven forbid you put in some time and effort to do things in a healthy manner. Don't you care about/respect your body?

This is a bad post and you should feel bad for posting it.

[mediumraw]

Anyone else have a hard time believing people like this are serious?

Probably a troll, but I see so much of this in real life that I'd believe it if it was serious.

[Electricheadd]

Goodbye sweet sweet erections......

[blackmath]

50lbs wouldn't be unrealistic in 3 months with the calories you'd be eating. you'll feel sick for the first couple of weeks at least, with intermittent bouts of nausea throughout. and forget about lifting weights, no way you'll have the energy for that. the most you'll be able to do is some walking. also there's the chance you could die, but whatever amirite

[Okapi]

I don't support this at all. If you don't want to take everyone's advice to keep you healthy, why post this crap?

It took you years to put the weight on, it's going to take more than 90 days to take it off. Negged.

[urukhai29]

I don't support this at all. If you don't want to take everyone's advice to keep you healthy, why post this crap?

It took you years to put the weight on, it's going to take more than 90 days to take it off. Negged.

of course is gonna take more than 90 days to take it off, but 90 days down the road I'm gonna be way ahead of other fatsos who only go with the idiotic 1lb/week lol

tomorrow im taking pics and posting it here in these thread for accountability and motivation

[urukhai29]

50lbs wouldn't be unrealistic in 3 months with the calories you'd be eating. you'll feel sick for the first couple of weeks at least, with intermittent bouts of nausea throughout. and forget about lifting weights, no way you'll have the energy for that. the most you'll be able to do is some walking. also there's the chance you could die, but whatever amirite

50 lbs would be SICK results, but it is what it is, I already started my lifting program 2 weeks ago

squats 4x8x135
pull ups 4x8x-140 lbs(counterweigts)
deadlifts 4x5x185
bench press 4x8x115

starting slow and building my strength slowly

[StevenRogers]

Prolly 50 lbs..... of muscle.

[urukhai29]

Goodbye sweet sweet erections......

whoah thats NOT GOOD, oh well theres always viagra to counteract i guess

last night I had some headaches before going to bed, but al least today im fine, little hungry but nothing crazy

[DyingAtheist]

of course is gonna take more than 90 days to take it off, but 90 days down the road I'm gonna be way ahead of other fatsos who only go with the idiotic 1lb/week lol

tomorrow im taking pics and posting it here in these thread for accountability and motivation

The other "fatsos" who try to lose weight at a reasonable pace and will actually keep it off AND retain muscle mass, two things you'll definitely struggle to do?

This thread is ludicrous, I really hope it's a joke.

[urukhai29]

Anyone else have a hard time believing people like this are serious?

do u wanna bet money on it? ill be logging in this thread every other day reporting weight loss and lifting numbers

tomorrow i will take pics(front and back) and I will be posting them here, Im dead serious about this

[Just1nn]

its not long term, is only 90 days to cut a junk of the fat, im gonna be lifting too you know squats rows, pull ups etc

maybe i can drop 40 lbs? woot woot, we'll see

There is no way that you could eat 800 cals a day and lift with heavy, complex movements (squats, rows, deads). If you're lucky, you'll just feel so bad you will skip it, and if you're unlucky, well, they will call an ambulance for you from the gym after you collapse.

[urukhai29]

Its stupid because you have no plan to maintain after this. Lets say you make it (even though you likely won't), how in the world do you keep from ballooning up to what you were at before? You didn't learn how to eat properly, you starved yourself.

very simple my 90 diet is gonna be 100% clean healthy foods , a ton of veggies, fruits , lean meats etc when im done 90 days my taste buds and my brainare gonna be rewired to enjoy those type of foods, this is like a shock therapy to get rid of my poor eating habbits

[Wadecounty7]

do u wanna bet money on it? ill be logging in this thread every other day reporting weight loss and lifting numbers

tomorrow i will take pics(front and back) and I will be posting them here, Im dead serious about this

Nobody cares if you're serious, you're doing it wrong. Like I said, lets say you make it through 90 days of this stupidity, then what? You have no gameplan. You don't understand how to eat right for the rest of your life. You only know how to purge to lose it, and binge to gain it, and you WILL binge sooner or later.

You think you're going to eat like this for the rest of your life? Eat like a normal human being, but less, and see long term sustainable results. Or eat like someone who randomly got motivated to do something but could never do it without that motivation, and watch yourself fall back to your old habits the second that motivation wanes.