Ask a guy who has been hooked up painkillers for nearly 7 years anything.

[jarryd2018]

No. They are everywhere, like I said mainly norcro, they are super easy to find. Your kidney will fail before you OD on vicodin.

That explains the functionality. Was starting my day with half an 80 and 4 ***** bars, would have another half and a few more ***** at lunch. Would munch on ***** until night then take down 2-3 more 80s before going to bed depending on if I was going out or not. Was drinking heavily then too and taking a lot of other stuff, Molly, acid, etc..

[extreme88]

I know how hard it is to quit. It took many attempts before I was able to do it myself. My tolerance was much higher than yours and my quality of life had severely declined due to my over usage. It didn't cost me too bad financially because I had a back injury and my doc gave me a pretty good supply, but it was destroying me nonetheless.

You should look to your family for support. I know it can be scary, but it will greatly benefit you to quit.

For me the quitting cycle went like this...
-Quit using
-8 hours later WD's start to set in
-physical symptoms for up to a week
- the next week I call the honey moon period, I am proud I quit and am finally bettering myself. Sadly this only lasts about a week
- 2-3 wks form when I quit I would be overcome with depression and relapse

This happened MANY times. I kept trying and one day it finally stuck. Keep your head up and find away out, even if it means taking time off from work or treatment.

congrats on quitting man.



OP bout how much money you spending per week?

[pitbull707]

what is lifting on them like?

can you lift harder because you don't feel pain?

This right here is what keeps me coming back. Using before the gym, as weird as it sounds, is my favorite thing in the whole world. I feel like it gives me extra strength to poush through those last few reps, gives me a positive outlook, and makes me confident as FUK. This is odd because these feels are usually associated with uppers. I get this from frickin vikes.

If I go to the gym and don't use before, I get bored, and don't seem to have as much energy. It's weird man.I've gone from 193-170 since the beginning of the year, and have used I think literally every gym session since. My lifts all went up except my bench which stayed the same (235 1rm.

Can't wait to be able to lift without having to use beforehand.

[extreme88]

That explains the functionality. Was starting my day with half an 80 and 4 ***** bars, would have another half and a few more ***** at lunch. Would munch on ***** until night then take down 2-3 more 80s before going to bed depending on if I was going out or not. Was drinking heavily then too and taking a lot of other stuff, Molly, acid, etc..

four bars(8mg)... to start your day? notsureifsrs...

[andrew28]

I'm a procrastinator. I keep putting and putting it off. I know it's awful. This is why I can't have nice things.

we all want you to make it brah

im a procrastinator with quitting weed (couple hits before bed). im not comparing the two in the slightest, but i understand not wanting to quit something that gives you instant gratification. your case is obviously wayyyy tougher. wishing you luck man.

[jarryd2018]

This right here is what keeps me coming back. Using before the gym, as weird as it sounds, is my favorite thing in the whole world. I feel like it gives me extra strength to poush through those last few reps, gives me a positive outlook, and makes me confident as FUK. This is odd because these feels are usually associated with uppers. I get this from frickin vikes.

If I go to the gym and don't use before, I get bored, and don't seem to have as much energy. It's weird man.I've gone from 193-170 since the beginning of the year, and have used I think literally every gym session since. My lifts all went up except my bench which stayed the same (235 1rm.

Can't wait to be able to lift without having to use beforehand.

I was 145 lbs when I quit using.

[andrew28]

four bars(8mg)... to start your day? notsureifsrs...

lol i'd be passed out for a day sraight at least

[chasintail]

That explains the functionality. Was starting my day with half an 80 and 4 ***** bars, would have another half and a few more ***** at lunch. Would munch on ***** until night then take down 2-3 more 80s before going to bed depending on if I was going out or not. Was drinking heavily then too and taking a lot of other stuff, Molly, acid, etc..

Do you even remember, brah?

[hostessfactory]

That explains the functionality. Was starting my day with half an 80 and 4 ***** bars, would have another half and a few more ***** at lunch. Would munch on ***** until night then take down 2-3 more 80s before going to bed depending on if I was going out or not. Was drinking heavily then too and taking a lot of other stuff, Molly, acid, etc..

I am so glad I never got hooked on *****, it made my friend a complete mess. I couldn't stand hanging out with him even if I was ****ed up.

congrats on quitting man.

Thank you, I still carry quite a bit of shame. I should have never let myself go.

[pitbull707]

why don't you seek help?

Out of sheer embarassment. Everyone thinks i'm kicking ass at life, and no one knows I have this problem. I have my own house, a great job, go to the gym 5 days a week, and have more friends than I could possibly need. It's like the pills make me the man I want to be. I used to bwe the quiet fat kid with no esteem, and morphed myself into the confident funny guy who hits the gym all the time and is always asked for tips to get in shape (avi is me 10-15 lbs heavier).

[Reveen]

if you do end up quitting, pepper your angus for PAWS (Post Acute Withdrawl Syndrome). Depression for months, sometimes years. Keep exercising and eating right and it will be so much smoother. Been there bro, don't numb yourself to life. I was just a shell of a person. No real emotions, just forced euphoria.

[jarryd2018]

four bars(8mg)... to start your day? notsureifsrs...

Dead srs. You build up tolerance fast. Had taken 8 at once before, and 20 in a day. That's when I knew it was bad.

[railgunner22]

what does the effect feel like

[jeflab]

op have you thought about using suboxone to quit? http://www.suboxone.com/

[extreme88]

lol i'd be passed out for a day sraight at least

same

Dead srs. You build up tolerance fast. Had taken 8 at once before, and 20 in a day. That's when I knew it was bad.

damn dude, i used to start off at 2-3 mg at most and by the end of the day it would be about 12mg and i thought that was a massive tolerance. are you clean now?

[Desabrah253]

op have you thought about using suboxone to quit? http://www.suboxone.com/

Please do not use bupe or methadone to quit. You will hate yourself

[lakerzfan07]

well sucks to be you op

[jasonjb]

IKt's pretty high. I've tried to stop so many times, that I've gone a week or two with none, more times than I can count. I used to get an awesome buzz on let's say 20mg hydrocodone, but now a similar buzz would warrant 50mg-60mg.... not easy on the wallet i'll tell you.



First vic given to me by my own mother when I complained about a toothache. It made me feel really good, and I would often ask her for more after making up certain aches and pains. Part of me hates her for getting me started, but the main part of me knew what I was getting into to and they were bad. While she shgould have steered me clear of pain pills, I knew damn well I shouldn't be taking them.

why would you hate her when you were the one making up things to get more

[jeflab]

Please do not use bupe or methadone to quit. You will hate yourself

what is bupe?

[extreme88]

Please do not use bupe or methadone to quit. You will hate yourself

This, you're just switching addiction.

[jon1995]

After 6-7 years? I expected much higher.

this


roll bread

[hostessfactory]

if you do end up quitting, pepper your angus for PAWS (Post Acute Withdrawl Syndrome). Depression for months, sometimes years. Keep exercising and eating right and it will be so much smoother. Been there bro, don't numb yourself to life. I was just a shell of a person. No real emotions, just forced euphoria.

PAWS is hard because your support (my family) doesn't fully understand. I don't have it too bad, but my step dad has been an alcoholic for 20 + years and keeps relapsing. I think he can't handle the PAWS.

Please do not use bupe or methadone to quit. You will hate yourself

I have a freind on subs, it beought him back to functioning, but he still uses them as a crutch.

[jon1995]

This, you're just switching addiction.

yeah..to get off a street drug you have to buy illegally for a much higher cost, its a step in the right direction

[pitbull707]

what does the effect feel like

It starts in my stomach. Like a hunger pain, that's when you know it's kicking in. That warm feeling spreads to your whole body, like a warm blanket on a cold night. Any pain you had is gone. I get a sudden burst of energy, and wanting to do something active (usually lift). I become very talkative, confident, and can get along with anyone. I feel like I am the alpha male, and no one is better than me. I have zero anxiety about anything, and feel like bishes are always mirin in me in the gym, and guys think i'm cool as fuk. It does not make me tired AT ALL until it wears off, but can I just redose to start it all over again.

Other people might explain it differently.

Without them, I am the person I used to be. Shy, self conscious, think Im some piece of chit. Unmotivated Always bored. It sucks. The physical withdrawals are easy as fuk for me to get passed, I just load up on immodium to stop me from getting the chits, and a few benzos to calm down my anxiety and restless legs. It's the mental part that makes me come back. I just don't know how to live life without them, it's like i'm a different person, and the pilld make me become the person I want to be (srs)

[BoiStory]

what is bupe?

suboxone

used to get high on that chit

[jon1995]

Please do not use bupe or methadone to quit. You will hate yourself

you don't know what your talking about

[pitbull707]

Please do not use bupe or methadone to quit. You will hate yourself

I used methadone before and I was so high, I thought I was going to die. It's still a drug that gets you high, and the withdrawals are more intense and longer lasting.

No thanks Jeff LOL

you don't know what your talking about

to be honest bro, I don't think you know what your talking about, from what you've posted ITT.

[InsertEstat]

get off them op. I used to be addicted to methadone and crack.

[steelnub]

lol @ weak willed *******s... opiates aren't even that fukkin addicting, i can use on one day off the next then quit for weeks without withdrawal or the slightest craving for anything

talking recreationally of course, they are def the best buzz

[extreme88]

yeah..to get off a street drug you have to buy illegally for a much higher cost, its a step in the right direction

i know what you mean, but it's still something that you'll be on for a long time and have to wean off of.