Aware me on Philosophy

[RonPaul2012]

I think I would be very intrigued by this subject. Haven't studied it or whatever. Haven't read any books either...

Took Sociology in College (first time learning about it). And it really captured me, especially Conflict Theory. But some don't think that subject is 'serious'. I am majoring in business maybe minoring in psychology, but it doesn't mean I can't be interest in other subjects. As a hobby or electives I would like to learn more about Philosophy (I think).

Some on here might know why this might be interesting to me...idk why I just like deep things that require critical thinking skills.

Any more info on this will be appreciated

Thanks

[Harbinger]

It's right up there with alchemy and astrology. It's served it's purpose but, it's useless now.

[boseador]

The first philosophical books I ever read were Plato's five dialogues; pheado, apology, crito, meno, euthiphro (spelling?)

Start with these, they are short and very beautifully written.

[RonPaul2012]

The first philosophical books I ever read were Plato's five dialogues; pheado, apology, crito, meno, euthiphro (spelling?)

Start with these, they are short and very beautifully written.

wasn't he a statist?

[IDrinkBloodLOL]

Start with classics.

Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, etc. Go from there.

[Philosophy is] right up there with alchemy and astrology. It's served it's purpose but, it's useless now.

> custom user title: "Stoic"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism

Good job, retarded uneducated ******* man

[BEATINGU]

I would recommend reading the work of Doctor.Ronald Paul. He is a brilliant philosopher. After you complete that then you must move on to Ayn Rand.

[lasher]

It's right up there with alchemy and astrology. It's served it's purpose but, it's useless now.

so, why are you a stoic then?


Edit: wizard ^

[boseador]

I also recommend Bertrand Russell's problems of philosophy.

[Harbinger]

so, why are you a stoic then?


Edit: wizard ^

sto·ic
/ˈstō-ik/
Noun
A person who can endure pain or hardship without showing their feelings or complaining.
Adjective
Of or belonging to the Stoics or their school of philosophy.
Synonyms
stoical

[lasher]

sto·ic
/ˈstō-ik/
Noun
A person who can endure pain or hardship without showing their feelings or complaining.
Adjective
Of or belonging to the Stoics or their school of philosophy.
Synonyms
stoical

uh huh. But you do realize stoicism is a philosophy right? You apparently don't find philosophy as useless as you suggest, considering that you follow one.

[Harbinger]

uh huh. But you do realize stoicism is a philosophy right? You apparently don't find philosophy as useless as you suggest, considering that you follow one.

Not letting things bother me, isn't following a philosophy.

[lasher]

Not letting things bother me, isn't following a philosophy.

lulz, but it is! If you in fact follow what stoicism teaches, if not, then you should reconsider your user title yo.

That's the philosophy of stoicism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism

[Harbinger]

lulz, but it is!

That's the philosophy of stoicism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism

I didn't/don't chose to not let things bother me they just don't, following would imply a conscious decision. I know what Stoicism is you can stop posting the link.

[lasher]

I didn't/don't chose to not let things bother me they just don't, following would imply a conscious decision. I know what Stoicism is you can stop posting the link.

Well I only posted the link once. And to be perfectly fair, you denigrate a philosophy while following one. It is a conscious decision not to let things bother you. Which is what you are doing. But it's also an entire philosophy. Stoicism. Which, since you take as you username, makes it deeply ironic that you laugh at philosophy.

[Harbinger]

It is a conscious decision not to let things bother you.

It's not though. If you have to decide not to let something bother then, it bothers you and you've chosen to suppress that.

[boseador]

So your rejection of Philosophy is a concious decision Harbinger?

[GreatOldOne]

I think I would be very intrigued by this subject. Haven't studied it or whatever. Haven't read any books either...

Took Sociology in College (first time learning about it). And it really captured me, especially Conflict Theory. But some don't think that subject is 'serious'. I am majoring in business maybe minoring in psychology, but it doesn't mean I can't be interest in other subjects. As a hobby or electives I would like to learn more about Philosophy (I think).

Some on here might know why this might be interesting to me...idk why I just like deep things that require critical thinking skills.

Any more info on this will be appreciated

Thanks

i'd say take a logic class if you could but i won't. to be honest it will just bore the absolute ****e out of you. not to say it's not absolute gold...but seriously...do the logic learning on your own time.

if you're in position to still take phil classes in college...well you will have to start with the intro/survey class as i'm sure that's going to be a prerequ for anything else. it's not bad. the gold will be in the breakout discussion groups which will be lead by phd candidates. hopefully you won't get an ******* but you might.

beyond that ordinary people might only take one more phil class 'on purpose'....don't take ethics. i've done the gamut and been thinking about it for a long time, and personally i think that would be a waste of your time. challenge yourself and take metaphysics, phil of mind, or phil of language (that's hard). phil of science or phil of social science are awesome but nobody normal will be taking them.

if your looking for some awesome intro books...honestly just go pick up the survey class book. that's where to go first...

[GreatOldOne]

Not letting things bother me, isn't following a philosophy.

it's a way of life.

[GreatOldOne]

So your rejection of Philosophy is a concious decision Harbinger?

I spent a long time yearning to find the limits of reason. Downside=there are limits. Upside=sportscenter is still good to watch.

It's not a useless endeavor though...it can easily show you what's wrong IMO. I'm not at all confident it can show you what is right or a 'right way to live'.

Stuff like cicero...'on the good life'. man that **** should be required reading just for practicality. it is gold. but that's not philosophy...that's rhretoric.

[IAMRED]

I would recommend reading the work of Doctor.Ronald Paul. He is a brilliant philosopher. After you complete that then you must move on to Ayn Rand.

And then you should move on to John Robbins' Without a Prayer, a book which eviscerates Objectivism and is endorsed by Ron Paul.

[GreatOldOne]

And then you should move on to John Robbins' Without a Prayer, a book which eviscerates Objectivism and is endorsed by Ron Paul.

how many 'lols' will fit through the internet. that is a true philosophical question.

[IAMRED]

I think I would be very intrigued by this subject. Haven't studied it or whatever. Haven't read any books either...

Took Sociology in College (first time learning about it). And it really captured me, especially Conflict Theory. But some don't think that subject is 'serious'. I am majoring in business maybe minoring in psychology, but it doesn't mean I can't be interest in other subjects. As a hobby or electives I would like to learn more about Philosophy (I think).

Some on here might know why this might be interesting to me...idk why I just like deep things that require critical thinking skills.

Any more info on this will be appreciated

Thanks

I'd recommend that you pick up Thales to Dewey. It's an excellent one volume history of philosophy.

[wings_unhinged]

Learn science, son.

[BTI]

Read the "God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. It's the best and only book you need to read regarding any philosophical matter. In fact, I've thrown all my other books away because they pale in comparison.

[lasher]

I'd recommend that you pick up Thales to Dewey. It's an excellent one volume history of philosophy.

I would have recommended that to a past generation. I don't think the current generation is ready for something more involved than "the complete idiots guide to philosophy".

[IAMRED]

I would have recommended that to a past generation. I don't think the current generation is ready for something more involved than "the complete idiots guide to philosophy".

Pessimist

[GreatOldOne]

'history of western philosphy' by bertrand russel is a good ****-side reader.

[lasher]

'history of western philosphy' by bertrand russel is a good ****-side reader.

And it definitely doesn't have a naturalistic bias or anything underlying its entire analysis of the history of philosophy

[Realism]

I would have recommended that to a past generation. I don't think the current generation is ready for something more involved than "the complete idiots guide to philosophy".

[GreatOldOne]

And it definitely doesn't have a naturalistic bias or anything underlying its entire analysis of the history of philosophy

well, it's not like i said he should read the bible or something like that...if you have some problems with that book though...maybe it'd make a good thread. i don't think it's that bad at all.