My theory on god. Do you agree?

[LurkingSince09]

I believe some being out there made the universe(what made the being? I don't know). The alternative is that the universe was just there. Which makes no sense. Everything has to have a creator. I believe that same being might have made the creatures who eventually engineered us. I don't, however, believe that there is an all seeing, all knowing god. It just seems too fantastical that there's a man in the sky who has nothing better to do than watch everybody's mundane daily lives.

[Tune5k]

brbusingimaginationsincenopicsofgod

[Cfitz717]

I believe there is a creator, but idk who. Hopefully its not one of the "mainstream" gods.

[builder95]

I don't know what I believe.

[Purplekoolaid]

I believe some being out there made the universe(what made the being? I don't know). The alternative is that the universe was just there. Which makes no sense. Everything has to have a creator. I believe that same being might have made the creatures who eventually engineered us. I don't, however, believe that there is an all seeing, all knowing god. It just seems too fantastical that there's a man in the sky who has nothing better to do than watch everybody's mundane daily lives.

This is a fuking retarded post. Just because your stupid ass brain can't comprehend how the universe started, based on your life experience with earth sized events (not microscopic or macroscopic (quantum effects and relativity)) (what our brains have evolved to understand), does not give your opinion based on nothing any merit whatsoever

[LurkingSince09]

I believe there is a creator, but idk who. Hopefully its not one of the "mainstream" gods.

I don't believe in those gods. We, human beings, created those gods, they're not real.

[metallicabrah]

prometheus is a true story

[LurkingSince09]

This is a fuking retarded post. Just because your stupid ass brain can't comprehend how the universe started, based on your life experience with earth sized events (not microscopic or macroscopic (quantum effects and relativity)) (what our brains have evolved to understand), does not give your opinion based on nothing any merit whatsoever

You want me to believe the universe was just there? Rather than insulting me, why don't you make a counterpoint and explain.

[OZchuck]

There is no creator.

If you think a creator made the big bang you need to read a full book on the concept and how people came up with the idea.

Theres maths involved. People didnt just sit around and say one day "Hey I bet there was a huge bang that started everything, since the universe is expanding."

[KyDrumGuns]

I see what you're saying.

Like I say every time the argument presents itself, there is no way of proving either way. Each individual person will either have faith or won't based on his own life experiences. The debate between atheists and those of religion is incredibly useless.

[AirJordanB]

We'll never know, brah. Even if future races are able to travel in or manipulate time, we'll never know what, if anything, was before the big bang, be it a deity or other universal collapse, etc. Believe what you'd like and don't let the opinion of anyone else sway you.

[KyDrumGuns]

There is no creator.

If you think a creator made the big bang you need to read a full book on the concept and how people came up with the idea.

Theres maths involved. People didnt just sit around and say one day "Hey I bet there was a huge bang that started everything, since the universe is expanding."

There's math involved in carpentry. You saying carpenters don't exist brah?

Not rustling jimmies, just replying for sake of provoking thought....

[II Cybershot II]

stopped reading at "I believe"

[ausurfer]

I believe the big bang made the universe(what made the big bang? I don't know). The alternative is that the universe was created by a mythical creature. Which makes no sense.

[IEatPowerRacks]

If you go under the premise that "everything has a creator," that would create an infinite regress... who created the Universe? God. okay, but who created God? A greater God... and so on. At some point, it seems you'd have to stop somewhere and say "this specific God has just always existed." But then it'd just be simpler to just say that Universe always existed.

[HankScorp1o]

This is a fuking retarded post. Just because your stupid ass brain can't comprehend how the universe started, based on your life experience with earth sized events (not microscopic or macroscopic (quantum effects and relativity)) (what our brains have evolved to understand), does not give your opinion based on nothing any merit whatsoever

Pretty much this.

[Cfitz717]

If a mainstream God is real, its the Christian one, imo.

Brb, once I started reading up on the Illuminati, Jesuits, Aleister Crowley, NWO, Freemasons, its quite obvious they worship a higher power. Most think it is Satan or Lucifer.


I dare you to do a weeks worth of research and still say that you're 100% certain there is no God.

Still, I hope there's not.

[Fuarkmyangus]

I'm an Agnostic Theist myself since we still don't have enough knowledge about the universe. Organized religion is comical tbh though

[nzgs]

False dichotomy. You ignore the most likely possibility; that the universe was created via natural processes analogous to the creation of complex life. Your "theory" has a load of unfounded assumptions in it and is inherently biased towards there being a creator. You aren't actually interested in the truth, you just want to validate your own superstitions.

[MrDrTyphen]

I believe if there is a god... he will have to beg my forgiveness.

[NickA44]

didn't read but I can only assume it makes as much sense as every other theory of god

[LurkingSince09]

We'll never know, brah. Even if future races are able to travel in or manipulate time, we'll never know what, if anything, was before the big bang, be it a deity or other universal collapse, etc. Believe what you'd like and don't let the opinion of anyone else sway you.

It's frustrating brah. I want to know. What made all this happen. What's the purpose of life? What's the point? I don't believe in heaven or hell. So I'm sitting here thinking, why do we do everything we do? We can work all our lives to achieve something, and we die. We might leave a legacy behind for our kids, but they'll die too. At the end, whatever we achieve, doesn't matter. It's depressing.

[Johnnyfalcon731]

I agree with you and your "alien" theory.. Someone somewhere down the line changed our DNA .. Therefore creating us..

[crupiea]

I think there are all sorts of lesser gods. Like bosses at work.

Think about it. if you want to call in sick or have a flat tire, you dont call the guy who created the company, you call your supervisor. They are in charge of a handful of people and report to other bosses.

Every aspect of society has this structure so we had to have gotten it from some place. Why would gods be any different?

This is why some people say they dont get their prays answered. Just like your boss has to deal with certain people more then others. Ever notice how that one girl can always come in late and they never say anything? same thing with gods.

Some people for whatever reason have their ear and other people dont.

[cresros]

what made the being? I don't know
Everything has to have a creator

so something made the creator, and someone made the creator's creator, and someone made the creator's creator's creator, and someone made the creator's creator's creator's creator....................... ?




yep, you can't use that logic to justify this, since there would be infinite creators.



both the argument that you defend and the argument that you think is not true would only be viable due to something us humans can't properly understand yet - infinity. Why would it be impossible to have a universe that is infinite in age, but having infinite creators is acceptable? Infinity is something that we don't really properly understand yet.


So yea, it doesn't make sense. That is, IF I UNDERSTOOD your point correctly.

[iceypain]

I don't think human reasoning will provide you with any definite answers. You're experiencing the universe through faculties of your mind that make you see things in terms of time, space and causal connections in the same way wearing blue glasses will make you see things with a blue hue. A priori knowledge (such as 1 + 1 = 2) about things in themselves cannot be reasoned.

edit: we have math because we are wired to think in terms of time and therefore numbers; we have geometry because we're wired to perceive the world through 3d lenses i.e. space and we have science based on a posteriori knowledge because we assume everything we observe has a cause and effect.

[PHXNick]

The alternative is that the universe was just there. Which makes no sense. Everything has to have a creator. .

This argument has never made any sense to me. Rather than accepting that the universe was there (which is an over-oversimplification), you introduce an all powerful, invisible being as the creator, and then just accept the fact that this being itself doesn't require a creator. So in the end you do accept the infinite nature of something, but you've decided to attribute it to this invisible, unknowable being rather than the visible and knowable (to some extent) universe.

[LurkingSince09]

False dichotomy. You ignore the most likely possibility; that the universe was created via natural processes analogous to the creation of complex life. Your "theory" has a load of unfounded assumptions in it and is inherently biased towards there being a creator. You aren't actually interested in the truth, you just want to validate your own superstitions.

That's not it. I'm not trying to validate my beliefs. I don't believe in a religion. I'm just confused about life and what it all means. Which ends up tying back to god and the universe and if our lives really matter.

[Mosho]

So let me get this straight, it makes no sense the universe was just there, but it makes sense that a bearded guy in the sky was just there? uwotm8

[OZchuck]

There's math involved in carpentry. You saying carpenters don't exist brah?

Not rustling jimmies, just replying for sake of provoking thought....

If you can say what you've said, then you need a more robust understanding of the concept.
It's not a partial thing that works well in analogy, because the concept is arrived at in so complicated a way, you can't just attack the analogy to disprove the idea.

Much like how people will use overly simple analogies for evolution, attack the analogy and then claim evolution is false... its a fallacy.

People used to do the same thing for the world being round, gravity being a consistent force, germ theory and mendels laws.