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    Originally Posted by Bronzzi View Post
    Recomping is pretty much waste of time, I wasted over 1 year doing so. I didn't look any better and may have gained +2.5kg in every lift. Not worth it imo unless you're 225lb shredded with abs haha

    Bulking and gaining strength is the way to go! Minicuts here and there could also be beneficial and much needed, especially since it's almost beach-time here as well

    Hope you're doing well Mike
    Not sure if it's accurate right now, but 6'1" 148lbs is no place to be recomping anyway.

    Keep slowly adding weight, Mike. Sometimes you have to look not so shredded to get to where you want to go.
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    Originally Posted by sonnydfrizzy View Post
    I like what I see in here Mike! And in regards to your crazy weight fluctuations.. During the last few weeks of school and inconsistent sleep and a lot of stress my weight was all over the place.. I finished finals, cortisol levels fell, felt mentally "free," and weight stabilized and whooshed down. I bet once you get through graduation you will see your weight stabilize and even drop a bit.

    Also, the more I read into the literature, the more I become a believer of recomping or "gaintaining." Increase your lifts while maintaining BW and leaning out during the summer. 3 months of recomping would probably serve you well if you wanted to give it a try. Albeit it is a slower process than cutting, you would still be able to increase LBM and your lifts. You might have to cut volume, but focus more on strength progression and you would see some WILD gains in your compounds. Just my .02 cents though.

    Hahaha that video is hilarious dude.

    *edit: the more I think about it... Have you ever considered just eating based on appetite, energy, mirror, and performance? I think coming from having an eating disorder and putting your body in a compromised state... This would do you good.. Your body would level off at its set point and homeostasis and you would be able to 100% auto regulate. I know my best gains and mood and sleep and energy have come from my last couple months of just eating and training. While I do have crappy lifting days, it's because I deadlift and squat hard and then come in the next day expecting to feel 100% recovered lol I think if you gave up calorie counting and just ate! it would do your mind and body a lot of good... And it could finally 100% recover from the hell you put it through.
    ^My summer is going to be quite relaxed in regards to eating and training. Not much going on besides an internship and perhaps a part time job. I think the recomping idea is too slow in naturals imo unless you goal is just to maintain the muscle mass you have at the moment. Not to mention, it's tough to keep up with the cals and keep them dialed in. I think you need to choose on direction or the other and not get crazy with it. Slow and steady always wins the race.

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    120 reps on rear delt fly holy moly
    I enjoy high rep rear delts quite a bit. There a small muscle group but I find that they respond better to higher rep sets - 4x30 in this case.

    Originally Posted by Bronzzi View Post
    Recomping is pretty much waste of time, I wasted over 1 year doing so. I didn't look any better and may have gained +2.5kg in every lift. Not worth it imo unless you're 225lb shredded with abs haha

    Bulking and gaining strength is the way to go! Minicuts here and there could also be beneficial and much needed, especially since it's almost beach-time here as well

    Hope you're doing well Mike
    ^Agreed on all accounts. 225 with abs. Soon.

    Brbinmydreams. haha

    Originally Posted by Reid456 View Post
    Not sure if it's accurate right now, but 6'1" 148lbs is no place to be recomping anyway.

    Keep slowly adding weight, Mike. Sometimes you have to look not so shredded to get to where you want to go.
    ^Torn, so torn...
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    Trust me, in the long term it will be better. If looking good is a goal for you, or strength.
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    Mike if you're thinking about cutting you will rustle my jim jams.... the gains! think about the gains!
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    Originally Posted by Reko1993 View Post
    Not sure if actually considering cutting. I don't want to have to induct another member into my wheel-spinners crew
    lmao.

    seriously though mike based on your recent pics, you are far from not being lean man. Not even saying that to be nice or because you have a history of an ED, if you looked like a tub of lard I'd tell you to cut.
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    Originally Posted by Reid456 View Post
    Trust me, in the long term it will be better. If looking good is a goal for you, or strength.
    Originally Posted by Reko1993 View Post
    Not sure if actually considering cutting. I don't want to have to induct another member into my wheel-spinners crew
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    Mike if you're thinking about cutting you will rustle my jim jams.... the gains! think about the gains!
    Originally Posted by Prednisone666 View Post
    lmao.

    seriously though mike based on your recent pics, you are far from not being lean man. Not even saying that to be nice or because you have a history of an ED, if you looked like a tub of lard I'd tell you to cut.
    Yeah, I dunno right now, just in a funk like I said above. I have alot of things to think over and I'm not really sure what's going to happen for the time being...
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    Mmmmm that deadlift form. Looks damn good
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    Much better at keeping that chest up, do you feel like your shoulders linger over the bar or are rolled forward?
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    Really enjoy your cues/tips
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    Originally Posted by hostelmaniac View Post
    Mmmmm that deadlift form. Looks damn good
    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Much better at keeping that chest up, do you feel like your shoulders linger over the bar or are rolled forward?
    ^Thanks guys.

    No, not at all. If anything, one of my main cues is to "pull the bar into myself" by externally rotating @ my shoulders and firing my lats hard to get my shoulders packed and right over the bar.
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    ^Stupid camera said it ran out of memory after the 4th rep...
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    If you feel your low back get "pumped" doing squats or deadlifts, you likely have a core stability issue because your erectors are doing the job for your glutes. Get the glutes active first, then work on phasing them into compound movements. Don't try to run before you can even crawl.
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    -Been pretty busy with graduation, training, writing, studying, and going out with friends until all hours of the morning. haha Haven't been around much but life is going great and training picked back up right where I left off. ^That was yesterday's lift but CNS and legs are destroyed today, rolling and resting all day long. haha
    -Couple of side notes:
    1. Got an iPhone for graduation so I'll throw up some more videos from now on along with some mobility stuff since that's what a few people have asked for.
    2. Was messing around on sunday just doing some jump rope and bodyweight stuff while talking to my dad about graduation and jobs and decided to try out some pistol squats to see how they were progressing (they're one of my goals for 2014). To my complete surprise, I hit full reps on both legs without an issue, I was totally shocked but really happy since I couldn't do them a month ago. I think the ATG pause squats have made a huge difference to my strength in deep hip flexion. I'll take a video of them once my legs become functional again after that^ session. haha
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    Heavy, high volume squats...I would be fried as well haha.

    Not much to say about your training but good luck with your graduation and festivities. Stay safe brah.
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    Your last two cues/tips have hit me right in the feels...

    brb pissening lower backs pumps from squats and deads....


    brb have trouble squatting with only the bar on my back
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    ^I know there's quite a few people on here that utilize swings and this video is an excellent resource if you want to learn how to refine your technique and ensure you're not compensating and activating the correct muscles.

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    Never underestimate the power of self-efficacy. Convincing yourself in your mind that you can do something is step #1 before you even pick up the bar or the dumbbell. Strong mind = strong body.
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    • Band Pull-apart Series
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    Heavy, high volume squats...I would be fried as well haha.

    Not much to say about your training but good luck with your graduation and festivities. Stay safe brah.
    My squats really felt in the groove, very happy with the way they felt. My estimate 1-RM is ~240 from that set but I doubt I'd get that given the fact I haven't even had 225 on my back...yet.

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    Your last two cues/tips have hit me right in the feels...

    brb pissening lower backs pumps from squats and deads....

    brb have trouble squatting with only the bar on my back
    Haha they weren't directed at you, just things that came to mind when I was writing my lift for the day. What are you doing to improve your glute activation PREwo and what sort of squat-focused mobility work are doing for the other issue?
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    Have you posted any current (or relatively current) physique/progress photos?
    Not sure if I've missed them, and would be interested to see where you're at.
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    Originally Posted by InItForFitness View Post
    Have you posted any current (or relatively current) physique/progress photos?
    Not sure if I've missed them, and would be interested to see where you're at.
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    Haha they weren't directed at you, just things that came to mind when I was writing my lift for the day. What are you doing to improve your glute activation PREwo and what sort of squat-focused mobility work are doing for the other issue?
    I know they weren't directed at me, was just stating that they pertained perfectly to me haha. Glute activation PREwo, nothing, what do you recommend? For my mobility work im doing basically everything i see bryce lewis and matt ogus do.
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    You cutting now? Das it! Great to see pressing PR's during cut! That's like absolutely straight up pissening mate! Curious to hear tho, how did you transitioned into your cut and what were your bulk calories and did you dropped them slowly and what are your calories now? And for long have you been cutting and what's the weight loss / current weight like? Getting shredded for summer sounds terribly appealing haha
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    He's cutting? :/
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    Originally Posted by InItForFitness View Post
    He's cutting? :/
    Not sure, I hope not, he's already lean!
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    You cutting now? Das it! Great to see
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    What world do you live in?
    Finish my sentence m8!
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Whats weight?
    Bouncing around 2-3lbs from 185.

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    I know they weren't directed at me I was just stating that they pertained perfectly to me haha. Glute activation PREwo, nothing, what do you recommend? For my mobility work im doing basically everything i see bryce lewis and matt ogus do.
    Bryce Lewis has some excellent stuff on mobility, I would definitely seek out his work. For preWO, I would include glute bridge variations:



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    You cutting now? Das it! Great to see pressing PR's during cut! That's like absolutely straight up pissening mate! Curious to hear tho, how did you transitioned into your cut and what were your bulk calories and did you dropped them slowly and what are your calories now? And for long have you been cutting and what's the weight loss / current weight like? Getting shredded for summer sounds terribly appealing haha
    Just dropped calories a bit by about 300-400, still remaining flexible. Just a short one until I go to the beach and then things will ramp back up again if I feel comfortable with my physique at that point. I'm done logging to please others or be influenced by everyone else's opinions. I've got healthy and have a much better head on my shoulders so now I'm going to do what makes me feel comfortable in my own skin. Granted my overarching goal is to continue to get larger and stronger but within that goal there are as mini "check points" like the one I'm experiencing now. I'm going by the mirror, not by the scale so in the end as long as my energy and lifts keep up, that's what matters, not the # on the scale.
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    Originally Posted by MikeWines View Post
    Just dropped calories a bit by about 300-400, still remaining flexible. Just a short one until I go to the beach and then things will ramp back up again if I feel comfortable with my physique at that point. I'm done logging to please others or be influenced by everyone else's opinions. I've got healthy and have a much better head on my shoulders so now I'm going to do what makes me feel comfortable in my own skin. Granted my overarching goal is to continue to get larger and stronger but within that goal there are as mini "check points" like the one I'm experiencing now. I'm going by the mirror, not by the scale so in the end as long as my energy and lifts keep up, that's what matters, not the # on the scale.
    Good to hear! I was also considering mini-cut for this oncoming beach season. I was thinking maybe do aggressive extreme deficit 2 week minicut and my plan was to just go and lift fullbody and maintain my lifts but I'll see if it's worth it and needed. I agree that you can't just bulk slowly to your max. These check points are much needed and if you'll able to bust PR's during cut it's even better! All good to you man! Hoping to see post cut photos as well
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    Originally Posted by MikeWines View Post
    Granted my overarching goal is to continue to get larger and stronger but within that goal there are as mini "check points" like the one I'm experiencing now. I'm going by the mirror, not by the scale .
    Then post a picture.
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    Originally Posted by Bronzzi View Post
    Good to hear! I was also considering mini-cut for this oncoming beach season. I was thinking maybe do aggressive extreme deficit 2 week minicut and my plan was to just go and lift fullbody and maintain my lifts but I'll see if it's worth it and needed. I agree that you can't just bulk slowly to your max. These check points are much needed and if you'll able to bust PR's during cut it's even better! All good to you man! Hoping to see post cut photos as well
    That sounds like an awful idea...You're not in anywhere near the same position as me so I would not recommend that at all. Not to mention taking things to the extreme is the absolute worst way to do things^...

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    Then post a picture.
    I just did like 2 weeks ago, there isn't going to be much difference at all.
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    Originally Posted by MikeWines View Post
    That sounds like an awful idea...You're not in anywhere near the same position as me so I would not recommend that at all. Not to mention taking things to the extreme is the absolute worst way to do things^...
    Haha, well maybe Do you have WhatsApp? Send me your number PM and I'll send you my nudes (current relaxed photo) Maybe the long road wins the battle tho
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