**OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread- Part -VI-

[ApolloD]

How many traders here are Aussie? Or is there a separate thread for the Aussie market ??

[arem20]

That's only true with short-term trading. Investing is not zero-sum. That's part of the reason I prefer investing - I'd rather swim with the current than against it.

Options are zero sum (or negative sum). But yes, assuming future economic expansion, investing is not a zero sum game.

[DavidJr74]

So I have ETFs in America, Middle East (concentration on Qatar and *****), and Europe. Any other ETFs you guys would recommend looking into? I'm glad to be 25% seperated upon these 4 and feel much more at ease now going this route then picking my own stocks until I gain much more experience....I haven't done much research into world markets. If I recall correctly Japan is not suppose to be doing so well but other asian countries like singapore and south korea have more upside?

[HotBiscuits]

How many traders here are Aussie? Or is there a separate thread for the Aussie market ??

myself and camdls1 are australian

[fuuuu123]

just entered my first live forex trade, in aud/jpy, definitely feels weird

[kruser495]

just entered my first live forex trade, in aud/jpy, definitely feels weird

inb4 fuuu loses it all. jk good luck

[Barn01]

I guarantee she makes no more than $60k as an escort. Rather pathetic!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1056452061
Turns out NakedPut is 24 with a really $hitty grill. Her smile is rather pathetic.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1057729511
She has a piss poor GPA but she makes up for that by trading natty gas futures and raking in $70k/year.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...91&pagenumber=
Despite making less than $60k hooking and $70k trading futures the summer doesn't look so bright for her. When she serves your meal please tip generously, she was unable to secure an internship. Rather pathetic.

+1 LOL ... oh my pathetic

just entered my first live forex trade, in aud/jpy, definitely feels weird

Blowup in 5..4..3..2.. ?

srs, good luck

[ApolloD]

myself and camdls1 are australian

Trading on NASDAQ?


How's the profiT?

[mcichocki]

just entered my first live forex trade, in aud/jpy, definitely feels weird

Funny how it feels different when it's real money and real risk huh?
Good luck with the trade, stick to your protocol and plot an honest baseline so you know if you need to modify or not.

[snizzle77]

hey guise I have a basic question, if someone could explain this quickly.

What is the difference between the regular futures values and the futures fair values?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/17689937

bumping my Q






and very excited to see what AAPL's ios7 will bring...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...evamped-icons/

[GabrielNovar]

Watching V for a breakout, it took months for it to happen last time so not sure on the time frame. Above 182.50 and it should rocket.


Still think markets might test that 1600 level again or close just to confirm we have the power to move up.


edit: Visa loves me after my weekend in vegas, no wonder why they do so forking well.

[KevVandersloot]

DBJP looking good, stochastic back above 20. I'm back in.

[arem20]

I'm wrapping up my most recent focus and was wondering if we have anyone that considers themselves a "China Expert" and has any books to suggest or websites/blogs (no not muddy waters)

[fuuuu123]

Funny how it feels different when it's real money and real risk huh?
Good luck with the trade, stick to your protocol and plot an honest baseline so you know if you need to modify or not.

I still trade the exact same way, placing a stop and limit and letting it do its work but definitely more anxious and excited.

[kruser495]

DBJP looking good, stochastic back above 20. I'm back in.

so you just made a trade based on a stochastic?

[GabrielNovar]

so you just made a trade based on a stochastic?

I do...that how I hit some nice moves in Visa/MA/HD

edit: go back on MA chart for 9 months, if you bought when it dipped under 30 you had pretty much a 100% chance of making money within 1-2 months. Now run a call spread and you got a 200-500% gain within a month.

Rinse/repeat with v/ma and you don't have to work for 4-5 years

[MdavisUSF]

I do...that how I hit some nice moves in Visa/MA/HD

edit: go back on MA chart for 9 months, if you bought when it dipped under 30 you had pretty much a 100% chance of making money within 1-2 months. Now run a call spread and you got a 200-500% gain within a month.

Rinse/repeat with v/ma and you don't have to work for 4-5 years

Is that your only indicator? Would rep you but it wont let me. Are you using the standard parameters for the stochastic or did you modify it for your own personal touch?

[kruser495]

I do...that how I hit some nice moves in Visa/MA/HD

edit: go back on MA chart for 9 months, if you bought when it dipped under 30 you had pretty much a 100% chance of making money within 1-2 months. Now run a call spread and you got a 200-500% gain within a month.

Rinse/repeat with v/ma and you don't have to work for 4-5 years

no thanks jeff. ill stick to my analysis

[binks09]

Those feels when your brokerage account is all green

XONE +6.09% on day
MM +5.54%
SEAS +0.35%
RDN +4.50%

[GabrielNovar]

Is that your only indicator? Would rep you but it wont let me. Are you using the standard parameters for the stochastic or did you modify it for your own personal touch?

Standard parameters, but I combine that with the A/D line/MACD crossover and I use marketsmith to validate my pivots/sell/buy areas.

Also I only "trade" V/MA/SBUX/BLK/GOOG/PCLN....they have been proven to me. Where is fail is shorting/buying puts. Never really worked out for me.

so if I post I bought a put spread don't follow me into it lol

edit: example check my earlier post V looked prime for an upside breakout and so far it appears to be doing ok

no thanks jeff. ill stick to my analysis

Yea everyone has their own style/trading as long as it works great. I was getting too complicated in my analysis, I just keep it as simple as possible.

[kruser495]

Standard parameters, but I combine that with the A/D line/MACD crossover and I use marketsmith to validate my pivots/sell/buy areas.

Also I only "trade" V/MA/SBUX/BLK/GOOG/PCLN....they have been proven to me. Where is fail is shorting/buying puts. Never really worked out for me.

so if I post I bought a put spread don't follow me into it lol

edit: example check my earlier post V looked prime for an upside breakout and so far it appears to be doing ok

Yea everyone has their own style/trading as long as it works great. I was getting too complicated in my analysis, I just keep it as simple as possible.

i only use volume. thats it. i just read the charts and trade.

[badbart]

Anyone here only trade etfs? I was back testing my trading system and it seems to work just as well or better trading the SSO 2X S&P500 ETF. I usually trade the IBD 50 but it looks like trading the SSO is a better choice, less turn over, less commission and most likely better performance.

[MdavisUSF]

Anyone here only trade etfs? I was back testing my trading system and it seems to work just as well or better trading the SSO 2X S&P500 ETF. I usually trade the IBD 50 but it looks like trading the SSO is a better choice, less turn over, less commission and most likely better performance.

I was trading the 3x SP500 etfs for a little bit about 3 weeks, I couldn't take the swings you may have a better feel for it than I do though, I pretty much broke even after all was said and done. make sure you are using your system on the underlying index and not the ticker you are using.

[badbart]

I was trading the 3x SP500 etfs for a little bit about 3 weeks, I couldn't take the swings you may have a better feel for it than I do though, I pretty much broke even after all was said and done. make sure you are using your system on the underlying index and not the ticker you are using.

3x is a bitch, it back test worst then the 2x. Time decay on the 2x doesn't seem too bad, seems a lot more suited for longer trades.

[MdavisUSF]

So I have ETFs in America, Middle East (concentration on Qatar and *****), and Europe. Any other ETFs you guys would recommend looking into? I'm glad to be 25% seperated upon these 4 and feel much more at ease now going this route then picking my own stocks until I gain much more experience....I haven't done much research into world markets. If I recall correctly Japan is not suppose to be doing so well but other asian countries like singapore and south korea have more upside?

Good luck, my only concern on this would be that you are buying in when they are all very high, I know you are a buy and hold but dont be afraid to sell and buyback when you see your profits slipping.

Best advice I can give oyu is get out of USAA for investing! You wont find anyone out there that S's the D of USAA more than me, Ive been a member literally since the day I was born (dad was AF), I have my insurance, and every possible form of my financials (credit, check, savings) are with them with the exception of investments. What broke me from them was finding out they didn't have trailing stops. I went to share builder, was very happy with them, until I got pegged with pattern day trading and it really took wind out of my sails. Now I am with Interactive brokers, a tough user interface to get the hang of but I like it so far (lol but I haven't gotten my first bill yet so ill withhold judgement.

[KevVandersloot]

so you just made a trade based on a stochastic?

Lol good try brah. It's just one variable of many when looking at a stock. I know you're one of those fundamentals guys, but i'm not hatin' on how u trade, ya dig?

You make $ doing it your way, and I make $ doing it mine. It's all good.

Edit: Just saw where u said u look @ charts and trade. Nonetheless it's all good.

[kruser495]

Lol good try brah. It's just one variable of many when looking at a stock. I know you're one of those fundamentals guys, but i'm not hatin' on how u trade, ya dig?

You make $ doing it your way, and I make $ doing it mine. It's all good.

Edit: Just saw where u said u look @ charts and trade. Nonetheless it's all good.

see my previous posts on 47. not to much fundamentals go into intraday futures trading. i dont use any indicators.

i was asking whether he looked at that alone. as that would be foolish on determining an entry point.

[blinkers88]

some interesting charts if anyone cares: AVNR ENVI ZIOP RSOL IMMU SURG KNDI RIGL

[xerik126x]

Also posted on the Penny Stock Thread if anybody is trading FNMA:

Interesting articles came out for FNMA after hours including a $41 billion dollar lawsuit against the US government for screwing shareholders in 2008:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-takeover.html

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...dot-takeover-1

Judging by some of the buys I've seen the past week or two (100,000+ shares) could be awesome news.

[Come at me bro]

Anyone see the new android oops I mean iOS 7

Looking into buying a put with a exp towards eoy