Feds want to lower DUI standard.

[Beiberhole]

lol so ****ing hard and the person that negged me for my opinion with the comment "deeper into the red you go"

YOU GAVE ME A GRAY SQUARE, LMAO

[Sakeoe]

In before all the Misc DUI *******s that claim they can drive just fine when intoxicated.

Lol posted this and right after all the DUI *******s came in claiming exactly that.

You guys are ticking time bombs waiting to murder innocent people. Please don't drive even if you had just 1 beer and think you are such a amazing driver.

[sellerstaylor]

IMO you should permanently lose your license on your first DUI. You could fcuking kill someone.

I forget specifically which countries, but many have worse punishment. I believe the UK = 1-2yrs work release or something. Turkey = walking barefoot 20mi thru desert. Ecuador= execution on the spot....

Now in California if u get Even one dui, u have to drive with a license plate that labels u as a drunk driver.

[Archangel_Lost]

lolwut. not trying to defend dui, but the limit being around 2 beers seems fine as it is. I don't wanna have some nyquil then get my anus unpeppered by a DUI

[Deceus]

Lol posted this and right after all the DUI *******s came in claiming exactly that.

You guys are ticking time bombs waiting to murder innocent people. Please don't drive even if you had just 1 beer and think you are such a amazing driver.

LOL Im all for being against drinking and driving because it is stupid as hell, but one beer LOL plz go. Maybe if it's your first beer ever ... and you just came out of 10 years in a PoW camp.

[MehAesthetics]

On a related note, my friend got a DUI after picking me up last year. He was 16 lol.

[SoberToaster]

if it's such a problem then why just slap drunk drivers on the wrist and give them a fine etc
screw up multiple times you get party plates etc. the whole system right now is EXTREMELY lenient and kind of a joke, people still drunk drive because they can afford to.

you bet your ass it would cut drunk driving by a **** ton if you straight went to jail for a few months for doing it.

[sellerstaylor]

Thats my point brah. I know a guy that gets sht hammered and drives constantly. I mean fukked up, amazing that he doesnt crash into sht, hammered. Had a couple DUI's and continues to do it anyway. I've since stopped inviting him out/over and cut off all contact with him, but he didnt give one fuk about the law. No way is he going to drink less because they lowered it to .05

I hope you learned your lesson (srs). Sounds like you did.

Oooh yeah, I definitely did. I'm glad it happened tho, otherwise like I said earlier, I could've seriously hurt or even killed someone ...if I'm ever out with friends ill always b dd cos I don't wanna rely on somebody else then they decide to have just one...and one more....amd o ne last one....etc

[Sakeoe]

LOL Im all for being against drinking and driving because it is stupid as hell, but one beer LOL plz go. Maybe if it's your first beer ever ... and you just came out of 10 years in a PoW camp.

Point in case.

[PhrygianLydian]

Point in case.

Age: 20

[Fitzwell]

Some states already have it at .04. Little ridiculous IMO that is like 2 beers in an hour. Makes it so you can barely go out.

[Deceus]

Point in case.

You do realize your body metabolizes alcohol, right?

[YIAMSOMEBODY]

You pussies shouldn't be drinking and driving anyway. Stop crying you hoes.

[AuDre11]

If anything they should up the legal limit to .10 and increase the punishment vastly.


-Would lower the DUI offenses for ppl that were just at the limit and who were driving fine
-would punish harshly the ppl that were acting reckless by driving at like .15 or above
-would deter ppl from driving with anything more than 2-3 beers as they know if they get caught they are fuked.

BRB lower DUI cases, but increase ppl learning their lesson and never driving drunk again.

[ryan36_1]

I don't see the problem with this recommendation.

Raise your hand if you can accurately tell if you are .06 or .08 BAC.

Really wish texting laws were more strongly enforced too. Its not even a primary offense in some states.

Posters do have a point that drowsy driving is probably as if not more dangerous than .05, but there isn't much that can be done to enforce that law, so it's a moot point.

[V10Kyle]

I'm pretty sure you can blow a .05 after gurgling mouthwash.

[Deceus]

I don't see the problem with this recommendation.

Raise your hand if you can accurately tell if you are .06 or .08 BAC.

Really wish texting laws were more strongly enforced too. Its not even a primary offense in some states.

Posters do have a point that drowsy driving is probably as if not more dangerous than .05, but there isn't much that can be done to enforce that law, so it's a moot point.

This is kind of why I don't really want to see something like this happen. This literally does nothing except catch a few more of those unfortunate people who just had 3-4 beers over a few hours and decided to drive home. I just can't really see someone swerving into oncoming traffic and plowing into someone after 2 fukin beers.

[s2pid]

first thing I want to address is that you should not be drinking and driving.

second thing is that if you are pulled over for drinking and driving tell the cop you do not want to contract with them and ask who the injured party is. there will be none. do not give them a drivers license or insurance and if they say they are taking you to jail tell them your fee is $100,000 per hour or part thereof for you to comply with his request (even though you're under duress). otherwise it would be kidnapping because the officer has no jurisdiction over you because you refused to contract.

[chevy72blu]

I don't see the problem with this recommendation.

Raise your hand if you can accurately tell if you are .06 or .08 BAC.

Really wish texting laws were more strongly enforced too. Its not even a primary offense in some states.

Posters do have a point that drowsy driving is probably as if not more dangerous than .05, but there isn't much that can be done to enforce that law, so it's a moot point.

As I've said in these thread today, cops rarely see any observable behavior below .08-.10. That is why so few DUIs are given for BAC's that low. Its nearly always the .15-.20 and higher that get busted.

The only people who will be caught by this are during fishing expeditions (illegal checkpoints, license plate lamp out, etc).

As for drowsy driving, where are the lobbies funneling millions into govt and PSAs? Oh wait, its not about safety to begin with. Its about $$. Shocking.


Again, I never drive after drinking FFS. The lack of logic just rustles my johnsons

[unemploymentlin]

lol at butt hurt alcoholics

coming from the guy who negged me and told me to kill myself

only butthurt person in here is you

[FatWhiteKid]

This is an absolute joke. .05 is literally 1 can of beer for almost all Men. But then again, they don't give a **** about actually keeping us safe from this they are just out to make $$$

[unemploymentlin]

they don't give a **** about actually keeping us safe

having dennis rodman and john kerry be mouthpieces for the united states just proves how unsafe america is


one is a basketball player and the other well,you can thank the swiftboat veterens for exposing how big of a pussy john kerry is

[ryan36_1]

As I've said in these thread today, cops rarely see any observable behavior below .08-.10. That is why so few DUIs are given for BAC's that low. Its nearly always the .15-.20 and higher that get busted.

The only people who will be caught by this are during fishing expeditions (illegal checkpoints, license plate lamp out, etc).

As for drowsy driving, where are the lobbies funneling millions into govt and PSAs? Oh wait, its not about safety to begin with. Its about $$. Shocking.


Again, I never drive after drinking FFS. The lack of logic just rustles my johnsons

Despite the lack of observable behavior, there is plenty of evidence that motor functions are impaired before you get to .08.

Yeah, this law wouldn't stop the dumbasses who will drive no matter what, but it would reduce the 'I'm ok, I just had a few' drivers, which is a risky bet and would increase safety.

Back to the drowsy driving, even if there was billions in lobbying on the issue, what can be done about it ? My point is that it is dangerous, but we don't have the means to enforce any law regarding it.

I don't think that we are on different sides of the issue, you are just a little more cynical than I am. (and trust me, I don't think that the government always has our best interest in mind - just that this issue would have safety benefit and is not just a move to increase revenues to the states)

[unemploymentlin]

Yeah, this law wouldn't stop the dumbasses who will drive no matter what.

just like how gun control didnt stop the criminals who would do shootings.to bad this is america and the responsible people get the shaft because of the people who arent responsible(because at the end of the day,the drunk drivers will still drive drunk regardless what the dui limit is.so we can all have fun with more laws that screw over the responsible people)

[FatWhiteKid]

if it's such a problem then why just slap drunk drivers on the wrist and give them a fine etc
screw up multiple times you get party plates etc. the whole system right now is EXTREMELY lenient and kind of a joke, people still drunk drive because they can afford to.

you bet your ass it would cut drunk driving by a **** ton if you straight went to jail for a few months for doing it.

Obviously you know nothing about what's involved in getting a DUI. I just got a DUI (blew .10) so I'll tell you what to expect. No license for 6 months (or more depending if you blow over .17), DUI charge is $500 fine (could be more in other places), the COURT COSTS are $200 more (Per ticket, I got paraphernalia too so that was $200 x 2), Attorneys are about $2,000 to help you through this situation, I've had 5 driving privileged sheets printed out so $20 x 5 = $100. DUI classes (which is the optional choice as opposed to paying $60 a day to sit in jail for 3 days) are $400. License reinstatement is $425. I think I'm sitting at about $4,000 spent at this point. Not to mention the fact that you look like a piece of **** in front of your parents and other peers, need to bum rides to get ANYWHERE (my friends are annoyed as fuk coming to pick me up all the time, only been 3 months of no license 3 to go), and this mark on my record could cost me a lot of opportunities down the road. After having gone through this, I'd say the punishment is overly severe in some cases (like mine). If you blow over a .17 you get it even worse, and if you get 2 DUI's within 5 years I think? You also get it even worse.

[ryan36_1]

just like how gun control didnt stop the criminals who would do shootings.to bad this is america and the responsible people get the shaft because of the people who arent responsible(because at the end of the day,the drunk drivers will still drive drunk regardless what the dui limit is.so we can all have fun with more laws that screw over the responsible people)

Strong anarchist is strong

[meatandmead]

Why would you make a law to target people in the .05-.07 range? This will do nothing about somebody who is going to drive a .2 or so, but could send somebody to jail for driving after like 2 beers.

[nmballa]

Im OK with this, I dont think anyone should drink and drive. A couple beers is ok, after that you should find a ride.

At your size that would be 3 beers over an hour and your above.

[nmballa]

This is a retarded idea for one fundamental reason. The BAC standard doesn't do ANYTHING with respect to stopping a drunk person from entering a vehicle and causing an accident. If the cops catch that l person, great. But the people injuring others and usually over .1 in the first place and the cops don't catch them in time. Is this misc really that diluted in their thinking... come on guys..

Agreed. This does nothing to lessen the number of accidents. Same number will be killed as almost no one is causing accidents and fatalities at .05 to .08. Its people in the .1+ range. This simply makes criminals of those that stop for a beer or two after work.

[unemploymentlin]

lol so ****ing hard and the person that negged me for my opinion with the comment "deeper into the red you go"

YOU GAVE ME A GRAY SQUARE, LMAO

cool story bro