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    What's the BEST NATURAL testosterone booster?

    Hey guys, I've had experience with Animal Stak 2, Blue Up (stim free,) and Tribuloid. However, recently I've tried Tribestan, and am now on Tribosten because it sounded better than Tribestan. However, Tribosten is starting to sound kind of expensive as well as Tribesten on 6 pills a day for their current price. So I was wondering if you guys knew what would be a better natural testosterone booster with the same quality and absorption as Tribestan and Tribosten, but also with a good price, and amount/servings.

    I was thinking Trib Test by Diesel, but is this tribulus as good as Tribosten and Tribestan when it comes to actually delivering the goods? Another one that I was thinking about was Endotest test, but I'm not looking forward to the appetite stimulant that comes with it since I gain weight easily and have no problem in that category. Now there's also Novedex XT, but I know that this is more of an estrogen inhibitor so I'm not quite familiar with this category yet. Is this safe, and can it be used as a stand alone for testosterone raising?

    If you guys have any other ideas let me know; I really have my eyes on Diesel Test 2010, but it's really expensive for me at the moment.

    I want to use this for workouts, but also to increase my sperm count. Before ANY natural testosterone boosters my sperm was 6.9 million. However, after being on Tribuloid and Ejaculoid my second test went up to 18 million (so it DID do SOMETHING good,) but then on my third test it went back down to 13 million. Blah! So yeah, just wanted to also try another brand besides Tribuloid.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Originally Posted by MikotoRocks714 View Post
    Hey guys, I've had experience with Animal Stak 2, Blue Up (stim free,) and Tribuloid. However, recently I've tried Tribestan, and am now on Tribosten because it sounded better than Tribestan. However, Tribosten is starting to sound kind of expensive as well as Tribesten on 6 pills a day for their current price. So I was wondering if you guys knew what would be a better natural testosterone booster with the same quality and absorption as Tribestan and Tribosten, but also with a good price, and amount/servings.

    I was thinking Trib Test by Diesel, but is this tribulus as good as Tribosten and Tribestan when it comes to actually delivering the goods? Another one that I was thinking about was Endotest test, but I'm not looking forward to the appetite stimulant that comes with it since I gain weight easily and have no problem in that category. Now there's also Novedex XT, but I know that this is more of an estrogen inhibitor so I'm not quite familiar with this category yet. Is this safe, and can it be used as a stand alone for testosterone raising?

    If you guys have any other ideas let me know; I really have my eyes on Diesel Test 2010, but it's really expensive for me at the moment.

    I want to use this for workouts, but also to increase my sperm count. Before ANY natural testosterone boosters my sperm was 6.9 million. However, after being on Tribuloid and Ejaculoid my second test went up to 18 million, but then on my third test it went back down to 13 million. Blah! So yeah, just wanted to also try another brand besides Tribuloid.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Originally Posted by ZacharyMills View Post
    DS Activate. IMO, the best out there.
    Awesome man, but is it just as good when used alone? I've heard a lot about this one, but usually used in a stack. All I really want at the moment is just a booster.
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    Diesel Test.
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    Originally Posted by Guard_Pass View Post
    Diesel Test.
    Yeah, I know. It sounds awesome, but I'm looking for something a little bit lower in price with a good serving size. How about Trib Test by Get Diesel? Is it just as good?
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    Originally Posted by MikotoRocks714 View Post
    Is it just as good?
    Judging by ingredients, no.
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    Originally Posted by Guard_Pass View Post
    Judging by ingredients, no.
    Hmmm, that sucks.
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    Originally Posted by MikotoRocks714 View Post
    Hmmm, that sucks.
    SAN Endotest?
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    Originally Posted by MikotoRocks714 View Post
    Awesome man, but is it just as good when used alone? I've heard a lot about this one, but usually used in a stack. All I really want at the moment is just a booster.
    ActivaTe is AWESOME as a standalone. No need to stack it with anything. Check out some of the logs!
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    Originally Posted by ZacharyMills View Post
    ActivaTe is AWESOME as a standalone. No need to stack it with anything. Check out some of the logs!
    Will do man, thanks.
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    Originally Posted by Guard_Pass View Post
    SAN Endotest?
    That one is one of my other options, but don't want the appetite stimulant since I gain weight easily and have no trouble gaining. Have you tried it?
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    Originally Posted by Guard_Pass View Post
    Diesel Test.
    ^^
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    Originally Posted by MikotoRocks714 View Post
    That one is one of my other options, but don't want the appetite stimulant since I gain weight easily and have no trouble gaining. Have you tried it?
    Yea, sorry I just read that part of your post. wow long post. I didn't notice increased hunger but that may just be me. The reason I recommend those is because DIM, it seems to be a pretty solid ingredient.
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    Originally Posted by Guard_Pass View Post
    Yea, sorry I just read that part of your post. wow long post. I didn't notice increased hunger but that may just be me. The reason I recommend those is because DIM, it seems to be a pretty solid ingredient.
    Yeah, it says in the SAN Endotest Pro page that it induces hunger supposedly, don't know though. Oh, never mind... I read that wrong.

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    ActivaTe is not a test booster, it converts testosterone into free testosterone, which is able to be utilized by the body. Rebound Reloaded would be a testosterone booster, because it prevents the aromatization of testosterone into estrogen, thereby increasing the amount of testosterone your body will produce to make up for the "deficit"
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    Originally Posted by SCDiesel23 View Post
    ActivaTe is not a test booster, it converts testosterone into free testosterone, which is able to be utilized by the body. Rebound Reloaded would be a testosterone booster, because it prevents the aromatization of testosterone into estrogen, thereby increasing the amount of testosterone your body will produce to make up for the "deficit"
    Good point, I get tired of pointing that out.
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    Originally Posted by SCDiesel23 View Post
    ActivaTe is not a test booster, it converts testosterone into free testosterone, which is able to be utilized by the body. Rebound Reloaded would be a testosterone booster, because it prevents the aromatization of testosterone into estrogen, thereby increasing the amount of testosterone your body will produce to make up for the "deficit"
    Awesome, thanks for the correction!
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    Originally Posted by SCDiesel23 View Post
    ActivaTe is not a test booster, it converts testosterone into free testosterone, which is able to be utilized by the body. Rebound Reloaded would be a testosterone booster, because it prevents the aromatization of testosterone into estrogen, thereby increasing the amount of testosterone your body will produce to make up for the "deficit"
    By the way, how safe is this compared to SAN Endotest, Diesel 2010, and Trib Test (and the others mentioned.)
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    Originally Posted by MikotoRocks714 View Post
    Awesome, thanks for the correction! By the way, how safe is this compared to SAN Endotest, Diesel 2010, and Trib Test (and the others mentioned.)
    Well for example, I am currently running an ActivaTe/6-OXO cycle. 6-OXO is an AI that I personally chose because of the tests that Ergopharm did on it which indicated no negative rebound effect once cycled off of it, as well as increased testosterone. I've been on it for 8 days, and so far I feel great. The ActivaTe has elevated my mood drastically, which is a big bonus for me. From what I have seen, Novedex is also a good choice. With most AI there are similar possible side effects, such as decreased libido, joint soreness, skin/eye dryness, and it also makes you more suseptible to colds/flu's because estrogen plays a part in immune function. Here is a link to the 6-OXO study if you are interested: http://www.ergopharm.net/products_6oxo_longterm.php
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    wut ingredients are key in these types of products? I've heard that longjack is one of them. What else?
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    I've used Activate, ATD, Diesel Test (old and new), Raw Test, Tribuloid, **** Restore, 6-oxo

    Overall, Restore is the best hands down. Diesel Test is coming in 2nd.

    DT seems to have a more immediate effect though. Restore kicked in hard after 2 weeks or so and has been amazing ever since.
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    Originally Posted by Guard_Pass View Post
    Good point, I get tired of pointing that out.
    My bad. I absolutely forgot about that.

    Try BlueUp from Controlled Labs. Cheap/effective
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    We got three guys doing logs on TestoFreak

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1375831
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1356031
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1436331

    And a fourth doing one on his own: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1351331

    So far, all 4 are getting good results.

    I'm running my own log on Fusion's Zeus stacked with NO Monster (I can't do TestoFreak until this one's done). But, I'm getting good results from Zeus. I'll do a log on TestoFreak and compare the two (as it applies to me--everyone responds differently to each one).

    I did a log on Goliath Lab's Groloid stacked with Tribuloid. That one worked well for me last year.
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    Check out Jungle warfare by ALR industries....worked awesome for me as well as many others!
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    Originally Posted by ZacharyMills View Post
    My bad. I absolutely forgot about that.

    Try BlueUp from Controlled Labs. Cheap/effective
    Thanks man, but if you didn't read my post I guess you missed the part where I mention already using Blue Up.
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    Originally Posted by Steve0178 View Post
    Check out Jungle warfare by ALR industries....worked awesome for me as well as many others!
    What exactly does Jungle Warfare do again? And is it safe?
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    Originally Posted by MikotoRocks714 View Post
    What exactly does Jungle Warfare do again? And is it safe?
    Some info on JW: Yes its safe and all natural.

    Pro-Hypertrophic Proprietary Matrix For Increased Myotrophic Activity!


    So, obviously by now everyone knows that anabolic/androgenic steroids (AAS), prohormones (PH) and prosteroids (PS) work rather well for aiding lean tissue growth by increasing the anabolic response in muscle tissue thus shuttling nutrients away from fat and feeding them to muscle...and most know that they can have serious side effects like jail, HPTA shut-down, liver enzyme and lipid issues. Oh, and they are banned by about every sporting organization on the planet. Many are willing to take these risks, but it may not be necessary or a best choice for the goals desired.

    The way that all androgens (AAS, PH and PS alike are types of androgens) trigger anabolism (protein synthesis/myotrophic activity) in muscle cells is interesting. Once an androgen is in the circulatory or lymphatic system, its molecules merge with androgen receptors (AR’s...remember that term, there will be a test at the end) thus acting as an AR agonist. (Agonist cause a response...antagonist stop one...unless it is an ex-girlfriend of course) The molecule basically delivers a message to the cell telling it what to do. The reason AAS and other androgen-type compounds are so coveted in the underground is simply due to the fact that they deliver a "make more proteins" message in a get bigger and perform better way. (Did I mention the negative side affects?) It is possible to do this without hormones and deliver a significant myotrophic message muscles will pay attention to…without the negative side affects.

    What's So Great About Jungle Warfare?


    -Increased myotrophic activity
    -Favorable nutrient repartitioning
    -HPTA modulation
    -Estrogen management
    -Significant Pro-Hypertrophic capacity
    -Anti-Catabolic


    What's In It?

    Naturally, our design was intended to have a synergistic effect in that one compound’s actions amplifies the others. (I am sure some can think of comparisons to this important point of design). The result is a synergistic Pro-hypertrophic from **** featuring an Herbal Proprietary Myotrophic Complex. (Get the name Jungle Warfare™ yet?) Mormordica Chirantia Extract - We use a specific dual extraction/standardization process that allows us to use both the insulinogenic and non-androgenic AR agonistic fractions unique to a proprietary mormordica chirantia extraction. By doing so, we can foster the hypertrophic event in lean tissue via the two most important mechanisms without the usual negative side effects.

    ADED (5a-dehydro-etiocholane-1,4,6-trien-3-one-17-ol) - Many are aware of both the positive and negative physiological issues relating to the naturally occurring aromatase inhibitory ATD. Most of the benefits are the result of one of its physiological 17-OH metabolites. ADED is a natural non-androgenic metabolite of ATD with improved oral bio-availability. Please, do not confuse this with ATD itself as the difference is very important both in structure and action: Some may recall this one from our Ultra H.O.T.ter matrix but to recap…By modulating estrogen build-up the negative feed-back look to the hypothalamus is put in check. The result is that the body optimizes natural testosterone production. We use our favorite aromatase inhibitor to do this and it works pretty well to modulate, instead of obliterate, estrogen. So we still have the right amount of estrogen for optimal growth of lean tissue, without the excess water weight and fat feeding aspect.

    Conjugated (-)3,4-divanillyl-tetrahydrofuran - We utilize an excellent free testosterone optimizing compound called Conjugated (-)3,4-divanillyl-tetrahydrofuran. This is simply the result of a series of extraction processes performed upon nettle root. Many know of this herb due the anti-aromatase capacity and the studies that show its positive affects upon BHP in men. Some of the nettle extracts also have a positive affect upon the total testosterone to free/active testosterone ratio. More free testosterone means more “active” (as in the part that really matters) testosterone. Nothing really trick here other than it just works better than one would expect. (Nice for a change when something can be simple and effective). Of course, it is all about effective delivery into the body that makes it an asset.

    Proprietary Conjugated Coleonol Extract - Hypotrophic-type receptor health and integrity is paramount to lean tissue optimization. In reality modulation is surprisingly dependant upon cAMP stimulation. Without it, receptor activity down-regulation occurs rapidly and the lean mass promoting symbiotic relationship between hormones goes in the toilet. The **** Proprietary Conjugated Coleonol Extract supports this need rather well.
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    N2315’s w/ Sesaglow
    http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=869526
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    http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=902462


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    Originally Posted by MikotoRocks714 View Post
    Yeah, I know. It sounds awesome, but I'm looking for something a little bit lower in price with a good serving size. How about Trib Test by Get Diesel? Is it just as good?
    Trib test is an "entry level" herbal test booster. It probably will increase your test better than anything else under $30 bucks, but nothing to the degree of DIESEL TEST. It will make you horny tho'

    Also your looking for something low in price, but unfortunately do to the price of raw materials and formulations it takes to make a good herbal test booster your not going to find that product ur looking for for under $35. Even most of the ones around $50 may suck also but def not going to find what ur looking for for $30 or less. Another thing is most test boosters are "libido" pills. So if you want bigger loads you can take maca and horny goat weed, but as your test showed maca and even long jack is best for increasing sperm count/volume for only about 1 or 2 weeks. There is a lot of test on maca that shows it increases sperm count for 1-2 weeks, not 1-3 months.
    GET DIESEL OR DIE TRYIN'

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