Misc I bring you a new existence theory. Guarantee youve never heard it. (srs)

[lucious]

It might not enrapture you, but its new and a fair bit of thought went into it:

The universe, or existence, may necessarily be infinite. If its infinite, it runs into a Bertrand Russel-esque paradox of self-inclusion. Perhaps the only way anything can truly exist proper without an infinite causal regress or paradox, were to be if it undergoes a process of involution/introspection to self-interrogate. If the universe is something like the "set of all sets" or Cantors Absolute, it can invaginate and become completely ensconsed within itself, without sacrificing any infinitude, but gaining an infinite degree of stratification and involution.

Think of the discipline of neuroscience- It is essentially the brain "self-interrogating" to build a workable model/explanation of itself which comprises both mental aspects(scientific theory) and objectively real aspects(the contents of that theory). Perhaps the universe is the same on a larger scale and we're the necessary instruments of introspection. This is an expansion of the anthropic principle and elaborating a bit to include 'ultimate explanations'. Traditionally, that has been used as an argument for God because everything needs a cause. however, it doesnt work because you cant just simply say God is uncaused. If everything is caused in a linear backwards fashion, you get an infinite regression which doesnt work either. If existence is necessarily infinite with some multiverse idea, the only way to avoid an infinite regress or Russels self-inclusion paradox is to have existence "self-explain" somehow. The ultimate explanation is the answer to the self-inclusion paradox. If something does not have the capacity to explain itself, it cannot exist.

This is where I liken it to a brain and neurons- The brain is a lump of matter which becomes introspective and self-interrogating to develop its own model-this is neuroscience. Have you noticed how much the large scale universe looks like neurons? i think its a similar process-it must develop a sufficiently large network to effectively self-explain, and if the infinite folds back on itself to do this(should be mathematically sound, ) I predict there should at some stage be a holographic analog of information at every point in space-time-where every qubit has an infinitely refined model of why the whole exists-every little chunk holds self-explanation. Science does not explain everything, but science is a vital aspect of existence- it is increasingly elaborate self-explanation which in turn feeds back to create an even more elaborate and intricate existence which it seeks to explain. Everything essentially "co emerges".

Often a criticism of philosophical theories like these is that theyre just mental masturbation and dont really solve anything. I think this model is different however, because it can make some successful predictions, not on the same level as science directly explaining natural phenomena, but rather a 'meta-science' which explains a level above-the nature of what scientific theories should ultimately uncover.

What we should expect to see in this regard, is quantized space-time which does not hold any shape were familiar with in the macro world-Rather it should be some sort of topology or manifold which not only extends, but is conversely excessively involuted and withdrawn into itself to allow for infinite processing of information.


This is exactly what we are beginning to see in theoretical physics with subatomic structures like the Calabi-Yau manifold- a sufficiently involuted quanta of info-space which is self-explanatory at all levels.

[ronnie09]

[Kienbock]

[Psychotropic]

[Re21za]

I just did poo poo

[reiffenstein]

I believe in the string-theory ... the g-string theory


















not srs






srs..

[A-GAME]

Read sig OP. We have already been through this.

[HippyBrah]

It might not enrapture you, but its new and a fair bit of thought went into it:

The universe, or existence, may necessarily be infinite. If its infinite, it runs into a Bertrand Russel-esque paradox of self-inclusion. Perhaps the only way anything can truly exist proper without an infinite causal regress or paradox, were to be if it undergoes a process of involution/introspection to self-interrogate. If the universe is something like the "set of all sets" or Cantors Absolute, it can invaginate and become completely ensconsed within itself, without sacrificing any infinitude, but gaining an infinite degree of stratification and involution.

Think of the discipline of neuroscience- It is essentially the brain "self-interrogating" to build a workable model/explanation of itself which comprises both mental aspects(scientific theory) and objectively real aspects(the contents of that theory). Perhaps the universe is the same on a larger scale and we're the necessary instruments of introspection. This is an expansion of the anthropic principle and elaborating a bit to include 'ultimate explanations'. Traditionally, that has been used as an argument for God because everything needs a cause. however, it doesnt work because you cant just simply say God is uncaused. If everything is caused in a linear backwards fashion, you get an infinite regression which doesnt work either. If existence is necessarily infinite with some multiverse idea, the only way to avoid an infinite regress or Russels self-inclusion paradox is to have existence "self-explain" somehow. The ultimate explanation is the answer to the self-inclusion paradox. If something does not have the capacity to explain itself, it cannot exist.

This is where I liken it to a brain and neurons- The brain is a lump of matter which becomes introspective and self-interrogating to develop its own model-this is neuroscience. Have you noticed how much the large scale universe looks like neurons? i think its a similar process-it must develop a sufficiently large network to effectively self-explain, and if the infinite folds back on itself to do this(should be mathematically sound, ) I predict there should at some stage be a holographic analog of information at every point in space-time-where every qubit has an infinitely refined model of why the whole exists-every little chunk holds self-explanation. Science does not explain everything, but science is a vital aspect of existence- it is increasingly elaborate self-explanation which in turn feeds back to create an even more elaborate and intricate existence which it seeks to explain. Everything essentially "co emerges".

Often a criticism of philosophical theories like these is that theyre just mental masturbation and dont really solve anything. I think this model is different however, because it can make some successful predictions, not on the same level as science directly explaining natural phenomena, but rather a 'meta-science' which explains a level above-the nature of what scientific theories should ultimately uncover.

What we should expect to see in this regard, is quantized space-time which does not hold any shape were familiar with in the macro world-Rather it should be some sort of topology or manifold which not only extends, but is conversely excessively involuted and withdrawn into itself to allow for infinite processing of information.


This is exactly what we are beginning to see in theoretical physics with subatomic structures like the Calabi-Yau manifold- a sufficiently involuted quanta of info-space which is self-explanatory at all levels.

[mistrvi]

read it couple days ago, not sure if you posted or not before

[ermagehd]

[lucious]

did you fckwits know abusing the srs tag is a mod neggable offense now?

[Rossayy]

if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around, does it make a sound?

[ronnie09]

did you fckwits know abusing the srs tag is a mod neggable offense now?

oh no mod neg please no pleaseee

[lucious]

read it couple days ago, not sure if you posted or not before

i did in another thread

[A-GAME]

did you fckwits know abusing the srs tag is a mod neggable offense now?

Are you aware you posted this in misc and not RP?

[lucious]

Are you aware you posted this in misc and not RP?

i began the thread title with 'misc' so i think so

[MILFHunter947]

no thanks jeff LOL

[Nomza]

did you fckwits know abusing the srs tag is a mod neggable offense now?

Let these *******s laugh at you, you're on to something here. Sagan would be proud.

[Ashton117]

Thought it was very interesting. Never thought about who created God

[A-GAME]

i began the thread title with 'misc' so i think so

Don't get cheeky with me kunt I'm a Sydney boy I'll fukn wreck you.

[OldBroStrength]

[B7AC]

invaginate...

[lucious]

Let these *******s laugh at you, you're on to something here. Sagan would be proud.

if srs thanks bro, i even went to the trouble of making a srs tag and i still get misc'd

*tears up*

[Achilles87]

In to read when not hungover

[Ashen]

cliffs?

[butwhowasfeel]

sorry brah, already heard this theory from a youtube vid lol

[Re21za]

did you fckwits know abusing the srs tag is a mod neggable offense now?

OP i dids poo poo

[lucious]

sorry brah, already heard this theory from a youtube vid lol

was it athenes theory of everything?

thats a bit different.

[OldBroStrength]

Just to re-iterate:

[Psychotropic]

did you fckwits know abusing the srs tag is a mod neggable offense now?

LOL thanks for the neg. Do you expect anyone to take this **** seriously? Either do physics (which I’m betting you can’t) or do proper philosophy which has nothing to do with fanciful, un-testable ultimate explanations involving sub-atomic physics.