Hey all ,
I was wondering if a products called "CUTTING GEL" which is supposed to help with fatloss works. In your response please specify if you've actualy tried it out , and if so how long before you saw results.
Thnx...
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Thread: Does CUTTING GEL work ?
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11-10-2001, 10:52 AM #1
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11-10-2001, 11:05 AM #2
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11-11-2001, 02:57 PM #3
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11-11-2001, 04:59 PM #4
I've heard nothing but negative feedback about it. I would trash it.
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11-12-2001, 10:12 AM #5
Its active ingredient is aminophylline:
Aminophylline is a xanthine derivative, similar to caffeine, which is not a particularly potent fat burner. In rat studies, it has shown good thermogenic properties due to blockade of adenosine receptors (which provide one of the negative feedback mechanisms for catecholamine induced thermogenesis) and inhibition of phosphodiesterase (which degrade cyclic AMP) -- but this is at extremely high doses, which would kill a human, so it is not applicable (1,2). At therapuetic doses, only adenosine blockade occurs, which will act to increase norepinephrine levels (3)-- but norepinephrine stimulates alpha 2 receptors (bad) in addition to beta 2 receptors (good) -- and in stubborn fat, alpha 2's outnumber beta 2's (4).
Like caffeine, it is a good diuretic (5), which would account for the girth loss in the study they reference, which did not measure actual fat loss (6,7). One study did look at fat depth after use of an aminophylline cream, and no difference was found vs. control (8).
As a local diuretic, it seems to be effective, but as a true fat loss agent, it quite likely is not.
ParDeus
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8. Collis N, Elliot LA, Sharpe C, Sharpe DT. Cellulite treatment: a myth or reality: a prospective randomized, controlled trial of two therapies, endermologie and aminophylline cream. Plast Reconstr Surg 1999 Sep;104(4):1110-4; discussion 1115-7El Jefe et Patron
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