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    Detonate/Dexaprine/Alphamine or Yohimbe?

    Looking to jump on the fat burning journey - diet is in check, but holding the last bit of weight around the damn belly(I know I can't spot lose, yes). I've done my research and decided to go the stim route and stick to a non-stim PWO like Hemavol.

    I'm looking for a burner who's preliminary purpose is to burn fat, not really interested in the appetite suppresent side of things. What do you guys recommend from the ones I listed above? Would it be smart for me to stack one of the three with Yohimbe or would that be too much? I don't want to go tooooooo crazy-it's my first time using a burner.

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    Check out alpha-y: Decimate/AlphaBurn
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    You can try Alphamine + Alpha-T2 or Dexaprine solo (only because I don't know the stim content of Dexaprine). Either will provide lipolytic effects.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Check out alpha-y: Decimate/AlphaBurn
    Why would I want to stack the two? Just trying to understand the reasoning? Alphaburn seems to be the alternative to Yohimbe, right? Decimate has a-Y?

    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    You can try Alphamine + Alpha-T2 or Dexaprine solo (only because I don't know the stim content of Dexaprine). Either will provide lipolytic effects.
    Similar question as above - how would I benefit from stacking Alphamine and AT2? Also Alphamine states that it's only going to shed the fat - is that a marketing scheme or is it really superior to the other fat burners?

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    Originally Posted by xauthenticx View Post
    Why would I want to stack the two? Just trying to understand the reasoning? Alphaburn seems to be the alternative to Yohimbe, right? Decimate has a-Y?
    I never said anything about stacking, i said check out alpha-y. Alpha-y is contained in those products. If you don't use ephedrine, the next best thing is alpha-y.
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    Originally Posted by xauthenticx View Post
    Why would I want to stack the two? Just trying to understand the reasoning? Alphaburn seems to be the alternative to Yohimbe, right? Decimate has a-Y?



    Similar question as above - how would I benefit from stacking Alphamine and AT2? Also Alphamine states that it's only going to shed the fat - is that a marketing scheme or is it really superior to the other fat burners?

    Thanks guys! Want to make this buy ASAP!
    Alpha-T2 contains oleuropein which dose-dependently improves peripheral thyroid turnover and thus increases metabolic rate. It also has bacopa for adaptogenic cortisol support. It is very low stim.

    Alphamine is more heavily stimmed, and yes, it preferentially burns fat due to its actions on adrenoreceptors + HICA to spare muscle protein.
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    detonate by Gaspari is legit as hell, same with Super HD by Cellucor. My personal favs, water and tons of fiber is the best weight loss method known to man, and a little cardio. No cardio and crap diet, all the thermos in the world won't do anything. Learn to eat healthily with your macros in order, then put thermos in the mix, just my two cents.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    I never said anything about stacking, i said check out alpha-y. Alpha-y is contained in those products. If you don't use ephedrine, the next best thing is alpha-y.
    Sorry, I misunderstood. But make's sense - thanks for clarifying. Is there a product that caters towards ephedrine or is alpha-y the way to go these days?

    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    Alpha-T2 contains oleuropein which dose-dependently improves peripheral thyroid turnover and thus increases metabolic rate. It also has bacopa for adaptogenic cortisol support. It is very low stim.

    Alphamine is more heavily stimmed, and yes, it preferentially burns fat due to its actions on adrenoreceptors + HICA to spare muscle protein.
    Thanks! I prefer to stay away from anything that's tinkering with my Thyroid(no scientific reasoning, just a feeling) so maybe Alphamine stacked with Decimate?
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    Originally Posted by xauthenticx View Post
    Sorry, I misunderstood. But make's sense - thanks for clarifying. Is there a product that caters towards ephedrine or is alpha-y the way to go these days?



    Thanks! I prefer to stay away from anything that's tinkering with my Thyroid(no scientific reasoning, just a feeling) so maybe Alphamine stacked with Decimate?
    Alpha-T2 doesn't affect your thyroid gland and actually supports healthy function. But decimate is indeed another great option
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    Alpha-T2 doesn't affect your thyroid gland and actually supports healthy function. But decimate is indeed another great option
    Understood! Thanks for the input!
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    Originally Posted by Ivarr84 View Post
    detonate by Gaspari is legit as hell,

    Thanks for the kind words ... and your exactly right. Appetite suppression, fat loss, focus, energy, drive, desire ... you name it. Detonate brings it. Probably the most "hard hitting" product in our line. You take one cap and you can literally tell it's no joke. Definitely worth trying.





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    Originally Posted by xauthenticx View Post
    Sorry, I misunderstood. But make's sense - thanks for clarifying. Is there a product that caters towards ephedrine or is alpha-y the way to go these days?



    Thanks! I prefer to stay away from anything that's tinkering with my Thyroid(no scientific reasoning, just a feeling) so maybe Alphamine stacked with Decimate?
    Ephedrine = Bronkaid which is found in the pharmacy. Ephedrine is prohibited from being contained in dietary supplements.
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    Originally Posted by xauthenticx View Post
    Looking to jump on the fat burning journey - diet is in check, but holding the last bit of weight around the damn belly(I know I can't spot lose, yes). I've done my research and decided to go the stim route and stick to a non-stim PWO like Hemavol.

    I'm looking for a burner who's preliminary purpose is to burn fat, not really interested in the appetite suppresent side of things. What do you guys recommend from the ones I listed above? Would it be smart for me to stack one of the three with Yohimbe or would that be too much? I don't want to go tooooooo crazy-it's my first time using a burner.

    Thanks!
    Alphamine gets my vote. Look at the research behind the primary ingredients and you will see that it is designed for exactly what you want.
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    All good options, if I was choosing I would go alpha and y. I have used dexaprine which I like, its some intense stuff and lasts a real long time even at the full cap a day. I have sampled alphamine once and would love to try detonate, I have read the detonate seems to really put people in a good mood.
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    Yea, I'm basically teetering between Alphamine or Decimate at this point. Dexaprine XR seem's a little too intense for me, especially for my first burner.
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    Dexaprine has been reformulated to be more dose-flexible and user friendly - essentially we've reduce the amount of caffeine to make it more appealing to a wider array of users, while increasing the euphoric and feel good ingredients to really take advantage of a positive mental state, appetite suppression, et cetera, which is critical when dieting.

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    Originally Posted by xauthenticx View Post
    I'm looking for a burner who's preliminary purpose is to burn fat, not really interested in the appetite suppresent side of things. What do you guys recommend from the ones I listed above? Would it be smart for me to stack one of the three with Yohimbe or would that be too much? I don't want to go tooooooo crazy-it's my first time using a burner.
    if you're not wanting to get stimmed, i'd say look for our new Dex XR. while the ingredients stayed the same from our V2 product, the ratios of ingredients changed, goal was to keep fat burning a priority, keep the enhanced mood, keep appetite suppression, and lower the chances of you feeling the negative that most people complain about "cray/jitters"
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    DEX XR + New Alpha t2 stack
    other ones i liked in the past DEX XR + DCP or TTA
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    Detonate simply for the dendrobium.

    I have no idea why more companies don't put this stuff in their products.
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    Originally Posted by xauthenticx View Post
    Yea, I'm basically teetering between Alphamine or Decimate at this point. Dexaprine XR seem's a little too intense for me, especially for my first burner.
    Honestly I don't think you can go wrong choosing any of those. While I don't have experience with the new Dexaprine it has solid ingredients and they all share some similarities. Decimate doesn't contain any caffeine compared to the other two and they should have a new version coming out soon.

    One nice thing about Alphamine is the powder dosing so you can tweak the dosage to exactly how much you want, which is nice.
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    Originally Posted by Ivarr84 View Post
    detonate by Gaspari is legit as hell, same with Super HD by Cellucor. My personal favs, water and tons of fiber is the best weight loss method known to man, and a little cardio. No cardio and crap diet, all the thermos in the world won't do anything. Learn to eat healthily with your macros in order, then put thermos in the mix, just my two cents.
    I'd be careful with Super HD. I don't recommend any product that combined Tyrosine and Yohimbe.

    I would do Alphamine or Detonate.
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    Originally Posted by Wolf200 View Post
    Detonate simply for the dendrobium.

    I have no idea why more companies don't put this stuff in their products.
    What are the exact benefits of Dendrobium? Not all Dendrobium extracts contain the same / same amount of alkaloids which are usually just different PEA substrates. IMO I'm interested to see what a standardized Dendrobium can do on it's own.
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    If the diet is in check - what usually happens when you cycle off? I'm assuming that since the body burns "fat" - it's not just going to gain it back as long as you're not on a calorie surplus.

    Does your body just rest at the composition after the fat burner cycle - assuming training/diet are in check?
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    Originally Posted by xauthenticx View Post
    If the diet is in check - what usually happens when you cycle off? I'm assuming that since the body burns "fat" - it's not just going to gain it back as long as you're not on a calorie surplus.

    Does your body just rest at the composition after the fat burner cycle - assuming training/diet are in check?
    It depends on what you're using "on cycle." A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit regardless of EC or alpha-y or Lean Xtreme use.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    It depends on what you're using "on cycle." A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit regardless of EC or alpha-y or Lean Xtreme use.
    Right, so assuming I'm at maintenance after the cycle...I shouldn't gain the weight back. Obv assuming that the calculations are correct and I'm hitting the calorie mark, correct?
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