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    Thumbs up BioForge/Erase increased my testosterone +150

    Got my blood work back
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    BioForge+Erase 1 month run... No strength gains but got minor leaner and minor mass gain...minor joint pain.. Its definatley betten then activate xtreme/triazole which always got me sick half way. Might run it again.
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    Erase is a test booster though. Whats bio forge? Your test should have been higher due to estrogen while on erase and then dropped to normal when you came off.
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    Originally Posted by Immichaelski View Post
    Erase is a test booster though. Whats bio forge? Your test should have been higher due to estrogen while on erase and then dropped to normal when you came off.
    Huh? Pes Erase is an anti estrogen....
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    Originally Posted by Mudkip View Post
    Huh? Pes Erase is an anti estrogen....
    It's a purported Aromatase inhibitor so it inhibits the enzyme responsible for converting androstenedione and testosterone to estrogens. Estrogen also is part of a negative feedback loop on a pathway that signals to produce testosterone. If you reduce the inhibitor (estrogen), the pathway that signals to produce testosterone is less inhibited. Testosterone is also operates in a negative feedback loop so how much this AI actually affects testosterone is open to question. I haven't seen any blood work on the AI alone.
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    Originally Posted by Mudkip View Post
    Got my blood work back
    Before: 380
    After: 530

    BioForge+Erase 1 month run... No strength gains but got minor leaner and minor mass gain...minor joint pain.. Its definatley betten then activate xtreme/triazole which always got me sick half way. Might run it again.
    What time of day were the tests conducted? What did you eat before hand? How many hours did you sleep before both tests? Did you workout the day before both tests?

    All are confounding variables which ultimately point to your gains not meaning much unless you control for these, and other, confounds.
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    Originally Posted by MasterBench View Post
    What time of day were the tests conducted? What did you eat before hand? How many hours did you sleep before both tests? Did you workout the day before both tests?
    Good points. Interested as well.
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    Originally Posted by MasterBench View Post
    What time of day were the tests conducted? What did you eat before hand? How many hours did you sleep before both tests? Did you workout the day before both tests?

    All are confounding variables which ultimately point to your gains not meaning much unless you control for these, and other, confounds.
    I definitely give natural T fluctuations credit where due, but I'd wager that a 40% increase can be chalked up to more than just diurnal rhythms, unless OP was under heavy stress/sleep deprivation in the before test.

    Thanks for the feedback OP. Pretty impressive for just 1 month
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    Originally Posted by Bryancap77 View Post
    Pretty crazy increase there gjdm
    Impressive for 1 month
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    Originally Posted by MasterBench View Post
    What time of day were the tests conducted? What did you eat before hand? How many hours did you sleep before both tests? Did you workout the day before both tests?

    All are confounding variables which ultimately point to your gains not meaning much unless you control for these, and other, confounds.
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    Nice results. I am fond of both products so it is nice to see someone post something like this
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    Thank you for posting blood work.

    Did you notice any change in libido?
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    Originally Posted by Mudkip View Post
    Got my blood work back
    Before: 380
    After: 530

    BioForge+Erase 1 month run... No strength gains but got minor leaner and minor mass gain...minor joint pain.. Its definatley betten then activate xtreme/triazole which always got me sick half way. Might run it again.
    WHAT do u mean the extreme/triazole got u sick ? can u plz elaborate on that?
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    Interesting for the influx of PES reps in the last few weeks. Normally see you guys on AM.
    Thanks for your input, you frauding fat slampig-Sirfapsalot '20

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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    I definitely give natural T fluctuations credit where due, but I'd wager that a 40% increase can be chalked up to more than just diurnal rhythms, unless OP was under heavy stress/sleep deprivation in the before test.

    Thanks for the feedback OP. Pretty impressive for just 1 month
    Indeed it would be more than regular from peak to nadir.

    For people's reference, he's a chart:

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    Your T is pretty low even with the supplements.

    How old are you?
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    Test boosters, including bio forge, are absolute garbage with regards to bodybuilding. They can be helpful as part of pct for actual anabolic products. However for what they cost it is wretched value for your dollar
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    Originally Posted by Yamar1 View Post
    Your T is pretty low even with the supplements.

    How old are you?
    Different labs use different ranges for level testing.
    Thanks for your input, you frauding fat slampig-Sirfapsalot '20

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