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    How Do People Like Zyzz/Jeff Seid Stay so lean and build muscle?

    I understand how to get lean with the calorie in vs out method, But how does this work with bulking? These shredded "stars" are always so lean while working out and bulking. What are they doing?



    Q: During my bulks, I gain a lot of fat in my midsection, enough to cover my abs and It's really annoying because I know I have abs that are great, which I've been working on forever, just covered up, But I want to put on more muscle before a cut. Does this happen to you guys?
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    Originally Posted by Michaelmmm View Post
    I understand how to get lean with the calorie in vs out method, But how does this work with bulking? These shredded "stars" are always so lean while working out and bulking. What are they doing?



    Q: During my bulks, I gain a lot of fat in my midsection, enough to cover my abs and It's really annoying because I know I have abs that are great, which I've been working on forever, just covered up, But I want to put on more muscle before a cut. Does this happen to you guys?
    Well zyzz is dead. That is how he stays lean. RIp though
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    Originally Posted by jasticus View Post
    Well zyzz is dead. That is how he stays lean. RIp though
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    You asked what are they doing and I told you what he is doing.
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    You really don't know what they're doing?
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    well its very easy, to bulk and stay lean when u are on certain supplements
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    Ignoring the steroid usage, it's very difficult, but possible. You can still put on muscle without bulking... you seem to think if you exercise but maintain calories you wont put on muscle?!
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    they get really big and then cut. or just eat like a small calorie surplus so they don't gain much bodyfat while they're bulking.. but for most people if you want to gain a lot of muscle and be really huge you just have to deal with having belly fat for a little while until you reach your ideal weight.. like if you want to be 180 pounds ripped you could bulk up to like 220 with 20% bodyfat and then cut down.. or something like that
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    Originally Posted by tnelson1134 View Post
    they get really big and then cut. or just eat like a small calorie surplus so they don't gain much bodyfat while they're bulking.. but for most people if you want to gain a lot of muscle and be really huge you just have to deal with having belly fat for a little while until you reach your ideal weight.. like if you want to be 180 pounds ripped you could bulk up to like 220 with 20% bodyfat and then cut down.. or something like that

    Whats ideal for the height of 5'75 to be shredded? I currently weight give or take around 155 lb. I'd like a physique of not skinny-shredded. I know zyzz btw took roids at one point, but I hear otherwise for Jeff. Regardless, they both are great and much respect.
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    they take special supplements. for a natural the optimal way to go about it is to bulk for 8- 12 months in a surplus gaining 1-2 pounds a month getting progressively stronger in your lifts. if your just in a surplus without a optimal training program getting stronger in your lifts overtime than you will only gain fat. but fat gain is always going to come with a bulk but it should always be 1-2 pounds a month since you can only gain so much muscle naturally.
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    Don't dirty bulk. You can gain muscle without gaining a lot of fat with the right diet.

    Btw Zyzz used steroids, I know nothing about Jeff Seid tho.
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    Originally Posted by Critter5592 View Post
    Ignoring the steroid usage, it's very difficult, but possible. You can still put on muscle without bulking... you seem to think if you exercise but maintain calories you wont put on muscle?!
    It is impossible to add muscle without bulking, for a natural athlete. u must be in a caloric surplus
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    It is impossible to add muscle without bulking, for a natural athlete. u must be in a caloric surplus
    Yea it doesn't have to be a huge surplus though.
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    They have muscle maturity thats why.(years of hard trainning) but im pretty sure that jeff and zyzz are no natural
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    Maintaining a positive nitrogen balance by getting adequate protein while probably eating fairly close to maintenance (+200 cals). You don't necessarily have to "bulk" to get big but the process will be slower without all the extra calories, and they probably take supplements like glutamine and stuff.
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    Originally Posted by jasticus View Post
    Well zyzz is dead. That is how he stays lean. RIp though
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    Originally Posted by Michaelmmm View Post
    I understand how to get lean with the calorie in vs out method, But how does this work with bulking? These shredded "stars" are always so lean while working out and bulking. What are they doing?
    They use stuff like Trenbolone, Masteron, GH, Clen, Ephedrine and other crap. (Hope this post won't get deleted lol)
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