Craze not enough?

[tgggd86]

I was recommended to try out Craze: I'd post the link but I need to hit fifty posts...

I took the "max dosage" of two servings today and not impressed. Should I bump it up to three so I can actually feel the PWO?

[iDo5Kz]

Do you consume a lot of caffeine throughout your day?

[Terrimonas]

And this logic is why we can't have nice things

[BogusForLife]

I was recommended to try out Craze: I'd post the link but I need to hit fifty posts...

I took the "max dosage" of two servings today and not impressed. Should I bump it up to three so I can actually feel the PWO?

No.

Take a stimulant break and/or find another preworkout and stick to the dosing guidelines.

[Rauchenne]

Checkout ANS Ritual. The ingredient panel and dosages are impressive to say the least.

[kissdadookie]

Don't do more than the suggested max dose of Craze. I've tried their suggestion of 2 heaping scoops thinking I'm a stim vet, it was a bad idea. 2 level scoops works a charm. Above that, all kinds of cotton mouth action and other irritating feelings starts emerging.

[tgggd86]

No.

Take a stimulant break and/or find another preworkout and stick to the dosing guidelines.

I've been off stims for the last month.

Do you consume a lot of caffeine throughout your day?

I consume none. But 400mg of caffine does nothing but makes me more awake. I'm extremely Stim tolerant.

[tgggd86]

If I stack with Hemavol will that at least help me notice a difference? Even though Hemavol is not a stim.

[kissdadookie]

If I stack with Hemavol will that at least help me notice a difference? Even though Hemavol is not a stim.

Depends. For pumps and vascularity, you'll get that from Hemavol. For energy, hell no. What are you expecting from Craze exactly? Stimmed out energy rush? Craze isn't really going to do that for you unless you have very good caffeine sensitivity.

[tgggd86]

Depends. For pumps and vascularity, you'll get that from Hemavol. For energy, hell no. What are you expecting from Craze exactly? Stimmed out energy rush? Craze isn't really going to do that for you unless you have very good caffeine sensitivity.

I'm looking for something to even come close to the focus and intensity I got with jack3d. Basically I want to walk into the gym and the only thing on my mind is DESTROY

[kissdadookie]

I'm looking for something to even come close to the focus and intensity I got with jack3d. Basically I want to walk into the gym and the only thing on my mind is DESTROY

Original Hyde and Muscle Marinade would be your best bets. Those can still be found on some supp sites, just not on bb.com. I stocked up on 3 tubs of the Original Hyde, took it for the last two days, still real good but I would not take it for more than twice a week, that DMAA is easy to build up tolerance for and not to mention the caffeine and yohimbe. I just use Craze in the other days with something milder in between during the week (currently White Flood, works well for me).

VPX Friction (don't get it on bb.com though, I found the bb.com version to be a bit weaker than the regular formula). That is basically straight up 400 mg of caffeine, lots of yohimbe, some other stims, 5 grams of creatine and. 3.2 grams of beta alanine. Really good formula IMHO.

As for the Jack3d type of focus, it's really a different kind of focus compared to what I get from Craze and to a lesser extent, White Flood. Craze and White Flood helps with my concentration rather than heavy energy stim type focus. Craze especially is more like the you lose track of time focus but you do need to actually put in the drive to want to attack your work out. You need to provide the drive and them Craze takes over and enhances it quite a bit.

[ubernoob]

You sir OP are a dumb azz. Take a stim break, see you in 4 weeks.

[deeAvi]

If I stack with Hemavol will that at least help me notice a difference? Even though Hemavol is not a stim.

no lol

you need a stim break.

[tgggd86]

Thanks a lot man! That's what I was looking for! Repped!

[tgggd86]

You sir OP are a dumb azz. Take a stim break, see you in 4 weeks.

Can you read? check post #7

[kissdadookie]

Thanks a lot man! That's what I was looking for! Repped!

If out of Hyde, Muscle Marinade, VPX Friction, and Mr. Hyde doesn't work for you, there's basically no hope for you apart from banned substances. LoL.

[cr357]

I had the same issue because of a super high stim tolerance, 2 scoops was doing nothing. Eventually I just backed down to 1 scoop and added 200mg of caffeine and it worked perfectly, great focus during working sets. Increasing is not the answer in this case.

[kerplunk]

I had the same issue because of a super high stim tolerance, 2 scoops was doing nothing. Eventually I just backed down to 1 scoop and added 200mg of caffeine and it worked perfectly, great focus during working sets. Increasing is not the answer in this case.

I can't make direct recommendations like this. But 1. do not exceed max dose. 2. The above post I quoted is not a bad idea.

[TMac26]

400 mg and nothing? You sir have a medical condition. If I took that much I would **** my brains out and feel like death.

[hockeyman224]

400 mg and nothing? You sir have a medical condition. If I took that much I would **** my brains out and feel like death.

Haha this. I stack craze with potassium nitrate or citrulline malate. I only need a single heaping scoop of craze to get me going though.

[kissdadookie]

Haha this. I stack craze with potassium nitrate or citrulline malate. I only need a single heaping scoop of craze to get me going though.

2 scoops Craze + 2 scoops Hemavol + 1 scoop Oximega Greens (for the nitrates) on Craze days for me. Compete for intra @ 2 scoops. Pumps and veins for days.

[ubernoob]

Can you read? check post #7

I highly doubt you took a stim break especially if you had no reaction and yes I did read. Your suspect and negged!

Take a real break no energy drinks, coffee, everything stimmed then come back again in 4 weeks, otherwise your lying.

[ryzaar]

I highly doubt you took a stim break especially if you had no reaction and yes I did read. Your suspect and negged!

Take a real break no energy drinks, coffee, everything stimmed then come back again in 4 weeks, otherwise your lying.

To the OPs credit, I'm much the same. I went about 2 years without a stim break (this was before starting at the gym, mostly coffee and energy drinks), and also don't find much from 400mg caffeine. I've taken a few 2 month stim breaks, taken a heap of different adaptogens, thyroid and adrenal gland 'remedies' etc to no success.

Apparently having ADHD can cancel the effects of caffeine. Not saying I or the OP have ADHD, but maybe a mild form or related condition that causes this.

EDIT: and to clarify, these breaks consisted of no coffees, energy drinks, sodas, etc. First break was without adaptogens and other remedies, second break was with ashwaganda and b6, third break was a heap of **** that I can't even remember. First week I felt a mild effect from caffeine, second week, my tolerance was back completely.

[tgggd86]

I highly doubt you took a stim break especially if you had no reaction and yes I did read. Your suspect and negged!

Take a real break no energy drinks, coffee, everything stimmed then come back again in 4 weeks, otherwise your lying.

Thanks for the neg, because you're a tard. I'm deployed and didn't have access to caffeine or other stims for the last month and a half. GTFO

[kissdadookie]

Thanks for the neg, because you're a tard. I'm deployed and didn't have access to caffeine or other stims for the last month and a half. GTFO

If you are deployed, I would suggest no original Hyde for you. That has 1-3/DMAA in it which as far as I am aware of, is a banned substance in the military. The VPX Friction is readily available on base though. I believe they also have Hemorage which is pretty good (the concentrated one, smaller tub).

[Marshall28]

Sounds like you have a motavation issue. You should not need more than 2 scoops to workout.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

Start out with a lower dose(1 scoop) and add a little more each time. I've been taking Craze forever and never need to exceed 1.5 scoops. If it still doesn't work, you could try doing like I saw mentioned in here, add a little extra caffeine to 1 scoop.

[umopp]

Not sure if it was suggested already but try it on an empty stomach, I'm talking about first thing when you wake up. When I first tried craze I thought it didn't work but then I tried it right when I woke up and my mind was blown.

[Daz206]

I've been taking Craze for over a month and I haven't exceeded 1 and 1/4 scoop. I still feel the wonderful effects and blast through my workouts. This is still the best preworkout I've ever tried. And I have tried many. I can't even imagine how I would feel if I upped the dosage or stacked it with Hemavol o lawd

[kerplunk]

By the way to all you caffeine non-responders, lack of stimulation from higher doses of caffeine could be attributed to thyroid disorders. If you have any other symptoms related to thyroid function, think first before saying, "caffeine don't do squat bro, I'm trying to be stimmed da fuk out bra". I am in no way a physician, so this is my disclaimer.