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    Spotting a fake natural bodybuilder

    interesting video. just in case you don't know, the guy who is in those pictures who he is saying ain't natty is josh hyaduck

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    I really don't like this guy. Hyaduck is natty
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    Originally Posted by SmallLats View Post
    I really don't like this guy. Hyaduck is natty
    i don't like him either but he makes some good points. i don't think he is, he looks completely different to almost everyone else, he looks bloated all the time in the off season too
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336 View Post
    i don't like him either but he makes some good points. i don't think he is, he looks completely different to almost everyone else, he looks bloated all the time in the off season too
    Makes me sad you guys think he is natty.
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    Originally Posted by WorkoutFreak219 View Post
    Makes me sad you guys think he is natty.
    i've just said i don't think he is natty in the post you quoted, lol
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    Originally Posted by Jordan336 View Post
    i've just said i don't think he is natty in the post you quoted, lol
    My apologies.
    Read that wrong.
    Clearly not natural looking at the pictures, at least in the offseason he's not natty
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    bump
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    Originally Posted by SmallLats View Post
    I really don't like this guy. Hyaduck is natty
    Definitely not lol
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    Hyaduck ain't natty. Neither is Jim Cordova for that matter.
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    Originally Posted by NZninja101 View Post
    Hyaduck ain't natty. Neither is Jim Cordova for that matter.
    yee, jim is pretty big too
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    one can hope:/
    Originally Posted by Pinkton View Post
    Definitely not lol
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    not this again lol.

    I know 2 guys who have absolutely insane arms, absolutely insane shoulders and chest. Extremely big, extremely big

    These guys don't even lift weights, all they do is party every weekend. LMFAO.

    These guys are natural, because i know them, the only thing they do is drink

    Now if guys have good genetics, and look good with absolutely 0 training, what do u think is going to happen when guys that do have good genetics, get top level training, top level nutirition, top level everything.

    I mean combine that with great genetics, Then yes, anything is possible.

    They say there natural, there natural. Thats what i think. Do not care if they are or not to be honest. All i know is i myself am 100 percent natty for life.
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    not this again lol.

    I know 2 guys who have absolutely insane arms, absolutely insane shoulders and chest. Extremely big, extremely big

    These guys don't even lift weights, all they do is party every weekend. LMFAO.

    These guys are natural, because i know them, the only thing they do is drink

    Now if guys have good genetics, and look good with absolutely 0 training, what do u think is going to happen when guys that do have good genetics, get top level training, top level nutirition, top level everything.

    I mean combine that with great genetics, Then yes, anything is possible.

    They say there natural, there natural. Thats what i think. Do not care if they are or not to be honest. All i know is i myself am 100 percent natty for life.
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    not this again lol.

    I know 2 guys who have absolutely insane arms, absolutely insane shoulders and chest. Extremely big, extremely big

    These guys don't even lift weights, all they do is party every weekend. LMFAO.

    These guys are natural, because i know them, the only thing they do is drink

    Now if guys have good genetics, and look good with absolutely 0 training, what do u think is going to happen when guys that do have good genetics, get top level training, top level nutirition, top level everything.

    I mean combine that with great genetics, Then yes, anything is possible.

    They say there natural, there natural. Thats what i think. Do not care if they are or not to be honest. All i know is i myself am 100 percent natty for life.
    With this logic you could be cycling but be "natty"
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    Originally Posted by RugbyBro View Post
    With this logic you could be cycling but be "natty"
    huh?
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    huh?
    I could be competing in the Tour de France but be a natty if I say I am.
    How's that work?
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    Originally Posted by RugbyBro View Post
    I could be competing in the Tour de France but be a natty if I say I am.
    How's that work?
    He's saying most people own up to it. You can trust that when most people that say they're natty, most of the time they are. They may have great genetics, and if they dont they're just lying to themselves ha. The guys who juice normally have nothing to hide, because anybody who lifts knows it takes the same ammount of work to build the muscle, maybe even more so because they need to have everything perfect or they're wasting their money.
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    this type of judgmental thinking is foolish. There are anomalies out there that just blow up from the weights. Look at Ronnie's peaks when he was a teen. A lot of the pros became BB'ers because they trained for another sport and just blew up. Mike Mattarazzo took up boxing and his arms went to 17 inches, just crazy genes.
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    Originally Posted by Cippi21 View Post
    He's saying most people own up to it. You can trust that when most people that say they're natty, most of the time they are. They may have great genetics, and if they dont they're just lying to themselves ha. The guys who juice normally have nothing to hide, because anybody who lifts knows it takes the same ammount of work to build the muscle, maybe even more so because they need to have everything perfect or they're wasting their money.
    This. if u ask any ifbb pro they will tell u there on the stuff. U ask any natty if there natural they will tell u they are.

    Who cares u get the odd one who aren't.
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    Originally Posted by SmallLats View Post
    I really don't like this guy. Hyaduck is natty
    Obviously, because he says so
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    This. if u ask any ifbb pro they will tell u there on the stuff. U ask any natty if there natural they will tell u they are.

    Who cares u get the odd one who aren't.
    Any bber who gets publicity won't.
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    Originally Posted by RugbyBro View Post
    Any bber who gets publicity won't.
    Sort of true. You only really gotta worry about the ones that advocate the use of a particular supplement. The company will pay them to say "I'm a natural bodybuilder and (insert any supplement) made it possible"
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    Originally Posted by Cippi21 View Post
    Sort of true. You only really gotta worry about the ones that advocate the use of a particular supplement. The company will pay them to say "I'm a natural bodybuilder and (insert any supplement) made it possible"
    They are also labelled bad by the media. No one wants the publicity associated
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    Originally Posted by RugbyBro View Post
    They are also labelled bad by the media. No one wants the publicity associated
    That's because everyone thinks gear is the "easy way out". They think you can just sit on ur ass and gain muscle. Lol it's funny how ignorant people who don't lift are towards bodybuilders. Tell any of your non-lifting friends that you drink protein and Creatine and they don't consider you "natural"
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    Originally Posted by Whitekoala View Post
    This. if u ask any ifbb pro they will tell u there on the stuff. U ask any natty if there natural they will tell u they are.

    Who cares u get the odd one who aren't.
    People lying?

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    Hyaduck is just about as natural as the gear he's on. This video actually got me to start watching Jason's videos. I was always subscribed to him but I never gave his videos any attention. He actually has some of the most imformative videos out there. He has, to be fair, been stirring a fair bit of shit lately, with the indirect calling out of Hyaduck, the calling out of Layne Norton, his ongoing semi-beef with Ian McCarthy, his little thing with TheRage191 etc.

    Not to offend Jason, but is there a reason why he doesn't look particularly good? Is he a powerlifter or something?
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    Originally Posted by LiftCore View Post
    Hyaduck is just about as natural as the gear he's on. This video actually got me to start watching Jason's videos. I was always subscribed to him but I never gave his videos any attention. He actually has some of the most imformative videos out there. He has, to be fair, been stirring a fair bit of shit lately, with the indirect calling out of Hyaduck, the calling out of Layne Norton, his ongoing semi-beef with Ian McCarthy, his little thing with TheRage191 etc.

    Not to offend Jason, but is there a reason why he doesn't look particularly good? Is he a powerlifter or something?
    He is a powerlifter and he also used to be a bodybuilder in his younger days. Also he has stated in several of his videos that he knows how to lower his body fat and look good but lowering his body fat at the moment does not suit his needs/goals because he is a powerlifter.
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    Originally Posted by Cippi21 View Post
    That's because everyone thinks gear is the "easy way out". They think you can just sit on ur ass and gain muscle. Lol it's funny how ignorant people who don't lift are towards bodybuilders. Tell any of your non-lifting friends that you drink protein and Creatine and they don't consider you "natural"
    The funny thing is, there's a study (maybe more) that showed a group of non-lifting males on certain AAS gained more LBM than a group of natural lifting males in the same amount of time. So technically, you can just sit on your ass and gain muscle. I will try and look for the study if I can remember where it is.

    I'm not saying to go out and buy some gear and watch TV, and just to clarify I am in no way, shape or form against the honest and educated use of steroids.

    Originally Posted by Griffin220x View Post
    He is a powerlifter and he also used to be a bodybuilder in his younger days. Also he has stated in several of his videos that he knows how to lower his body fat and look good but lowering his body fat at the moment does not suit his needs/goals because he is a powerlifter.
    Ah okay, cheers for the clarification. I just wondered how the guy knew so much about nutrition, bodybuilding (and steroids since we're on the topic) at that age and looked... well... he doesn't exactly look like he lifts. Not that it means anything to me whether he's huge or not, just an observation.

    Are there any pics of him when he had a better physique anywhere?
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