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    Question Any snake experts in the house?

    Any snake experts able to ID this one? It was in my driveway when I got home from work. Looks like it got a sparrow for lunch/dinner.

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    What does the head look like? Can't tell from pic. If it is in the pit viper family I would stay away.... kill it!
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    Looks like a grey rat snake. It is for sure a non-poisonous snake.
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    Looks kind of like a gopher snake in this pic:

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    Brother, I'm an 'expert' on freaking out when I see one! You can't see its' head very well. If you've ever had a water mocccasin rise up out of the water, two thirds of his freakin' body in the air, and make a bee-line for you, you'll understand what I mean!
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    It's head was underneath the birds wing, I got a look at it and it's small, like in the gopher picture I posted. The other gopher snakes I've seen at my house were darker though so this one is throwing me off a bit. I've killed numerous rattlesnakes over the years but this isn't a rattler. I've also seen a few gartersnakes but they're usually really small and easy to ID. My old dog Blazer was bitten twice by rattlers, Chevy seems to know not to screw with them.

    Anyway, I'm curious more than anything. I'm not killing a snake that goes after rats, mice and gophers.

    This seems like the best resource I've found so far: http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/snakespics.html
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    I was going to say that first pic looks like a gopher snake. I had one as a pet for 5 years as a kid. I wouldn't kill a snake in the driveway either unless it was poisonous, which is easy to tell in the US.
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    Originally Posted by Getsum View Post
    It's head was underneath the birds wing, I got a look at it and it's small, like in the gopher picture I posted. The other gopher snakes I've seen at my house were darker though so this one is throwing me off a bit. I've killed numerous rattlesnakes over the years but this isn't a rattler. I've also seen a few gartersnakes but they're usually really small and easy to ID. My old dog Blazer was bitten twice by rattlers, Chevy seems to know not to screw with them.

    Anyway, I'm curious more than anything. I'm not killing a snake that goes after rats, mice and gophers.

    This seems like the best resource I've found so far: http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/snakespics.html
    I hear you on the rodent thing. Most snakes are handy to have around actually, if they don't scare you to death! My brother David was forever catching black snakes, king snakes, and bringing them home to set loose in the honeysuckle in the back yard when we were kids. I don't know how my Mom handled it! Pit vipers have a fist shaped head, they are ugly and mean looking. Ha!
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    I only freak out when I step on them with bare feet yikes!
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    I was going to say that first pic looks like a gopher snake. I had one as a pet for 5 years as a kid. I wouldn't kill a snake in the driveway either unless it was poisonous, which is easy to tell in the US.
    I had a really cool ball python for years but it finally died and I'm really not sure why, I was a really good about feeding him.

    I'm sure on another forum far, far away the following is taking place:

    Can anyone ID this human, fat fukcer looks like he can put a hurting on some snake tacos!

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    Originally Posted by Getsum View Post
    lol



    I had a really cool ball python for years but it finally died and I'm really not sure why, I was a really good about feeding him.

    I'm sure on another forum far, far away the following is taking place:

    Can anyone ID this human, fat fukcer looks like he can put a hurting on some snake tacos!

    LOL Rattlesnake is pretty tasty! But I'll let someone else do the hunting.
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    Pretty sure it was a gopher snake, they do eat birds: http://www.californiaherps.com/snake...annectens.html
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    Originally Posted by Getsum View Post
    I had a really cool ball python for years but it finally died and I'm really not sure why, I was a really good about feeding him.
    Mine eventually died too, maybe of old age. He was pretty big for a gopher snake at 4 1/2 feet. He actually got out of his cage once and went missing in the house for a full year. He was still alive when I found him, just thinner. I didn't think they could survive that long without food. I had him for another couple years, so he got big and healthy again for a while.
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    Originally Posted by Getsum View Post
    It's head was underneath the birds wing, I got a look at it and it's small, like in the gopher picture I posted. The other gopher snakes I've seen at my house were darker though so this one is throwing me off a bit.
    Don't really know much about snakes in your part of the world.They look a bit lighter after they have sloughed,skin is nice and fresh.One thing I have learned is to treat them all as dangerous until you have a positive ID on them.I've seen brown snakes that are quite dark,and some that are so pale they look almost white in the sunlight,but still aggressive and super dangerous.
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    The joys of being in a no snake country, would not want to be within 50ft of anything like that ragardless how "harmless" it may or may not be

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    My vote is also for gopher snake.

    It's so sad to see all the run-over snakes in the spring.

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    Originally Posted by pvsampson View Post
    Don't really know much about snakes in your part of the world.They look a bit lighter after they have sloughed,skin is nice and fresh.One thing I have learned is to treat them all as dangerous until you have a positive ID on them.I've seen brown snakes that are quite dark,and some that are so pale they look almost white in the sunlight,but still aggressive and super dangerous.
    Snakes in your part of the world are totally different than here. Nothing here kills you in seconds.
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    Originally Posted by pvsampson View Post
    Don't really know much about snakes in your part of the world.They look a bit lighter after they have sloughed,skin is nice and fresh.One thing I have learned is to treat them all as dangerous until you have a positive ID on them.I've seen brown snakes that are quite dark,and some that are so pale they look almost white in the sunlight,but still aggressive and super dangerous.
    Well sh!t, you live in Austrailia. Don't most of the world's most poisonous snakes take up residence in your country? If I lived there, I'd be sh!tting my pants every time I saw a snake.
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    When I lived in the Northern Territory,I was told that if you get bitten,to sit down in the shade and roll a smoke.

    Because it was the last one you were ever going to have.

    I have a snake bite kit handy....3 long compression bandages.If bandaged properly one has around an hour before things start getting seriously life threatening.Without a bandage,you're in trouble in about 15-20 mins.That's for the Taipan,Brown,Clarence River Scaly Back and Death Adder.The Red Belly Black will make you pretty crook,but aren't aggressive...will kill a small kid though if not treated.HEAPS of Red Bellies,Browns,Scaly backs and Death Adders in my general vicinity.Browns are real angry f#ckers,will chase you and lightning quick,and I avoid them as much as possible.Blacks will try and get away,Scalies tend to hunt on hot nights near creeks and rivers.Death Adders hide under leaves and use their tails as a lure and won't move so you have to watch where you are going under gum trees.

    Just have to be "aware"
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    Originally Posted by pvsampson View Post
    When I lived in the Northern Territory,I was told that if you get bitten,to sit down in the shade and roll a smoke.

    Because it was the last one you were ever going to have.

    I have a snake bite kit handy....3 long compression bandages.If bandaged properly one has around an hour before things start getting seriously life threatening.Without a bandage,you're in trouble in about 15-20 mins.That's for the Taipan,Brown,Clarence River Scaly Back and Death Adder.The Red Belly Black will make you pretty crook,but aren't aggressive...will kill a small kid though if not treated.HEAPS of Red Bellies,Browns,Scaly backs and Death Adders in my general vicinity.Browns are real angry f#ckers,will chase you and lightning quick,and I avoid them as much as possible.Blacks will try and get away,Scalies tend to hunt on hot nights near creeks and rivers.Death Adders hide under leaves and use their tails as a lure and won't move so you have to watch where you are going under gum trees.

    Just have to be "aware"
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    Originally Posted by pvsampson View Post
    When I lived in the Northern Territory,I was told that if you get bitten,to sit down in the shade and roll a smoke.

    Because it was the last one you were ever going to have.

    I have a snake bite kit handy....3 long compression bandages.If bandaged properly one has around an hour before things start getting seriously life threatening.Without a bandage,you're in trouble in about 15-20 mins.That's for the Taipan,Brown,Clarence River Scaly Back and Death Adder.The Red Belly Black will make you pretty crook,but aren't aggressive...will kill a small kid though if not treated.HEAPS of Red Bellies,Browns,Scaly backs and Death Adders in my general vicinity.Browns are real angry f#ckers,will chase you and lightning quick,and I avoid them as much as possible.Blacks will try and get away,Scalies tend to hunt on hot nights near creeks and rivers.Death Adders hide under leaves and use their tails as a lure and won't move so you have to watch where you are going under gum trees.

    Just have to be "aware"
    Yeah, worst we had where I lived was rattlesnakes. They will f'ck your sh!t up, but they won't kill you in minutes. They will however, inject digestive enzymes into your flesh turning everything (including bone) necrotic.
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    Originally Posted by pvsampson View Post
    When I lived in the Northern Territory,I was told that if you get bitten,to sit down in the shade and roll a smoke.

    Because it was the last one you were ever going to have.

    I have a snake bite kit handy....3 long compression bandages.If bandaged properly one has around an hour before things start getting seriously life threatening.Without a bandage,you're in trouble in about 15-20 mins.That's for the Taipan,Brown,Clarence River Scaly Back and Death Adder.The Red Belly Black will make you pretty crook,but aren't aggressive...will kill a small kid though if not treated.HEAPS of Red Bellies,Browns,Scaly backs and Death Adders in my general vicinity.Browns are real angry f#ckers,will chase you and lightning quick,and I avoid them as much as possible.Blacks will try and get away,Scalies tend to hunt on hot nights near creeks and rivers.Death Adders hide under leaves and use their tails as a lure and won't move so you have to watch where you are going under gum trees.

    Just have to be "aware"
    Has your bull been bitten? I gotta wonder how many livestock are lost to snakes.
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    I have lost two dogs to rattlers. Had a horse that was bitten on the nose by a copperhead, he didn't die but was in poor shape for a while.
    Here are a couple of rattlers frm my yard.

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    Originally Posted by pvsampson View Post
    When I lived in the Northern Territory,I was told that if you get bitten,to sit down in the shade and roll a smoke.

    Because it was the last one you were ever going to have.

    I have a snake bite kit handy....3 long compression bandages.If bandaged properly one has around an hour before things start getting seriously life threatening.Without a bandage,you're in trouble in about 15-20 mins.That's for the Taipan,Brown,Clarence River Scaly Back and Death Adder.The Red Belly Black will make you pretty crook,but aren't aggressive...will kill a small kid though if not treated.HEAPS of Red Bellies,Browns,Scaly backs and Death Adders in my general vicinity.Browns are real angry f#ckers,will chase you and lightning quick,and I avoid them as much as possible.Blacks will try and get away,Scalies tend to hunt on hot nights near creeks and rivers.Death Adders hide under leaves and use their tails as a lure and won't move so you have to watch where you are going under gum trees.

    Just have to be "aware"
    Well, ****, so looks like I'm in need of a new fallback country. Reading this made me want to throw up. I hate snakes.
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    I'm no expert on snakes,but i'm pretty sure it's a Burmese python.
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    Originally Posted by EB68 View Post
    I have lost two dogs to rattlers. Had a horse that was bitten on the nose by a copperhead, he didn't die but was in poor shape for a while.
    Here are a couple of rattlers frm my yard.

    Wow. And you only live 30 minutes away. Only copperheads here in the burbs.
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