I'm going to write about this until I get the desired response. Since my experiments with abstinence I began to notice a trend or curve in the past 8 months. I noticed that if I ejaculate after 20-30 days, I still have a "Reserve" ammount of sperm left-over.
The last time I hit 20 days, it happened. I began to become impatient. Lethargic. Lose focus. Tense. Unable to focus. Pent up. Stressed out. I had a release (Masturbated without porn) and waited another 20 days.
Wether or not I desire to release that "reserve" depends upon my ammount of self control.
It seems that I can hold about 30 days worth of sperm. One ejaculation seems to cut me to about "Half glass." but I can continue my life feeling completely unaffected. It's kind of like using half a tank of gas but not being completely run out of it.
If I were to masturbate, TWO times and ejaculate TWICE, then I would feel completely drained and have to do an entire reboot.
This is why I am touching on the subject.
Around the 20 day mark, I tend to get extremely cranky. I begin to feel the pressure building up in the erroginous zones. From there I notice that I become aggressive, sleep less, cranky, less in tune to life, in a sense that I become more stern and less relaxed. Sure I can get things done, but I my stress levels tend to skyrocket.
04-20-2013, 11:29 PM #1
Nofap: Causing stress, irritability, and other things. Release?
04-20-2013, 11:30 PM #2
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04-20-2013, 11:30 PM #3
Many people here are proponents of no-fap but say they don't see benefits until 30 or 40 days, some don't see benefits at all. What I noticed is this is entirely a combination of your mental attitude about yourself and your level of recovery. Here's a quote from YBOP about a guy who masturbated without porn.
"Just MO was almost shocking at the finale, because I had no buzz, no shift of perception. It turned out to be a sweet, invigorating feeling.
The full PMO session felt like I was totally on a DRUG. Every picture turned my body into a searing blast of tension, each new one more powerful than the last. I felt almost like a "dope surge" run from my brain through my body.Suddenly I could hear and feel EVERYTHING more intensely. Then it was like a cloud of idiocy swept over my being, and everything went numb. That feeling lasted FOREVER. Like, two days at least."
I recently masturbated without porn. I calculate one ejaculation spends about 10 days worth of sperm, (Give or take, it could be different depending on who you are) - So instead of doing a full reset, I figured since I had 20 days worth of sperm build up, I would go back to day 10.
The feeling is that I am still envigorated. I feel energized and more motivated then I did at the 20 day mark. My stress levels went from 100% to about 40% and I feel fantastic. I feel optimistic. I feel laid back. I feel extrovert again.
See, if I let the days continue without any relase, usually around day 20-30 I become very tense. Very aggressive. And I also become cranky. I then begin to become cranky that I had no release, and I also become cranky and go back to my introverted ways, trying to force myslelf to be happy.
The truth is, I needed a release and I feel my my moods have leveled out.
People here have wet dreams, but refuse to acknowledge this is a loss in semen retention. A wet dream is more sexually stimulating then a masturbation session without fantasy. In fact, I just stared at a blank wall and finished just to get the "tubes clear." it was completely unsensual, only took me about 20 seconds, and it was a done deal.
The nap, and stress relief that followed was worth it 100 fold. My mood is completely leveled out. I am calm, clear and consice. Yet when we have wet dreams, these are excuseable. There is no difference. You are being sexually stimulated until you have a release.
I tend to use my counter as sort of a sperm-meter. I like to see how much sperm I have built up in my system. I also have a seperate counter for how I use porn.
I can go 20 days without PMO, and still become cranky, aggressive, agitated with life, yet a simple release of the tension, (No porn, just M and O) would idle my mind out and bring me clarity.
I limit it to one session, until I feel I would need another stress release. (Usually around the 20-30 day mark)
I have not seen any significant benefits usually from day 14-30, other then I become increasingly agressive, sleep less, and am generally stressed out about life. I will continue to observe the correlation between my stress levels and sperm build-up. If I feel that completely withdrawing from ejaculation wether from a non porn induced masturbation session, real sex, or a wet dream has any benefits, I will continue. Until then, the pressure in the lower region, stress, agitation, and aggression to myself will signify that it is not beneficial.
Usually around the 8-14 day mark I feel the most balanced and complete. I tend to become more socially extravert, enjoy the peace of life, and enjoy who I am and flow outward. Around the 20 day mark is where the agitation and aggression builds up.
WET DREAMS. If you have Wet dreams, you are getting a release. Wether it is 15-20 days in, or 30 days in, you are getting a release. I have trained myself to not have wet dreams. However, despite this, I still see an opposite effect of benefits happening around the 20 day mark. As I write this, I notice I am irritable. I am getting frustrated that I am not getting any type of sex or release. I have abstained from sex with my GF. I hear a lot of people talk about "God mode" and Uber powers .
Tell me where do they come from?
When I give my self a release, is when I feel fantastic for the oncomign days. I am relaxed, I Can focus on what I want to do, and my mind isn't annoyed at the thought of wanting to ejaculate.
WET DREAMS, and SEX.
People here want to criticize my take on this, saying I am encouraging you to fap. I am not. What I am saying is, what happens when we don't get a release? People here talk about having sex with their woman and getting a release. People here talk about having a Wet dream (The same as having a release) - the benefits happen regardless.
WHEN YOU EJACULATE, THROUGH SEX, A WET DREAM, OR MASTURBATING, YOU ARE HAVING A RELEASE. NO IFFS, ANDS OR BUTTS.
Those of you who want to disagree with me about getting a release through non-porn masturbation better have 30-40 days + without any ejaculation through Wet dreams or sex with their partner.
Another funny thing people try to say is go 90 days to get the full benefits. What they don't disclose is that they actually have 1 or 2 wet dreams, and also have sex with their girlfriends and consider that as perfectly Okay, despite getting 5 releases. What about the man who has 34 days of unaltered, semen build up without release, has anyone ever done that? I can assure you you are so pent up, angry, hostile and blue balled this "experiment" isn't enjoyable anymore.
In fact, it may even begin to make you almost aggressive, and unhappy. I read that there have been studies in certain areas (Don't have the specific source) of celibacy, the act of abstaining from ejaculation for longer periods of time lead to higher instances of violence / Rape. Even the catholic priests who practice this tend to take their frustrations out on the poor youth.
If we are constantly in a state of semen production, and we willfully do not engage in a release, and in fact prevent our own wet dreams, what kind of consequences are we doing to our mental health?
I don't want to hear anyone who has had a wet dream in the past month, or sex with their girlfriend. I am talking strictly someone who has not lost a drop of semen. Thanks.