Did anyone say religion of peace?
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04-20-2013, 11:59 AM #301
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04-20-2013, 12:01 PM #302
Multiculturalism of peace. Sh!t like this isn't even rare anymore in Europe. Typical liberal European ideology. Herp derp the world is one big giant paradise lets integrate culture and help all these random third world people by taking them in......
Lets be real here people. Unregulated immigration is a plague and multiculturalism is a joke if your culture is superior to the one trying to integrate with yours.
And whats funny is this is one of the rare instances where this makes the news. I guarantee you they sweep most of them under the rug because they are so politically correct.
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04-20-2013, 12:03 PM #303
Read that Wordpress article and made me come to a realization about something.
It seems that so many Europeans are hellbent on making the US out to be this racist and bigoted country when I have had no worries about being my skin color and having a great time here. Many European countries brag about how open minded and accepting they are and then you read about how tough of a time anyone who is Middle Eastern looking has there and you think to yourself what is going on. Yet in general it seems like places that are quick to brag about how "accepting" they are tend to be the ones with the most "closet racism" or "hidden racism". Like you won't have to worry about being assaulted or killed for looking the way you do. You will on the other hand have to deal with the fact that you are automatically sub-human to most of the people in a given country due to your appearance and will be treated like crap without even knowing it.
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Regardless, I still find story in the OP to be very believable. Based on what I have heard and experienced, Middle Eastern/Persian men are extremely crazy about the idea of getting with a White Western woman, more so than any other kind of men out there. Most see themselves as White European too. I am Brown myself (not Middle Eastern) and it is insane how much these guys dedicate their lives to being with a White girl, like it is literally winning the lottery to them.
Guess in a way the immigrants benefit like crazy. They are in a country where they don't have to work, blondes running around, and if they do something to them they get sent to hotel-like prisons. This is almost too hard to believe.Last edited by CardiganBrah; 04-20-2013 at 12:24 PM.
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04-20-2013, 12:13 PM #307
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Is there a democratic process there? Are these policies forced upon you? The welfare situation? The immigration policy that doesn't interview immigrants? If your country as a whole VOTED these laws into effect then it becomes difficult to see past the fact that you brought this upon yourselves when you effectively import criminals and terrorists.
If this is the case then I'm sorry for your position but you are a minority and the rest of your country WANTS THIS TO HAPPEN. People can talk until the pigs fly but their actions are what matters.
Side note, how strong is feminism over there? I wouldn't be surprised if you are a country run by women and their "feels"
By the way, what are gun laws like in the scandinavian countries? lol.
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04-20-2013, 12:18 PM #310
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wtf is going on in europe. I live in LA and there are a lot of muslims and middle easterners around me srs. never once heard them advocate or even mention sharia law. Not sure about rape either, they are all pretty nice and also real smart. Most go to UCLA too.
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04-20-2013, 12:25 PM #312βWe have these β these talking heads who have gotten the vaccine and are telling other people not to get the vaccine,β Gov. Spencer Cox (R) said.
βThat kind of stuff is just, itβs ridiculous. Itβs dangerous, itβs damaging, and itβs killing people. I mean, itβs literally killing their supporters. And that makes no sense to me.β
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04-20-2013, 12:46 PM #313
There is a clear connection between this case and what is explicitly stated in the Qur'an. I won't offer any further personal opinion as this topic is sensitive to many.
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam
Islam allows a man to have intercourse with his slave woman, whether he has a wife or wives or he is not married...Whoever regards that as haraam is a sinner who is going against the consensus of the scholars.Verse 4:24
Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek them from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication. So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due, but if you agree mutually after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.What we see in the beginning of this verse as “forbidden” refers to sexual intercourse. The Qur'an dictates, women already married are forbidden for Muslims except those whom their right hands possess (sex slaves).Context
It is important to know the context of this verse, as it sheds light onto the nature of allowance. If we go through a Sahih Hadith in Sunan Abu Dawud:
Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24]Sahih Muslim. Chapter 29: Title: It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified of menses or delivery. In case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive.
Ibn Kathir, the most prominent of all Qur'an interpreters, had this to say in regards to verse 4:24:
The Ayah (verses) means Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess.), you are prohibited from marrying women who are already married, except those whom your right hands possess) except those whom you acquire through war, for you are allowed such women after making sure they are not pregnant. Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah (verse) was revealed, Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess). Accordingly, we had sexual relations with these women." (Alternate translation can be: as a result of these verses, their (Infidels) wives have become lawful for us) This is the wording collected by At-Tirmidhi An-Nasa'i, Ibn Jarir and Muslim in his Sahih.Verses 23:1-6
There are other verses in the Qur'an similar to verse 4:24. For example, Surah al-Mumenoon makes mention of successful Muslims and their characteristics:
Successful indeed are the believers, who are humble in their prayers and who keep aloof from what is vain and who are givers of poor-rate and who guard their private parts, except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blamable.
Qur'an 23:1-6
Guarding private parts is denotative of abstaining from sexual activities. The Qur'an points out successful believers are those who are indulging in sexual activities only with their wives and sex-slaves.Verses 70:29-30
This is confirmed again in Surah al-Maarij:
And those who guard their private parts, except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess-- for these surely are not to be blamed,Muhammad
This practice of raping war captives was practiced by Islam’s very own prophet Muhammad, in his life. On two occasions, he married (for the sake of sexual gratification only) war captives and raped them. Those victims were namely Safiyah and Juwairiyah.Conclusion
From 4:24, it can be rightly assumed, that the Qur'an does not see any wrong-doing in Muslims having sex with captive women even if these women are married and their husbands are still alive. This clearly indicates that the Qur'an allows rape, as captive women, even in the unlikely case of agreeing to sexual intercourse, would still be having that intercourse under duress.
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04-20-2013, 02:08 PM #314
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04-20-2013, 04:47 PM #316
This is happening in ALL North/West Europe countries.
In the UK, most people have given up hope on our immigration policies changing.
If you even mention anything about the deliberate and reckless policy on immigration you are labelled as a racist and bigot.
I have no problem with immigrants who are here to fill a skill shortage (which the UK has never truly had), but having a deliberate open door policy on immigration, is ****ing ridiculous, and deserves the hate it gets.
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04-20-2013, 06:52 PM #317
I swear one day white people are gonna snap because of all these immigrants causing sht...Reps for life: PjzBoozer
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04-20-2013, 07:11 PM #318
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04-20-2013, 07:17 PM #319
No pity for those ******* liberal european countries (Sweden,Holland,Norway).
BRB Highly educated, homogenized, successful culture.
Lets bring in filth to add diversity to our culture derp.
BRB lets have no standards to who we let immigrate.
BRB rapes and crime rates go up.
BRB still liberal. Its their environment. BRB lets send them to our hotel prisons.
No pity.You deserve what you settle for.
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04-20-2013, 07:22 PM #320
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04-20-2013, 07:45 PM #328
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04-20-2013, 07:53 PM #329
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04-20-2013, 07:57 PM #330
The collective IQ of most posters in this thread does not amount to 1 neuron in my ass.
1- Strong Source OP, Full of false information and sensationalism.
2- Even stronger Sheep after OP - who only seek to confirm of their bigoted prejudice or are mere idiots-.
3- They are not from ME - Afghanistan is not in the ME-
That said, They must get the severest of punishments and be deported -which they will-.
I hope she is better now.
Other more reliable source : http://www.thelocal.se/40208/20120411/#.UVBuk77D-Hu (no wheel chair, 3 on 1 action, ..etc)
really misc, Digital journal .... fukin buffoons.
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Why the fuk did I bother posting ?Last edited by SkinnyAbs91; 04-20-2013 at 08:02 PM.
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