Question about SIDE LATERAL RAISE for shoulders ?

[Elian16]

So i've heard that the best way to develop the medial deltoid is to do side raises.

But see, SCOOBY on youtube says to do them with your palms turned outwards, facing infront of you, and with perfectly straight arms.
But other websites say that you should do them with your arm bent slightly, and using a normal grip, palms facing towards each other ...


Also, should i hit my shoulders three times a week, even if it isn't their day ? for example, i hit them both on shoulder day and chest day, but for the third time, i would need to hit them on leg and abs day. Should i ? like add in overhead press sets and side laterals at the end of the workout or what ?

I know it seems very unusual and stuff but many people on these forums have done that and they say their shoulders have grown tons.

My shoulder is my week point and grows very slowly !

[rosselhauff]

If you want to, go ahead and isolate your shoulder once a week, but any more than that is overkill. Any good chest routine will also hit anterior deltoid and your back routine will hit posterior deltoid. As long as some work is done on the medial deltoid (e.g. Side raises) you'll be fine. As far as proper form goes, i suggest the bent elbow way. Straight arms tend to hurt my elbows and I've never heard someone suggest it before.

[Max94]

I'm no expert but I always do them palms facing toward eachother, as for your shoulder workouts, if they're your weakpoint then yes I'd suggest amping up the frequency, just make sure you get about 48hr rest inbetween hitting your shoulders directly.

[superstylr]

My shoulder is my week point and grows very slowly !

You're 16 years old, 5'10 149lbs... I don't think you have any "weak points" per se... your entire body is weak.

I recommend you follow one of the stickied beginners programs in the workout programs section.

[XxLiveIronxX]

I'm no expert but I always do them palms facing toward eachother, as for your shoulder workouts, if they're your weakpoint then yes I'd suggest amping up the frequency, just make sure you get about 48hr rest inbetween hitting your shoulders directly.

Agree here with Max. Another good medial lift for me is upright rows with a cable. I have a bum shoulder and I found it substantially decreases my shoulder pain but I still get a good lift from it.

[GeneralSerpant]

I feel that medial delts are the prime mover, no matter which way your hands are facing. Anterior and posterior delts act as stabilizers to provide leverage for lifting weight to your shoulder height. As smaller muscles, the leverage that they provide will illicit more tension than the lateral actually pulling the movement.

Whether that is the case or not, emphasizing the posterior deltoid instead of the anterior deltoid may work the lateral deltoid slightly differently. It really depends on which part is stronger/weaker for you, personally.

You're 16 years old, 5'10 149lbs... I don't think you have any "weak points" per se... your entire body is weak.

He could have advantaged parts of his body. Weak points may be due to adolescent development, but it's possible he could have figured out which parts of his body they are at.

[stealth_swimmer]

If you want to, go ahead and isolate your shoulder once a week, but any more than that is overkill. Any good chest routine will also hit anterior deltoid and your back routine will hit posterior deltoid. As long as some work is done on the medial deltoid (e.g. Side raises) you'll be fine. As far as proper form goes, i suggest the bent elbow way. Straight arms tend to hurt my elbows and I've never heard someone suggest it before.

This. Front delts get hit both on shoulder workouts with overhead presses as well as on chest workouts with those presses. If you're gonna hit shoulders directly twice a week, I'd say the second day just do work for the medial delt and rear delt. Don't forget to do rotator cuff exercises on one of those days as well.

[Elian16]

You're 16 years old, 5'10 149lbs... I don't think you have any "weak points" per se... your entire body is weak.

I recommend you follow one of the stickied beginners programs in the workout programs section.

That isn't entirely true. I'm pretty big for my age, atleast compared to 20 of my classmates ... and i have been working out strictly for a year and half now, i don't think a beginner workout suits me very much.

The statistics on my profile arent entirely accurate, since i use the metric system and it's in the U.S measurement system. I haven't measured my height in a while either ...

[wadboram]

For me I tried SCOOBY's raises,palms turned outwards, and I got better medial shoulder muscles than the normal lateral raises.

[schneppy07]

So i've heard that the best way to develop the medial deltoid is to do side raises.

But see, SCOOBY on youtube says to do them with your palms turned outwards, facing infront of you, and with perfectly straight arms.
But other websites say that you should do them with your arm bent slightly, and using a normal grip, palms facing towards each other ...


Also, should i hit my shoulders three times a week, even if it isn't their day ? for example, i hit them both on shoulder day and chest day, but for the third time, i would need to hit them on leg and abs day. Should i ? like add in overhead press sets and side laterals at the end of the workout or what ?

I know it seems very unusual and stuff but many people on these forums have done that and they say their shoulders have grown tons.

My shoulder is my week point and grows very slowly !

Id just do a basic dumbell press or a barbell shoulder press for over all mass. If you want to emphisize your side delt you can do dumbell presses and tilt your thumb down, kinda like a form of arnold press. I would only do them twice at the most, thats just me though. You have to remember your shoulder are getting worked in other back and chest movements also.