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    Talking Dhea, benefits and possible negative effects

    turned 36 in december bought some sci-fit DHEA 25MG tabs, taking them 3 x week for first two weeks, now taking 25mg on workout days 5-6 x week, is this dosage good or too much...also taking yohimbine 2.5mg x workout day. not sure which of the two have increased my libido...
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    Originally Posted by hex75 View Post
    turned 36 in december bought some sci-fit DHEA 25MG tabs, taking them 3 x week for first two weeks, now taking 25mg on workout days 5-6 x week, is this dosage good or too much...also taking yohimbine 2.5mg x workout day. not sure which of the two have increased my libido...
    All sorts of reasons to take DHEA in terms of overall health immune system and ageing.

    Zero for BB strictly speaking.
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    Only supplement DHEA if your levels are low. Get tested...period if you feel you need to take it. Any excess will convert to estrogen....not a benefit.
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    Only supplement DHEA if your levels are low. Get tested...period if you feel you need to take it. Any excess will convert to estrogen....not a benefit.
    I would take it with Formadrol Extreme for that very reason.

    But if he's naturally too low in estrogen that might be the reason for his increased libido anyways....
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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    I wonder if one shouldn't take it with an AE like Formadorl just for that reason?
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    Originally Posted by hex75 View Post
    also taking yohimbine 2.5mg x workout day. not sure which of the two have increased my libido...
    The yohimbine will jack up your blood pressure and make you twitchy, but over the counter stuff will do nothing for your impotence. For that you should see a doctor.
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    Originally Posted by drudixon View Post
    Lol for dhea....


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    Have you ever tried Formadrol?

    Even if DHEA doesn't do jack the formadrol likely will.

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    Originally Posted by BillReilly View Post
    The yohimbine will jack up your blood pressure and make you twitchy, but over the counter stuff will do nothing for your impotence. For that you should see a doctor.
    Where did he say he was impotent??
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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    Where did he say he was impotent??
    I thought it was assumed. Anytime a man our age starts talking about his "libido" I just assume he means his rope has lost hope.
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    Originally Posted by hex75 View Post
    .... not sure which of the two have increased my libido...
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    I thought it was assumed. Anytime a man our age starts talking about his "libido" I just assume he means his rope has lost hope.
    We all do it from time to time...
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    Originally Posted by BillReilly View Post
    I thought it was assumed. Anytime a man our age starts talking about his "libido" I just assume he means his rope has lost hope.
    No desire and a limp snake don't have to go hand in hand...

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    We all do it from time to time...
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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    No desire and a limp snake don't have to go hand in hand...



    Speak for yourself. Never had a denial of service myself.
    Hahaha.... actually....I WAS referring to him missing the OP's original point!

    But I get your "point"!

    Not literally, of course... figuratively..
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    well apparently people use DHEA to combat lethargy when riding bicycles. from what i have read, they take 100-200mg of it per day.
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    DHEA is a non regulated hormone. You should not take this just because you can purchase it in a store. Go get tested by a hormone doc, an endo. He will help you and advise if you need it. The hormonal system is not something to mess around with.
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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post
    No desire and a limp snake don't have to go hand in hand...
    This is my nomination for post of the year.
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    This is my nomination for post of the year.
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    About dhea

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    I'm 40. I've been taking 25mg of DHEA a day for 6 months. I've never noticed any difference so I stopped taking it. Never noticed any difference when I stopped either.
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    Originally Posted by Robosco View Post
    I'm 40. I've been taking 25mg of DHEA a day for 6 months. I've never noticed any difference so I stopped taking it. Never noticed any difference when I stopped either.
    Oral DHEA has horrible bioavailability, as low as 3%. The dose you were taking was too low.
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    Oral DHEA has horrible bioavailability, as low as 3%. The dose you were taking was too low.
    According to my endocrinoligist, DHEA should not be swallowed because the digestive tract can tear it down and the first pass through the liver makes it highly likely to be converted to estrogen straight away. The way to take DHEA is to cut the little pills in quarters and take them sub-lingually. They will absorb pretty well under the tongue. Some are specifically designed for that but those that are not are just tolerably bitter and leave a very fine grit that can be swalled harmlessly after you've given it ten to fifteen minutes for absorption. When training hard and waking up after a very good nights sleep when a cup of coffee doesn't perk me up, a 1/4 of a 50mg DHEA under the tongue, sometimes a second one, will get the metabolism kicking again. That makes the "day after" slow recovery aerobic tolerable and helps with the energy to complete a 45 min session of Yoga and various body weight exercises afterwards. DHEA level in the body should be noticeable when you get out of bed as a feeling that you got a good night's sleep and you're raring to go. But when you awake, have slept plenty of hours and you still feel like crap, its coffee first, then DHEA under the tongue. Some mornings, I can actually feel a sensation wave across my body as if homeostasis was resetting due to the DHEA under the tongue.

    After very hard training, the adrenals can get pretty tired when we get older and not put out the DHEA for the morning rise from bed that they should. DHEA levels should peak by Noontime for most people's schedules. My DHEA was measured at 9am at only 216 out of a range of 16-1636 ng/dL after a very slow 7 mile jog. All other hormones were enviable considering my age. My main complaint was slow recovery taking several days from exercise and a feeling of residual fatigue after rising from a good night's sleep. I had been taking 50mg of DHEA daily for several months just to get the 216 reading. The endocrinologist concluded that I certainly wasn't taking too much and the results indicated I was low compared to robust results in free T and total T, LH, FSH. So he told me that I should continue to use the DHEA on an "as needed" basis which was a very conservative way to employ it without causing excess estrogen. He recommended the sub-lingual method for best results and I've found it noticeably effective where I could actually feel better energy when I would have been really fatigued without the supplement. Apparently the websites that extoll the virtues of DHEA have got a very good point for older people and particularly older athletes. Couldn't care less about it being "banned". May as well ban vitamin C too.
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    Unless a blood test showed I needed DHEA I wouldn't take it as it is a precursor to test and estrogen. Try a test booster for your libido - or talk to your Dr about HRT ... the best way to up your test levels is test!
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    According to my endocrinoligist, DHEA should not be swallowed because the digestive tract can tear it down and the first pass through the liver makes it highly likely to be converted to estrogen straight away. The way to take DHEA is to cut the little pills in quarters and take them sub-lingually. They will absorb pretty well under the tongue. Some are specifically designed for that but those that are not are just tolerably bitter and leave a very fine grit that can be swalled harmlessly after you've given it ten to fifteen minutes for absorption. When training hard and waking up after a very good nights sleep when a cup of coffee doesn't perk me up, a 1/4 of a 50mg DHEA under the tongue, sometimes a second one, will get the metabolism kicking again. That makes the "day after" slow recovery aerobic tolerable and helps with the energy to complete a 45 min session of Yoga and various body weight exercises afterwards. DHEA level in the body should be noticeable when you get out of bed as a feeling that you got a good night's sleep and you're raring to go. But when you awake, have slept plenty of hours and you still feel like crap, its coffee first, then DHEA under the tongue. Some mornings, I can actually feel a sensation wave across my body as if homeostasis was resetting due to the DHEA under the tongue.

    After very hard training, the adrenals can get pretty tired when we get older and not put out the DHEA for the morning rise from bed that they should. DHEA levels should peak by Noontime for most people's schedules. My DHEA was measured at 9am at only 216 out of a range of 16-1636 ng/dL after a very slow 7 mile jog. All other hormones were enviable considering my age. My main complaint was slow recovery taking several days from exercise and a feeling of residual fatigue after rising from a good night's sleep. I had been taking 50mg of DHEA daily for several months just to get the 216 reading. The endocrinologist concluded that I certainly wasn't taking too much and the results indicated I was low compared to robust results in free T and total T, LH, FSH. So he told me that I should continue to use the DHEA on an "as needed" basis which was a very conservative way to employ it without causing excess estrogen. He recommended the sub-lingual method for best results and I've found it noticeably effective where I could actually feel better energy when I would have been really fatigued without the supplement. Apparently the websites that extoll the virtues of DHEA have got a very good point for older people and particularly older athletes. Couldn't care less about it being "banned". May as well ban vitamin C too.
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    I find it amazing that people still doubt DHEA especially for older guys. There's a reason it's banned in sports and the Olympics. Leroy Colbert swears by the stuff.
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