One-two month psmf, neg me if I don't get a six pack within two months.

[JahSouljah]

How come you haven't lost all your muscle? most people on here say this diet just says goodbye to all your gains?

[Neg_Train]

How come you haven't lost all your muscle? most people on here say this diet just says goodbye to all your gains?

combination of weight training+ protein sparing

[JahSouljah]

Its the amount of calories that gets me 1070 calories? ive been lead to believe that that is just ridiculous even if you keep protein high and lift...This guy's results seem so suggest other wise.

[saw7988]

This forum is pretty much the king of being anti-toolowcalories... if that makes sense, haha. But muscle loss is pretty overrated. You can deficit pretty hard and go pretty far maximizing muscle with just hitting protein and lifting heavy. If anything is going to help OP preserve muscle better IMO it's lifting less frequently.

[Ravock]

I wouldn't do any cardio OP. Just stick with your plan. The weight will start moving again. Just keep doing your thing.

[youngblu]

Amazing progress, but all that hard lifting. If you truly are lifting focusd and intense, you can still put on mass cutting. Your deficit is just so large.

Your goals aren't mine. I'd like to recommend getting there slower and learning to eat and be happy doing it. Can't wait to see you bulk.

[youngblu]

What strategies do you use to deal with hunger? It's definitely a mental game, but beyond that, i.e. Craploads of water, brushing teeth, constantly busy etc...

[Formerfatso]

Day 44:
Morning weight: 173.0 lbs(weight lost from beginning-23.6 lbs)
Down 0.2 lbs from yesterday. Just gonna take this one day at a time now, made it this far so it would be shame to end it now. 13 days to go. Legs and abs today.

just try some low intensity cardio if you want to start doing some. i know how you feel (to a lesser extent, i'm sure) about feeling like you gotta do it but just not having an ounce of energy in the tank to go for a jog or whatever. but whenever i feel that bad, i'll just walk on an incline on a treadmill. it's mindless, easy and really doesnt take much effort to get going.

that's what i would do anyway

Good idea about the incline walking, might give that a try, thanks.

How come you haven't lost all your muscle? most people on here say this diet just says goodbye to all your gains?

I'm pretty sure I lost some muscle, but it's not as dramatic as people were saying it's gonna be. I actually think it's because I'm lifting everyday instead of just the recommended 3 days a week, that helps maintaining it maybe.

What strategies do you use to deal with hunger? It's definitely a mental game, but beyond that, i.e. Craploads of water, brushing teeth, constantly busy etc...

Physically I don't get hungry, I just got used to not eating at this point. It's just a mental game like you said, like when I see some good food just thinking about how awesome it must taste, then I remind myself I'm still a fat fuk and I'm good to go. But no special strategies, just willpower I guess.

[calutaxi]

What strategies do you use to deal with hunger? It's definitely a mental game, but beyond that, i.e. Craploads of water, brushing teeth, constantly busy etc...

Water definitely helps, so do green veggies.
I'm about to wrap up my own PSMF, and I didn't find hunger to be TOO much a of an issue. I just kind of powered through it at the worst point, or ate something with negligible calories (like a cucumber or something).

[CarlosInTampa]

OP, chin up, you're killing it. I know how frustrating the stall is right now. Hoping another whoosh come through for you in the next couple days.
interested to hear how the LISS walking will affect things.
keep on keepin on

[Formerfatso]

OP, chin up, you're killing it. I know how frustrating the stall is right now. Hoping another whoosh come through for you in the next couple days.
interested to hear how the LISS walking will affect things.
keep on keepin on

Thx man, it is frustrating, but there's nothing else to do just wait it out, hoping for another whoosh too. Couldn't do any cardio today after leg day, but I'll do some in next two days, we'll see what happens.

[Chicago1287]

Man...I don't think you stalled. It just slowed down which I expected. Just keep it up.

[macsm01]

How come you haven't lost all your muscle? most people on here say this diet just says goodbye to all your gains?

As long as you stimulate muscle adequately, the body will continue to try and bulk / maintain them until a low body fat percentage is reached. For most they wont have to be very concerned until they get lower then 10%. If you throw out factors like over training for sports, but even intense cardio will only burn like 7g of muscle in an hour. Then. Typically, the only people that have to really worry about muscle loss are those who bulked for a long time and are near their genetic potential for muscle mass, or those who were previously on gear. I've seen enough incredible shrinking gear heads the past five plus years since the popularity of hgh and gear has increased quite a bit among weekend warriors and semi-pro's in the greater metro area.

[macsm01]

Thx man, it is frustrating, but there's nothing else to do just wait it out, hoping for another whoosh too. Couldn't do any cardio today after leg day, but I'll do some in next two days, we'll see what happens.

Like I posted before, your expectations based on your activity level are unrealistic. Unless your in the gym pounding out reps, you aren't expending that much energy lifting weights. Everyone on here is OMG 1100 cals a day! But when you are only burning a bit over 2k a day (since you sit in a truck driving all day and get no other activity outside of lifting to spare muscle), estimation is 2 lbs a week.

[Formerfatso]

Like I posted before, your expectations based on your activity level are unrealistic. Unless your in the gym pounding out reps, you aren't expending that much energy lifting weights. Everyone on here is OMG 1100 cals a day! But when you are only burning a bit over 2k a day (since you sit in a truck driving all day and get no other activity outside of lifting to spare muscle), estimation is 2 lbs a week.

You're right, 2 lbs a week now seems reasonable, maybe even optimistic considering lowered BMR and I also have less fat now so obviously it's gonna go slower.

[jtrain2323]

Just went back and looked at the previous pages and what all the people were saying and I was lol(ing) only 13 more days brah stay strong!!!! U got this

[Rman2013]

Only 13 days left keep going. Its crazy how the body tries to hold on to that last bit of bodyfat. Your progress is excellent so far , you took this longer than anyone I have seen.

[Formerfatso]

Thanks brahs, all the support here really makes it easier for me.

[VladimirN]

Hey man, awesome blog.

Just came here to say that you're lucky to see such consistent drops in weight.
I weigh myself first thing in the morning, hungry, thirsty, after taking a dump and my last several measurements are literally this:
80.1 kg
79.3
78.5
77.3
77.9
78.4
79
78.5
...

Each day differs for at least a pound, sometimes it's 5 pounds difference or even more. I'm making 7 day averages with Excel formula and still can't get such consistent drops. So chin up and these lack of weight changes shouldn't mean much.

[stingray72]

When you get off this diet remember your body hasnt had any real solid food for a long time so increase intake over several days or your body will be very unsettled.

[Ggoodenough]

When cutting, try cutting out more scoops of whey protein and fill the void with real food. If you're anything like me, you like to eat and a watery shake doesn't keep you full, it sounds like a good idea in theory, but the chances that you'll be able to hold only protein shakes for an extended period of time is unrealistic. I'd only do this for a few days to shrink your stomach so that real food will make you fuller. Try a scoop of whey with, carrot, celery, broccoli, spinach, 3 strawberries and a spoon or two of yogurt. The entire blender is only about 300 calories and it will keep you full.

[CakeIsYummy]

When cutting, try cutting out more scoops of whey protein and fill the void with real food. If you're anything like me, you like to eat and a watery shake doesn't keep you full, it sounds like a good idea in theory, but the chances that you'll be able to hold only protein shakes for an extended period of time is unrealistic. I'd only do this for a few days to shrink your stomach so that real food will make you fuller. Try a scoop of whey with, carrot, celery, broccoli, spinach, 3 strawberries and a spoon or two of yogurt. The entire blender is only about 300 calories and it will keep you full.

Negged for being an idiot and not even reading the thread.

@OP
Great progress dude. Don't give up, you're almost done.
You gonna make it brah! Measly reps.

[Formerfatso]

When you get off this diet remember your body hasnt had any real solid food for a long time so increase intake over several days or your body will be very unsettled.

Yeah I know, I learned my lesson from the refeed I had, I'll ease into it this time...it's gonna be hard though knowing I can finally eat yet I will have to go slow. Still better than not eating anything lol.

[Formerfatso]

Hey man, awesome blog.

Just came here to say that you're lucky to see such consistent drops in weight.
I weigh myself first thing in the morning, hungry, thirsty, after taking a dump and my last several measurements are literally this:
80.1 kg
79.3
78.5
77.3
77.9
78.4
79
78.5
...

Each day differs for at least a pound, sometimes it's 5 pounds difference or even more. I'm making 7 day averages with Excel formula and still can't get such consistent drops. So chin up and these lack of weight changes should mean much.

Thx man, the drops were consistent from the beginning, although last couple weeks I'm pretty much stuck on the same weight, feels bad but it will come off eventually. Plus it's just a number on a scale, I always get a better picture of how things are really going comparing weekly pictures and measurements...

[Formerfatso]

@OP
Great progress dude. Don't give up, you're almost done.
You gonna make it brah! Measly reps.

Thx brah, we're all gonna make it!

[cyco85]

Avi looking mad good. Dunno if anyone has asked this yet but any sexual downsides? If my fat is too low for even a few days good-bye erections.

[Formerfatso]

Avi looking mad good. Dunno if anyone has asked this yet but any sexual downsides? If my fat is too low for even a few days good-bye erections.

Yes, it's been getting worse progressively in that matter the longer I've been on this, used to get morning wood regularly and be horny all the time, now I have pretty much no desire for sex, no morning woods.But it's just temporary, gonna come back to normal after I'll start eating normally...

[OZchuck]

Hey this is going well, good to see success.

[GarbageJedi]

Keep trucking op! Just think of how you are going to feel when you nail the goal you set for yourself by doing this for 2 months. Its the final stretch and its all down hill. If you don't lose another lb you've still achieved a major victory. Your already a success to most of us!

[bibs32]

Hey OP!

Repped you for being an inspiration. Just finished reading the entire thread. Can't wait for you to finish this.

GL! You can do it man!