Kobe *******s mad as fuaarrkkk

[Aussiebrah66]

you have to be emotionally and intellectually unstable to actual invest yourself in this dumb ass argument lol

just bulk aka the spartan veteran warrior (lol) checking in

[YesWayNoWeigh]

Different in basketball you dumb fukk. Football matches are played in a ONE match series and there are 22 players on the field at the time. Basketball matches are played in a SEVEN game series and there are only 10 players on the field at the time. Huge difference you retard

oh wait youre a lebron fan, <100 IQ brah my bad carry on

im not a "lebron fan" but I've come to terms that's he's the best bball player in the world and could end up as the best ever so why spend my time hating on him. And urine idiot lol there's not a huge difference. Pippen has 6 rings and people say James is already better than him

[broboma2012]

What if I told you that Kobe shoots 39% in game 7's???

What if I told you that Kobe is 7-9 in elimination games, 3-5 without Shaq, and 0-2 without Shaq or Pau in those games?

What if I told you that, since 2000-2001 Kobe shoots 39% in the final 3 minutes of the 4th quarter or overtime, in both the regular season and playoffs? This is on almost 2,000 shot attempts, large sample size.

What if I told you that Kobe has 2 NBA FINALS SERIES where he shot worse in the 4th quarter than LeBron did against Dallas?

What if I told you that Kobe shoots 31% in crunch time in his career??? (Crunch time = final 24 seconds of 4th quarter or OT, down by 1-2 points or tied). This includes playoffs.




This "Kobe is a killer," "Kobe is super clutch," "Kobe refuses to lose" bullshiit needs to stop. Sooner or later enough people are going to be awared that it's just sports media propaganda. BRB Kobe makes 1 game winner, they replay it for 72 hours straight and talk about it on every show, Around the Horn, PTI, First Take, etc. etc. Kobe misses his next 10 game winners... and not a single highlight was shown that day.



Yeah the Cavs had quality players, they were quality ROLE PLAYERS. There was never a legit #2 or #3 option on those teams. Mo Williams would have been a good #4 option on a title team, but he was not good enough to be a 2nd fiddle. Look at what he's doing right now... 12ppg for Utah, only playing 30 minutes. He just BARELY turned 30 years old and he's already assuming the Andre Miller "old savvy PG who doesn't play a ton of minutes" role.

The EC being "dogshiit" is such a lie. It's top heavy, been that way for a while. The West has always been the super deep conference full of offensive finesse teams, where the East is the top-heavy conference of 3-4 really good teams who traditionally have been really strong DEFENSIVE teams. I think going up against a really physical, great defensive team in a 7 game series is a lot more grueling than playing "first one to 120 points wins" against the Phoenix Suns in the mid 2000's.


And Kobe "paved the way" for LeBron to come out of high school? Do you even KG? Do you even Moses Malone?

It's not LeBron's fault that Kobe wasn't good enough to start as a rookie. LeBron would have started on any team in the NBA as a rookie in 2003. They would have made room for him in the starting lineup. Played him at PG if that's where they were weak, played him at the 2, the 3, and even a little 4. He was that good.




Yeah if you play 24 minutes a night...

It's not LeBron's fault that Kobe was injured so much in his early career. Missed 11 games as a rookie, 16 games in year 4, 14 games in year 5, 17 games in year 8, 16 games in year 9, etc.







Oscar played in a different era, but his accomplishments are still amazing.

A better comparison for LeBron would be Magic's 138 triple doubles, which he will probably never come close to.

LeBron is still 7th all-time in triple doubles already despite still having lots of years left.

I don't think triple doubles is really something you use to "stack up" against other players though. It's an arbitrary cutoff point.




Exactly.

kobe's clutchness and will to win may be one of the biggest myths in sports. if he had such a 'will to win' wouldn't he have found a way to work it out with shaq ? he only has a will to win in a very narrow spectrum.

[Mitch1313]

This picture again....
Never ending debate of people going full retard.

Why cant people just be a fan of someone and who cares if someone else likes another player...

I cant even imagine the chit storm someone would get on sports misc if they said they liked Russel Westbrook.

[dtbrehm]

Played his first 8 seasons with Shaquille O'Neal and Phil Jackson


LeBron played his first 7 seasons on a poverty Cavs team with Big Z and Mike Brown.


It's certainly not an apples to apples comparison.

Too much logic for sports misc. Pls go.

[FlabbyAndSick]

......did you miss all of last year's playoffs?

LeBron has transformed. He has nearly reached his final form (it's scary that he's still going to get better). Once it's crunch time, LeBron is on the MJ time right now. What you're saying was true a few years ago. Can't tell if you're trolling so I'm responding seriously.

One other thing is that MJ's, and to a lesser extent Kobe's tendency is to alienate teammates and not know how to handle people. LeBron's teammates love him.

Kobe is a good comparison to MJ because Kobe literally copied his entire game and they play the same position.

LeBron is a Magic/ MJ hybrid who plays a different position.

To the original point I bolded- watch this year's playoffs. LeBron is going to be even scarier now that everyone doesn't hate him and the pressure's off.

I said it before. Everyone hated Magic and the Lakers back in the day......until they started winning. Now the Heat are winning rings and are just getting comfortable dominating the league.

Sit back and enjoy one of the GOATs crafting his legacy before your eyes.

Magic won his first ring as a rookie. Pretty short period of hate.

[BullStampede]

I would love to see how many games both of these guys came close to triple doubles. LeBron this season alone has had like 25 games where he was one rebound or one assist away from a triple double. That number could honestly be 100 for him. Kobe probably not as many but def more than 50. so close so many times.

[Crip55muscleMax]

op forgot one little thing titles: 3 to 1

How many FMVP bitch??
Haha Shaqs back was weak after carrying Kobe to his first 3 titles

[Nocks]

This thread is retarded. As a LeBron fan, the fact that the photo leaves out Kobe's 3 titles to LeBron's 1 is ridiculous (even though IMO Shaq carried them to those titles). LeBron did have an FMVP though. Biased stats of peace.

Every sensible person knows that LeBron is by far and away a better player than Kobe in every facet in the game (besides scoring creativity), but the fact that Kobe has a better legacy than LeBron can't be ignored. LeBron needs two more titles to surpass Kobe's legacy.

[LorTy]

How many FMVP bitch??
Haha Shaqs back was weak after carrying Kobe to his first 3 titles

You were 6 years old when Kobe and Shaq got their first rings

[solidus2k3]

lol