What women find sexy in men...

[BlackSwan88]

Below is an article that I saw in Psychology Today, I'm posting it but will provide the summary here. The thing women find sexy in men is....wait for it ...wait for it...

Good Health

But...while they like muscle men in the short time, they think they cat around too much and aren't long term keepers.

Here's the article in full.


Sexual attraction is a mystery. Scientists and artists alike have long tried to crack the magic formula, and are steadily piecing together a picture of how it works. Now, a study has revealed a not so obvious factor that explains why some women find themselves irresistibly drawn to masculine men. Quite simply, it's because they're healthier. And from an evolutionary perspective, good health has great value in the mating market because it increases the probability of reproductive success.

Previous research shows that masculine features are associated with markers of healthfulness, including upper body strength, less oxidative stress, and fewer bouts of illness. In addition, elevated testosterone levels are linked to a powerful immune system response. In keeping with these positive associations between men's masculinity and health, several studies have found that macho facial features make these men appear healthier and brawnier.and more!

But such good looks come at a price. Although healthy and strong, these men lack the qualities that women desire in a long-term romantic partnership. Research shows that by comparison to their less masculine peers, macho men have a penchant for short-term, uncommited liaisons, are more prone to cheating, and are less likely to share resources equitably. Men who possess higher levels of testosterone also invest less time and resources in their partners and children. What's more, masculine men are seen as bad fathers, untrustworthy, and emotionally cold.

These findings reveal that women face a trade-off when it comes to masculine men. On the one hand, such a man can offer his future children a hardy constitution that will confer good health. On the other hand, he tends to be less willing to invest resources in his family. As part of our evolutionary make up, then, women have to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of mating with macho guys. But given their uncharitable qualities, why do they continue to be so spellbinding?

One clue can be found in pathogen disgust, which refers to sensitivities about health and disease. Previous research has found that in disease ridden regions, women prefer men with masculine faces over men with relatively more feminine ones. Along similar lines, women who perceive their own health to be poor also demonstrate stronger preferences for masculine, deep voices.

Now, a series of three studies led by Benedict Jones of the University of Glasgow has lent further insight into the matter. He and his team wanted to explore the ways pathogen disgust might influence women's preferences for more masculine voices, faces, and bodies. Women completed a questionnaire that assessed their sensitivities to three types of disgust: moral disgust (e.g., deceiving a friend), sexual disgust (e.g., hearing two strangers having sex), and pathogen disgust (e.g., stepping on dog poop). It is comprised of 21 items along a seven-point scale (0 = not at all disgusting, 6 = extremely disgusting).

In the first study, the researchers tested whether disgust was linked to women's preferences for men with deep, manly voices. Participants listened to 6 pairs of male voices that were manipulated to be masculine (lower-pitched) or relatively feminine (higher-pitched) versions of the same recording. The women were then asked to identify which voice they found more attractive.

In the second study, the investigators tested if disgust was associated with women's preferences for men with macho facial features and muscular bodies. Participants were presented pairs of images of men that were rated as “high masculinity” and “low masculinity.” Participants expresed their preferences by selecting one of four options: “much more attractive,” “more attractive,” “somewhat more attractive,” and “slightly more attractive.”

In the third study, the team explored the relationships between disgust and the masculinity of the women's actual and ideal romantic partners. Unattached women were asked to rate the masculinity of their ideal partner, and attached women were asked to rate the masculinity of both their actual and ideal partner on a scale of one (much less masculine than average) to seven (much more masculine than average).

What did the researchers find? Women with concerns about health and disease – that is, those who were more sensitive to pathogen disgust – preferred men with macho facial features, deeper voices, and muscular bodies. Pathogen disgust also correlated with women's increased preferences for masculine men, whether they be ideal or actual partners. Moral and sexual disgust were not found to be significant predictors of women's preferences for macho features or their choices in a romantic partner.

Science still has a ways to go in determining the alchemy of physical attraction, but this research establishes some fascinating clues as to what underlies the phenomenon.

[mal1ce]

I got this....

[djflex]

Tldr


But hoping beer belly and skinny calves were considered sexy

[IronCharles]

Strong stereotyping. Every "plus" one woman considers may be a big turn off to another. If you want to go for a scattershot approach to dating, then play the percentages. Otherwise, your best bet is to find out what the woman you're currently interested in finds attractive.

[-=FLEX=-]

I got this....

Yep. Nailed it.

[Corbi]

Strong stereotyping. Every "plus" one woman considers may be a big turn off to another. If you want to go for a scattershot approach to dating, then play the percentages. Otherwise, your best bet is to find out what the woman you're currently interested in finds attractive.

My wife always claim she isn't into the ripped 6 pack abs type of crap, but both she and her sister certainly got all worked up over that Magic Mike movie.

[cowboybiker]

[djflex]

My wife always claim she isn't into the ripped 6 pack abs type of crap, but both she and her sister certainly got all worked up over that Magic Mike movie.

Once when i was single and more jacked i met a girl at a party. She told me i was too big and muscles were kinda gross.

She made me a nice omlette in the morning....

[Simpy]

Strong stereotyping. Every "plus" one woman considers may be a big turn off to another. If you want to go for a scattershot approach to dating, then play the percentages. Otherwise, your best bet is to find out what the woman you're currently interested in finds attractive.

Each woman individually has different preferences. But this isn't talking about the individual woman, this is talking about the collective woman.


I love reading stuff about attraction or watching some of the cool videos of studies that have been done about how people pair up. I watched this one video once of a study where they ranked a group of 15 or so women and then 15 or so men by attractiveness. Higher numbers, if I remember correctly, were more attractive, lower numbers, less attractive. No one knew what their numbers were. Then they set the men and women out to pair up. They told them that their goal was to match with the most attractive person, made it a game. The attractive people ended up matching with the attractive people - because they could. It ended up almost perfectly matching. Ones with ones. Threes with threes. Fifteens with fifteens. I was mesmerized.

Then they applied it to hookups at the bar. Similar results.



Then they applied this to real life couples.



DIDN'T WORK AT ALL!


Now that I think about it, I would love to watch that video again.

[kimm4]

You have a pulse.
You don't live with your parents.
You have a full set of teeth.

We're off to good start...

[-=FLEX=-]

Then they applied this to real life couples.



DIDN'T WORK AT ALL!

I guess that explains how a doofus like me ended up with the beautiful Lisa.

[djflex]

I guess that explains how a doofus like me ended up with the beautiful Lisa.

Ha ha! I always wonder the same about myself....

Short, chunky and bald and no rich guy. I figured it was gonna be a long life

[m314]

Strong stereotyping. Every "plus" one woman considers may be a big turn off to another. If you want to go for a scattershot approach to dating, then play the percentages. Otherwise, your best bet is to find out what the woman you're currently interested in finds attractive.

I have a different strategy with dating, or at least I did last year when I was single. I wanted to meet lots of women who were interested in me and then decide who I wanted to stay with. If a woman isn't attracted to something about me, that just narrows down the field of potential girlfriends. To be with me, she has to be attracted to me, attractive to me, and compatible with me over the long run.

That was so much easier than the way I approached things in my 20s. Becoming "interested" in a girl I'm not with yet and changing something to be more attractive to her was one of the worst mistakes I ever made. A mistake I made more than once. I'd rather live my life the way I decide and not worry about the girls who are turned off by that.

[Wyomann]

You have a pulse.
You don't live with your parents.
You have a full set of teeth.

We're off to good start...

That's what I'm talking about. I'm in like Flynn.

[Wyomann]

I guess that explains how a doofus like me ended up with the beautiful Lisa.

I hear that. I'm not sure how I've ever had GFs and such. I'm pretty retarded.

[djflex]

Once when i was single and more jacked i met a girl at a party. She told me i was too big and muscles were kinda gross.

She made me a nice omlette in the morning....

Ok, ok none of this is true. Except the omlette

But i made it myself.

Alone

After fappin



Sigh

[-=FLEX=-]

I'm pretty retarded.

Aware.

[crupiea]

Each woman individually has different preferences. But this isn't talking about the individual woman, this is talking about the collective woman.


I love reading stuff about attraction or watching some of the cool videos of studies that have been done about how people pair up. I watched this one video once of a study where they ranked a group of 15 or so women and then 15 or so men by attractiveness. Higher numbers, if I remember correctly, were more attractive, lower numbers, less attractive. No one knew what their numbers were. Then they set the men and women out to pair up. They told them that their goal was to match with the most attractive person, made it a game. The attractive people ended up matching with the attractive people - because they could. It ended up almost perfectly matching. Ones with ones. Threes with threes. Fifteens with fifteens. I was mesmerized.

Then they applied it to hookups at the bar. Similar results.



Then they applied this to real life couples.



DIDN'T WORK AT ALL!


Now that I think about it, I would love to watch that video again.

I saw a show very similar to this except instead of rating them they took chemical tests of the subjects like saliva, body oror, that sort of stuff and then analyzed it.

Then they matched up who they thought would connect with who simply by using these chemical markers.

They put them in a party setting without knowing what they were there for. There were loads of other people there as well who were not part of the test.

The all matched up 10 for 10 with who they scientists said they would.

[SP1966]

I have to say I prefer women who do not prefer things in me! I'm just uptight like that.

[LisaSkinnoble]

[frozensparky]

You have a pulse.
You don't live with your parents.
You have a full set of teeth.

We're off to good start...

So your saying there's a chance! Oh wait do they have to be all my teeth. The loss was due to fighting not a lack of dental hygiene. And only when I want to act like a drunken hillbilly do I ever take it out.

[weiss1967]

one of my ex GF's said once, she is looking for is a guy who has a car and a job. I tried her for more details, but no: any car and any job, this simple.

[TheIronAsylum]

Once when i was single and more jacked i met a girl at a party. She told me i was too big and muscles were kinda gross.

She made me a nice omlette in the morning....

curious for the story of how that happend


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[iiradman]

You have a pulse.
You don't live with your parents.
You have a full set of teeth.

We're off to good start...

Dat feel when no full set of teeth..

Oh well, genetics didn't screw me over. My dentist did.

[GuyJin]

Let's see.

Got most of my teeth--check.
Have a pulse, or did five minutes ago--check.
Have all my hair--check. Who gives a hoot if it's mostly gray?

How I wound up with my wife is a mystery even to me. I've always been overweight (went from extremely fat to just overweight), I have some muscles (not a whole lot--do pointy elbows count?), I'm not rich and never have been, so there goes the money angle, I've never been accused of being good-looking (or having rugged good looks) and I guess the only thing I have going for me is an immense amount of charm. (Ya, rlly!).

Or maybe it's just luck.

[lunchbreak]

...<snip>... The women were then asked ...<snip>...

Spotted the flaw in these studies.

[RetBodyBuilder]

You have a pulse.
You don't live with your parents.
You have a full set of teeth.

We're off to good start...

You have a pulse - YES
You don't live with your parents - YES
You have a full set of teeth - YES

[theKurp]

The full study can be found here: http://beheco.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/2/373.full

The article that appeared in Psychology Today was a summary of three studies that were collectively titled, "Pathogen disgust predicts women’s preferences for masculinity in men’s voices, faces, and bodies."

Note that in all three studies the women's median ages were in the early to mid-20's. I don't think I'd be going out of a limb to suggest that as women age, what they find attractive changes.

[Dr.Griefo]

If there was a study done on the study it would read like this: "Research found that researchers seeking women's preferences are skinny, pencil neck geeks who enjoy gaming and still live in their mom's basement."

[Flounderbout]

I don't think I'd be going out of a limb to suggest that as women age, what they find attractive changes.

What they consider to be rich certainly changes...