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    Don't you think it is strange

    How everyone here talks about hard work & dedication & working out every single day & not missing a single workout & dicipline & all that crap.

    Yet this website is busy selling suppliments (which may be harmful in the long run) & work out programs claiming '12 week shortcuts/8 week shortcuts' (which will never work) to a muscular, God like physique.

    Load of bull****.
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    The forum members discuss such things.

    bb.com is a supp store and I don't blame them as it increases their profit margin preying on newbs.

    Many forum members know better though.
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    Originally Posted by gcvbcat View Post

    Don't you think it is strange
    No.

    It's called "Free Enterprise." Nobody is forcing you to buy anything here, and you're not required to use any training program posted anywhere on this site.


    So you can either ignore whatever it is you consider to be "bull****," or you can post elsewhere. Maybe even start your own bodybuilding website.


    But good luck keeping it afloat without some form of cash income.



    Like from selling supplements.
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    Originally Posted by gcvbcat View Post
    How everyone here talks about hard work & dedication & working out every single day & not missing a single workout & dicipline & all that crap.

    Yet this website is busy selling suppliments (which may be harmful in the long run) & work out programs claiming '12 week shortcuts/8 week shortcuts' (which will never work) to a muscular, God like physique.

    Load of bull****.
    Not sure your being honest about the 12 week shortcuts - they certainly have plans, but when you watch them / read them they tell you who they are for, and tell you to do the best / most you can - none of them claim you can look like the instructor in 12 weeks, it's a easy off the shelve workout/diet plan off the shelf for those that are unsure where to start or what to do - I imagine once immersed they visit the forums, looking for tips and get more involved and tailor make workouts to suit them.
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    I found the 12 week, 6 week routines helped me a lot when i was first getting started. I had no idea what to do and they helped me expand my knowledge.


    Supps.. So what? Take whatcha like.. Ignore the rest
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    p.s. Not all supps are bad. Aaaaannnd, this site is pretty much the cheapest on the web. I find this site to be in the "win" column.
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    How else do you expect them to keep this place running?

    Mods gotta eat
    With the money they make they're probably having steak and lobster every night.
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    Originally Posted by gcvbcat View Post
    How everyone here talks about hard work & dedication & working out every single day & not missing a single workout & dicipline & all that crap.
    Actually, no, everybody here doesn't say work out every single day.


    Originally Posted by gcvbcat View Post
    Yet this website is busy selling suppliments (which may be harmful in the long run) & work out programs claiming '12 week shortcuts/8 week shortcuts' (which will never work) to a muscular, God like physique.

    Load of bull****.
    I think bodybuilding.com does a good job of selling supplements. I've ordered some things from them and the products are competitively priced, they ship VERY quickly. Yes, some supplements are bull**** as you say, but that's life. Prescription drugs are harmful/kill people too, there are no guarantees in life, buyer beware.
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    I take supps and workout at least 12 weeks every year. It's working for me. What's the problem?
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    Originally Posted by gcvbcat View Post
    How everyone here talks about hard work & dedication & working out every single day & not missing a single workout & dicipline & all that crap.

    Yet this website is busy selling suppliments (which may be harmful in the long run) & work out programs claiming '12 week shortcuts/8 week shortcuts' (which will never work) to a muscular, God like physique.

    Load of bull****.
    @ 5'10" and 140lbs I think you should focus your attention on more important things
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    For complete noobs, which a lot of us were starting here, those programs, though flawed, at least give you an outline of what to do and how to approach your time working out. Its up to you to figure out whats best and whats not for you on your own after that.

    So while I "wasted" some time, the question is would I be here today had I not taken that time or would I be doing some crap like p90x still?
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    Originally Posted by cowboybiker View Post
    @ 5'10" and 140lbs I think you should focus your attention on more important things
    yeah, like poop glitter.
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    Originally Posted by ChazWood View Post
    yeah, like poop glitter.
    You never know when that might come in handy
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    Originally Posted by bigtallox View Post
    I think bodybuilding.com does a good job of selling supplements. I've ordered some things from them and the products are competitively priced, they ship VERY quickly. Yes, some supplements are bull**** as you say, but that's life. Prescription drugs are harmful/kill people too, there are no guarantees in life, buyer beware.
    I just recently placed my first order with bb.com. Their prices were priced well and they shipped quickly.
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    Originally Posted by gcvbcat View Post
    How everyone here talks about hard work & dedication & working out every single day & not missing a single workout & dicipline & all that crap.

    Yet this website is busy selling suppliments (which may be harmful in the long run) & work out programs claiming '12 week shortcuts/8 week shortcuts' (which will never work) to a muscular, God like physique.

    Load of bull****.

    Please feel free to share your wealth of knowledge and success standing at 5'10 and a whopping 140lbs.
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    Originally Posted by Get-n-fit View Post
    Please feel free to share your wealth of knowledge and success standing at 5'10 and a whopping 140lbs.
    do u feel better now?

    I'm just trying to understand the point of your comment.
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    yeah, like poop glitter.
    Best cross-thread post evar. Literally LOL'd.
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    Originally Posted by ChazWood View Post
    do u feel better now?

    I'm just trying to understand the point of your comment.
    lol..yeah

    My point is the guy comes on here bashing bb.com for selling supps and then bashes everyone in the forums. However, offers nothing useful, at that height and weight, I'd say it's safe to say he looks like a twig, so whatever "program" he's doing isn't working.

    All in all, just disappointed with the trolls these days, the lack of creativity is appalling.
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    Best cross-thread post evar. Literally LOL'd.
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    I actually enjoy reading all the articles on BB.com. I also like all the different workout plans like Dorian Yates and Y2T. I havent bought any supps from here but I do read the reviews and then go buy them at my local nutrition store cause it is slightly cheaper.
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    Originally Posted by Get-n-fit View Post
    lol..yeah

    My point is the guy comes on here bashing bb.com for selling supps and then bashes everyone in the forums. However, offers nothing useful, at that height and weight, I'd say it's safe to say he looks like a twig, so whatever "program" he's doing isn't working.

    All in all, just disappointed with the trolls these days, the lack of creativity is appalling.
    Fair enuf.

    I may be naive but I interpreted his comments differently - to me the guy was just voicing his opinion.

    It's hard to always understand peoples intent through the internet toobs - Why always assume the worst? Can't we just all get along...
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    and once again, the circle of life in the OV35 is complete...

    laughs were had,

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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    No.

    It's called "Free Enterprise." Nobody is forcing you to buy anything here, and you're not required to use any training program posted anywhere on this site.


    So you can either ignore whatever it is you consider to be "bull****," or you can post elsewhere. Maybe even start your own bodybuilding website.


    But good luck keeping it afloat without some form of cash income.



    Like from selling supplements.
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