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    Do any pre-wos still have 1,3 dimeth?

    I loved the old jack3d! Most effective and highest energy pre wo I had ever had and I got to my bench pr with it. Do any pre-wos still have it or has it been totally banned?
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    It's not banned in the US. There are many still out there like Core ZAP, ProSupps Hyde, IForce Maximize Intense V1, Muscle Marinade, the original Jack3d is still available, etc...
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    well, some places still have old stock of those pre-workouts

    but most companies have reformulated their pre workouts since the ban
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    Jack3d is still readily available from GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. Also give VPX Friction a try to give yourself a break from 1-3-dimethyl.
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    Originally Posted by mordag View Post
    well, some places still have old stock of those pre-workouts

    but most companies have reformulated their pre workouts since the ban
    Making them less effective right? Craze can still bring it for me.
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    Originally Posted by Terrimonas View Post
    It's not banned in the US. There are many still out there like Core ZAP, ProSupps Hyde, etc...
    Originally Posted by mordag View Post
    well, some places still have old stock of those pre-workouts

    but most companies have reformulated their pre workouts since the ban
    So, is it banned or isn't it?

    No, it's not. You can buy bulk 1,3 online.
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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Jack3d is still readily available from GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. Also give VPX Friction a try to give yourself a break from 1-3-dimethyl.
    Jack3d no longer has the secret ingredient.
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    Originally Posted by TheCore84 View Post
    Jack3d no longer has the secret ingredient.
    I can still get it with these ingredients: Proprietary Blend: (arginine alpha-ketoglutarate, creatine monohydrate, beta alanine (Carnosyn®), caffeine, 1,3-dimethylamylamine HCL, shisandra chinensis (berry) extract (standardized for schizandrol A))
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    Originally Posted by TheCore84 View Post
    Jack3d no longer has the secret ingredient.
    You haven't been checking the label recently have you? Jack3d micro is the non-1-3 version. They still sell the original Jack3d at GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. Bb.com took it off though because they have a policy I believe of not carrying items which are banned from any organization.
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    Originally Posted by UWBodybuilding View Post
    So, is it banned or isn't it?

    No, it's not. You can buy bulk 1,3 online.
    from this link http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm302133.htm it seems several companies received letters and then proceeded to change their formulas
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    Originally Posted by mordag View Post
    from this link it seems several companies received letters and then proceeded to change their formulas
    USP is fighting it. It's also just being pulled from sale to the military but not from the general consumer market. It is however banned from some sports organizations.
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    Originally Posted by mordag View Post
    from this link http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm302133.htm it seems several companies received letters and then proceeded to change their formulas
    If it was banned, every company would remove it immediately or receive hefty fines (possibly worse). But, the FDA didn't say it was dangerous. They just said that the companies haven't proven DMAA's safety.
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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    USP is fighting it. It's also just being pulled from sale to the military but not from the general consumer market. It is however banned from some sports organizations.
    Yeah we can't have it or original 1mr anymore. Had no idea it was still for sale. Kinda excites me but I can't have it
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    Originally Posted by TheCore84 View Post
    Yeah we can't have it or original 1mr anymore. Had no idea it was still for sale. Kinda excites me but I can't have it
    You can have it. As far as I know the military hasn't banned its use. It just isn't sold on bases to make more difficult to obtain. I was taking 1,3 in high doses after the military pulled it from shelves and never failed a urinalysis.
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    Originally Posted by TheCore84 View Post
    I loved the old jack3d! Most effective and highest energy pre wo I had ever had and I got to my bench pr with it. Do any pre-wos still have it or has it been totally banned?
    You can still find 1,3 available in many places. I often see the old tubs of jack3d as well as pres with 1,3 in them. Recently, on another planet I saw a tub of 1,3 caps dirt cheap.

    I agree, it give you a ton of energy, but I hate that shiz. Stim dick city, crashes, etc.
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    Originally Posted by TeamMetal View Post
    You can have it. As far as I know the military hasn't banned its use. It just isn't sold on bases to make more difficult to obtain. I was taking 1,3 in high doses after the military pulled it from shelves and never failed a urinalysis.
    Hmm, well this is interesting.
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