***NO FAP thread to end ALL No Fap threads V5 (Now with FAQ�s and more!!)***

[Pbateman0]

Day 8. I have failed many times before, and said that it was the last time.

This time I am truly determined to at least get over 100 days.

I always think about that episode of South Park, when Stan's dad thinks he has a drinking problem because he thinks he can't stop drinking. It's all about discipline, discipline come within.

[BoredBrah]

I really want more guys to start taking cdp choline / citicoline and reporting in this thread how it benefited them


choline is found in foods like eggs, beef and fish. It is supplemented to restore your dopamine receptors, it increases the speed at which they heal, so assuming you've had a porn addiction, supplementing citicoline will (supposedly) speed up your recovery

i was taking 250mg per day and was more motivated, happy and it cured my weak erections. started taking it because someone on reddit in the nofap forum said it cured his problem of not being able to cum during intercourse and that it gave him better erections


just recently ran out and put in another order for two more tubs, im going to be taking 750mg per day for 40 days iirc

ordered it from amazon and the delivery takes forever, im using the jarrow brand cdp choline


i feel like this post will be ignored but its a shame because i genuinely believe this supplement could be a powerful tool to used in recovery from porn addiction (or any addiction, its been used on people recovering from ******* addiction although the studies arent really conclusive on if it works or not)


tldr = citicoline might restore your dopamine receptors back to healthy/normal densities fast

Since we are in a bodybuilding forum I think that most people here eat a lot of eggs.

Whole large egg - 112 mg choline

I eat 3 eggs daily which means I take about 300mg of choline daily.

I love eggs, I can report that since I've started eating eggs daily I feel a little happier and my brain is more lucid.

Frank Yang said that after eating 12 eggs he felt high, I don't know if he was trolling though.

If you want other ideas for no fap supplementations read this: http://yourbrainonporn.com/libido-balancing-supplements

Personally I'd take only a multi, fish oil and maybe l-tyrosine. I didn't try many of the others suggestions.

[poland144]

[QUOTE=BoredBrah;1099003283]Since we are in a bodybuilding forum I think that most people here eat a lot of eggs.
[quote]Whole large egg - 112 mg choline

I eat 3 eggs daily which means I take about 300mg of choline daily.

I love eggs, I can report that since I've started eating eggs daily I feel a little happier and my brain is more lucid.

Frank Yang said that after eating 12 eggs he felt high, I don't know if he was trolling though.

If you want other ideas for no fap supplementations read this: http://yourbrainonporn.com/libido-balancing-supplements

Personally I'd take only a multi, fish oil and maybe l-tyrosine. I didn't try many of the others suggestions.

In for more information/research about this. I've been on no fap for a month. I have no problems getting an erection before sex but frequently get soft after around 10 minutes. Would be interested in seeing research about recovery periods for neurotransmitter levels to get back to normal or supplements one can use.

[rspb]

I had the biggest urge to fap last night and this morning, but managed to resist. But I'm not sure I can keep it up (pun intended) for the rest of July.

[saqademus]

so 227 pages in.... does this work?

[Onepoundfish]

Went up to like 5 days, before I fell.
Starting again today aiming for the 2 weeks.

[HunterMC6]

any other delayed ejaculation brahs in this thread?

my story:

in the beginning of 2013, i finally lost my vcard and started dating this chick. i thought it strange that i never came from sex, but i was too proud of the fact that i could last forever to realize that to her it was a serious problem (srs). all my friends complain about only lasting a few minutes during sex and they all seem to feel very emasculated by it, and here i was lasting well over an hour. one day while we were having sex, she straight up asked me why i don't cum and i had no answer for her. i tried explaining it wasn't her. she asked what she could do to make me cum, but the time before that she tried to blow me; the blowjob itself was actually really good, but she had dat deathgrip on the very base of my cock and it actually hurt when she stroked it. instead of instructing her to just not do that, i said "nah it's fine' and that was that.

after that, she basically refused to have sex with me again. one time she even said "what's the point you're not gonna cum anyway", always made comments thinking she was really fat (even though she wasn't at all), started acting like a bitch to me.

i even went on no fap for 18 days at this time because i really wanted to cum from sex, but it was too late. i found out she cheated on me multiple times, and i broke up with her. she started dating someone immediately (like within 5 days srs) and to my knowledge they're still dating. and yeah, it still stings when i think about it =/

i talked to a close female friend about it, and she told me that delayed ejaculation is like every girl's nightmare. she said she would rather a guy cum in less than a minute than not cum at all because at least then she would feel she is doing something right.

that's why i'm on no fap now. i'm determined to cum from sex next time i have it. i know it won't be for a while, but i'm looking at it like an investment. i'm paying my dues now so i can reap the benefits in the future when i actually have access to females or get a girlfriend.

i'm up to day 15 brahs, let's keep it moving!!!

Not surprised by this at all, how do you think she feels when you don't get off by ****ing her? Well essentially the same way you should feel when she doesn't get off except with men it is just expected to happen every time and most females have a self limiting belief of orgasms when it comes to sex but that is a whole other can of worms. Glad you realized there is a problem and you are taking steps to correct it. Don't let that situation with her drag you down, use it as a catalyst to not make that mistake with the next HBB.

so 227 pages in.... does this work?

Define what no fap is suppose to accomplish and you will have your answer

[CSOleson]

To the user who asks if it works, yes it does.

For those of you who read that I relapsed, it definitely came at a high price. I seriously am in the worst mood in many months of this. I feel like crap, super angry. Yes, there are extenuating circumstances to why I'm irritated, but I believe that my failure has compounded what I normally would feel and how I react. Freaking sucks.

[WhirlwindTobias]

Got these two responses from the same guy on my youtube feed today, many lulz were had. I'll also post my responses.

250 days is manic. why would you wanna go so long without. a week to a month i understand but half a year plus without is excessive.

I'm now just over 2 weeks away from a year.

Who are you to define what is excessive and what is not? The "norm" is purely defined by culture and other environmental circumstances, if we grew up in a civilization where masturbation was abhorrent I'd be "normal".

As for why would I? Read up on asceticism. There's value in giving up simple pleasures, it's unfortunate you clearly can't comprehend such a concept.

i actually think its good to go 2 weeks without and then maybe fap once in between before going without again. that is a natural wanking habit. its healthy to masturbate just not excessively. i fap to porn a lot but i dont see why you have to go hundreds of days without. you should just let ur body reset to a natural point and then if you want to wank do so just dont get addicted which is what a lot of men do.

I'm sorry, but the term "natural wanking habit" made me laugh.

Next you'll talk about a "natural drinking habit", and a "natural drug habit", to advocate drinking and drugs respectively.

And don't say they are different, just as masturbation has benefits so does both alcohol consumption and drugs (medicinal marijuana for example).

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Seriously some people just have no idea. If you want to jerk off be my guest, just don't be so darned ignorant about abstinence in the first place.

[TheStaringFrog]

Seriously some people just have no idea. If you want to jerk off be my guest, just don't be so darned ignorant about abstinence in the first place.

You tell em how it is sista!

Btw, when is this long post you were talking about going to be posted?

[WhirlwindTobias]

Btw, when is this long post you were talking about going to be posted?

My apologies, I got sidetracked again.

I am in a serious lull at the moment in regards to productivity. Today I got pissed off while I was at work because it's the same old **** again, saying as soon as i got home that was it; I was going to get my head down and get my life in order. But by the time I get back, I just wanted to relax again. Now I have some cooking on the go, and I was trying to find something to watch while I do so but I can't help but think watching something will make me want to spend the rest of the night watching stuff.

So I am just going to eat in silence, and return to my room hoping I won't want to zone out more.

[deeezel44]

Alright I'm new to this no fap thing but after reading the intro, I need to try it out.

Couldn't get it up with the last few girls I've been with. Might have been the booze, may have been nerves thinking about not being able to get it up or may have been from fapping or a combination of the three...

Regardless, can anyone give me some feedback on how no fapped helped them. My libido feels awful right now, I even had to prove I wasn't gay to myself by fapping to straight up girls.

[hbhorat]

Alright I'm new to this no fap thing but after reading the intro, I need to try it out.

Couldn't get it up with the last few girls I've been with. Might have been the booze, may have been nerves thinking about not being able to get it up or may have been from fapping or a combination of the three...

Regardless, can anyone give me some feedback on how no fapped helped them. My libido feels awful right now, I even had to prove I wasn't gay to myself by fapping to straight up girls.

Page 1, has numerous peoples feedback on how nofap helped them. Just read that and skim through this thread, you'll be getting all kinds of feedback

[nattyuser]

Dropping in with some info some of you have probably already seen, but I think it'll be useful to some of you who are always unclear of what constitutes as porn or failing/reset.

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/what-...-did-i-relapse

That whole article cleared up a lot for me, I've relapsed before when I came across a pic on fb. My mind was telling me "it's not porn, so it's fine". It wasn't fine, it was failure because I was 'mimicking' my porn habits.

The main bulk of the article:

We receive daily questions about what's "approved", or what's a "relapse", or whether X, Y, or Z, will slow someone's reboot. Such questions cannot be answered. A better question is, "What type of brain training leads to addictive changes in my brain, and am I repeating it?"

In this regard, accidental exposure to something arousing is not a relapse. In fact, I seriously doubt any incidental images of anything, including hard core porn, could set one back. Sensitization occurs when an addict purposely pursues his addiction. Animal experiments show that actively choosing to take a drug wires up the brain differently from having it injected with no conditioned stimulus. Pursuing or working for the addictive drug causes sensitization - which is THE core addiction brain change. The animal associates taking the drug with its own deliberate action, and the brain wires accordingly.

Actively searching ******** is activating sensitized addiction pathways and reinforcing your addiction. Bumping into hard-core images, then immediately closing the page is actually strengthening the willpower parts of your brain. If an alcoholic could easily stop after 1/2 glass of wine...he would have no problems...right? (See Exposure Response Prevention Therapy (extinction) for more). Avoid linking deliberate seeking with arousal. An accidental glimpse isn't chosen. However, dwelling on the image you glimpse, fantasizing about it later, or seeking other images because of it can be counterproductive.

Recovering from porn addiction is not the same as recovering from addictions to alcohol or drugs. Chemical addictions are black and white. An alcoholic swears off drinking for life. Orgasm, sex, masturbation, sex scenes in movies, pictures of sexy women, will all continue to be a part of your life. If you believe you have relapsed - get over it - and get back on the no-porn horse.

A way to look at relapsing:

The question you need to ask yourself is: "Do my behaviors or actions mimic how I used porn?" If so, then you may be reactivating sensitized addiction pathways. Only you can answer this question. ******** is a common example I hear about, where guys mimic the exact same MO (method of operation) as they did with porn use: searching, clicking, surfing in the quest for synthetic sexual novelty (not involving real people) in order to stimulate their desensitized brains. Or very simply - am I substituting artificial stimuli for the real deal?

Which scenario is more like porn addiction?
- Surfing dating site, while imagining sex with completely clothed females, as you click from picture to picture.
- An afternoon in a nudist colony?

Number one, of course. Internet porn addiction is NOT about nakedness - its an addiction to novelty. Artificial novelty.

I strongly suggest you give this a read if you haven't already.



One more thing

Frank Yang has done an actually helpful video regarding no fap/no porn, or any other addiction. Skip to 0:15 to avoid trippy intro.

He talks about accepting the urge instead of trying to suppress it...



EDIT: After watching that video in it's entirety, I'm back in on No Fap. I'm using wet dreams as a justification to fap every now and then, which is ludicrous.

He makes a good point towards the end about getting to a certain point on no fap or no porn, that your brain actually completely turns around and views fapping as bad for you. You'll relapse and feel disgusting and guilty afterwards, that's just a sign of progress and an indication that you should get back on the horse. I was definitely at this point with no porn, I was on a ~2 month and relapsed, afterwards I felt physically sick with guilt and disappointment.

I may have failed numerous times this year, but I'm making progress and that's what matters.

[Arathor]

Day 1 - Great success. Haven't even thought about fapping at all. I think I'm flatlining.

[BoredBrah]

Dropping in with some info some of you have probably already seen, but I think it'll be useful to some of you who are always unclear of what constitutes as porn or failing/reset.

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/what-...-did-i-relapse

That whole article cleared up a lot for me, I've relapsed before when I came across a pic on fb. My mind was telling me "it's not porn, so it's fine". It wasn't fine, it was failure because I was 'mimicking' my porn habits.

The main bulk of the article:



A way to look at relapsing:



I strongly suggest you give this a read if you haven't already.



One more thing

Frank Yang has done an actually helpful video regarding no fap/no porn, or any other addiction. Skip to 0:15 to avoid trippy intro.

He talks about accepting the urge instead of trying to suppress it...



EDIT: After watching that video in it's entirety, I'm back in on No Fap. I'm using wet dreams as a justification to fap every now and then, which is ludicrous.

He makes a good point towards the end about getting to a certain point on no fap or no porn, that your brain actually completely turns around and views fapping as bad for you. You'll relapse and feel disgusting and guilty afterwards, that's just a sign of progress and an indication that you should get back on the horse. I was definitely at this point with no porn, I was on a ~2 month and relapsed, afterwards I felt physically sick with guilt and disappointment.

I may have failed numerous times this year, but I'm making progress and that's what matters.

If I failed and I fap but I don't watch porns I don't feel guilt and disappointed. Instead it happens if I watch porns, it actually have always happened to me, also on fap fap times. Without porns I need to fap a lot to feel guilty about it.

Anyway it was easier to stop using ********, I simply deleted my account .

[JtotheIzzo]

Day 10 Today

[nicolais]

Day 8 checking in guys.

Started to date a girl I met a couple of weeks ago.

Time flies and I have close to zero urges.

Stay strong brahs!

[nattyuser]

If I failed and I fap but I don't watch porns I don't feel guilt and disappointed. Instead it happens if I watch porns, it actually have always happened to me, also on fap fap times. Without porns I need to fap a lot to feel guilty about it.

Anyway it was easier to stop using ********, I simply deleted my account .

Perhaps that's an indication that you haven't got far with re-associating fapping as a bad thing to do, that is of course if you're trying no fap. I feel a lot less guilt if I fap without watching porn, but that only means I've still got a ways to go.

Imagine if Tobias fapped to his imagination right now, he'd feel disgusted with himself, even more so than we do when we relapse to porn. It's all about the time you put in and the level you're at.

Day 10 Today

Keep it up Izzo brah

[Tulorrific]

So doing this for a prolong period of time, and then having sex, would cause you to bust in like under a minute? Right?

[WhirlwindTobias]

Imagine if Tobias fapped to his imagination right now, he'd feel disgusted with himself, even more so than we do when we relapse to porn. It's all about the time you put in and the level you're at.

So much this.

Edit: Phuark where'd I get 18k reps from?? LOL

[GaryOatz]

1 month over

need to get laid soon, but i have to study.. feelsbadman

[Noxcho]

Tobias did u get laid tho in the 50 weeks of no fap? XD

[stezus]

Need feedback

I've been struggling with ending my porn addiction since May 2nd. Have made several small streaks (longest was 8, and just failed on a 6 day one). My strategy for my last streak is very good and prevents me from being vulnerable to fapping (i limit computer browsing time to 2 hours in evenings). I get very noticeable withdrawal symptoms. Particularly diarrhea and gas usually around day 3 or 4 and my last streak it came back on day 6. Also chemo like fatigue for a few days around day 3, and some other stuff.

The reason I failed this last time was that I accidentally signed into my erotic twitter account (i have 2) and literally couldnt help myself. I think i was most vulnerable because i came back from a really stressful family event (got into a big argument, probably from the tension of no fap lol) and i needed something to feel good to again. Before that moment i was doing well at resisting it.

It's important for me to end this addiction because i think it's tied to several health problems that escalated at the same time as my addiction, and ive found significant correlations with my efforts to stop. But its like crack to me. REALLY f*cking hard to stop once even a thought enters my head of a fetish. Whats worse is i have nothing to do this summer so aside from personal research, reading, lifting, etc. i am stuck to these thoughts. I'm thinking of taking NAC to reduce withdrawal symptoms, but other than that does anyone have any advice on how to end this? Should i just wait until school starts again to even try?

[WhirlwindTobias]

Tobias did u get laid tho in the 50 weeks of no fap? XD

I've had no action, bar several handjobs in the course of a couple of days last week.

[juniorsworld]

So like I said before, I'm doing this thing by weeks, not days, since some more experienced no-fappers have said focusing on days isn't really effective. But I'll be coming in here to read on you guys and reply to posts if there's a need.

So this is the first full week.

[douglasmich]

Day 8. Day 7 I had 0 libido

[Torien89]

couple of hours into Day 11

I think its getting easier to resist now. My brain is still making curiosity-based rationalisations (tempted to check for new videos on my favourite sites) but im coping just fine. Acne is almost gone, my face is clearer than it has been in ages, possibly years. Also got around to watching Tobias' 250 day vlog which was really great, loved the Friday Night Lights quote at the end, especially as i'm currently rewatching the TV series.

[YouMadOrMirin]

Finished a full week of no fap, even deleted the majority of the porn I had on my computer.
We're all gonna make it brahs.

[fezz349]

Testosterone Research vs Testosterone Myths

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/book/export/html/148