I've never took much notice of "yanking" (or "jerking") the weight off the floor but recently been reading up more on form and most say this is a bad idea. I have tried pulling the slack out of the bar and not yanking the weight but when I do that I'm lifting a lot less. It's not a very big yank in my opinion but I just feel like I do need it a little to get the ball rolling (bar moving?).
Most don't seem to do that although I have seen some very good lifters do it albeit rather rarely (Jamie Lewis comes to mind). Thoughts? Is it really as bad as some make it out to be?
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Thread: "Yanking" deadlift
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03-14-2013, 10:11 AM #1
"Yanking" deadlift
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03-14-2013, 10:16 AM #2
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03-14-2013, 10:28 AM #3
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03-14-2013, 11:22 AM #4
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03-14-2013, 11:52 AM #5
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03-14-2013, 11:53 AM #6
I think that is a really bad idea for 99.999999% of the earth. "Well, what about Konstantine Konstantastantsantisosis?" Well, he is too injured to compete anymore it seems like.
OP, you can't lift as much when you get set up in a good, stable, solid position because your hamstrings and lower back are weak. Seriosuly, continue to get your starting technique dialed in and do some direct hamstring and lower back work."Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."
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03-14-2013, 01:51 PM #7
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03-14-2013, 01:53 PM #8
I know what your saying about not feeling as explosive off the ground, but it's worth it in the long run. I don't feel as much pop off the ground (yet), but just taking that extra second to pull the slack outta the bar and get everything as tight as possible puts me in a much smoother and consistent groove. Just stick with it man and I'm sure you'll pass your current max.
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03-14-2013, 03:13 PM #9
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03-14-2013, 03:21 PM #10
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03-14-2013, 03:54 PM #11
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03-14-2013, 05:14 PM #12
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03-14-2013, 05:15 PM #13
Damn, guess I might need to look into actually stopping it. I guess, yes, the biggest issue is really just feeling like I'm going backwards because I can't pull as much with it. I know it only needs to happen once to get a very serious injury but I'm sure we all think "yes but it probably won't happen to me" until it does.
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03-14-2013, 07:40 PM #14
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03-14-2013, 08:46 PM #15
Some guys do pull more with a yank but they are few and far between. The yank usually just puts you in a horrible position from the start and will do nothing but lower you pounages as well as increase your chance of injury.
Sometimes you have to go backwards to get forwards, learning to set up tightly and pull the slack out before exploding the bar back will let you go a lot further than yanking the bar from a questionable position which might land you in hot water.
It's like the super quad dominant squatters. Sure, having super strong quads can get you to a strong(ish) squat. But eventually you'll hit a wall because your quads can only go so far. You'll have to go backwards in weight and learn how to properly use your posterior chain more, and then you'll eventually be breaking PRs again.
Better in the long run to always do things as correctly as possible rather than sacrifice the long term for short term gains.
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03-15-2013, 02:10 AM #16
What about this kind of deadlift? Is he taking the slack out and I can't really tell or is he simply not? I've seen Eric Lilliebridge with a little similar form; elbows bend but they don't yank it, it's just that they then just stand up kinda slowly with it. Can you take the slack out that way even (if elbows are bent) or are they simply not?202.5/135/245. Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=165241801.
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03-15-2013, 05:34 AM #17
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03-16-2013, 04:43 AM #19
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