http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...tes-capitalism
Bravo"Our priorities are tilted by marketplace imperatives," he said. "The malaria vaccine in humanist terms is the biggest need. But it gets virtually no funding. But if you are working on male baldness or other things you get an order of magnitude more research funding because of the voice in the marketplace than something like malaria."
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03-14-2013, 05:45 AM #1
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Bill Gates: capitalism means male baldness research gets more funding than malaria
Because if it were easy, I wouldn't be interested.
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03-14-2013, 05:57 AM #5ignore list: MuscleXtreme
The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that youre a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black.
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Because the advanced, prosperous, capitalist countries are known to exploit the developing countries. It's nothing personal against the US, it's a systematic problem.
The unplanned nature of capitalism inevitably overproduces commodities and overuses resources, which leads the capitalist class to expand its markets into, and drain the resources of, less-developed nations. The wealthy nations, must maintain cheap access to third world natural resources and unfree labor, by force if necessary. They argue that the capitalist countries like England initially were helped by the primitive accumulation of capital through the "theft" of natural resources and exploitation of slave labor from large parts of Asia, Africa and the Americas, which spurred the industrial revolution. They see what they characterize as unjust exploitation, militarily (such as India in 19th century) or economically (e.g., through International Monetary Fund structural adjustment programs during the 1980s), as part of the nature of capitalism. The constant, capitalist drive to expand markets is viewed by many as the primary cause of globalization.
It's ironic, our governments exploit them, and then we the people get mad and bitter at their people, who are at the mercy of their government as much as we are, if not more.
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03-14-2013, 08:20 AM #16
Time to mention Guns, Germs & Steel.
http://www.pbs.org/gunsgermssteel/va...s/malaria.html
It goes without saying that in places where malaria is prevalent people are held back by tyrants that keep money to themselves. Ironically, one might argue that those tyrants are themselves operating under capitalist incentives, but it also goes to show that a capitalist approach to malaria can lead to benefits.ignore list: MuscleXtreme
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Gates is making an argument against pure capitalism, not capitalism, and it's relationship to what Gates believes to be humanist and philanthropic ordeals. Of course, if your views don't align with him in regards to these ordeals, then you're not going to buy into his argument no matter which way it is puts it.
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You mean like the largest private foundation in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%2...tes_Foundation ?
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I'd argue that's what you're doing. Did you read the article? What part of my statement am I fabricating on his behalf, as opposed to your interpretation?
The second and third paragraph from the article:
"Our priorities are tilted by marketplace imperatives," he said. "The malaria vaccine in humanist terms is the biggest need. But it gets virtually no funding. But if you are working on male baldness or other things you get an order of magnitude more research funding because of the voice in the marketplace than something like malaria."
As a result, governments and philanthropic organisations have to step in to offset this "flaw in the pure capitalistic approach". The Gates Foundation focuses on finding under invested areas of basic science and focusing an innovation agenda on the needs of the poor, specifically looking at education and health.Last edited by mehdi84; 03-14-2013 at 09:43 AM.
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Yeah I'm frothing at the mouth enraged because some uber wealthy capitalist success story feels the need to **** on a system that gave him his wealth because other people may not spend their money the way he wants them to. He's probably rich beyond having a profit motive and needs to give himself purpose through his public role as savior.
People have no responsibility to treat malaria in foreign lands, and if your morals lead you to want to help, then donate money. Otherwise the preferences of people with resources and wealth dictate the direction of product development and distribution. Separation of church and state and such.
Humanists always presume their utilitarian ethics are valid or universally justified.Last edited by DizzySmalls; 03-14-2013 at 10:20 AM.
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