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    Originally Posted by germaine07 View Post
    When bulking, anywhere between 0.64g/lb-0.82g/lb (1.6g/kg-1.8g/kg) will most likely be adequate. So as long as you are getting at least ~120-130g you should be fine.
    ^ The correct answer, see: http://mennohenselmans.com/the-myth-...-bodybuilders/
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    I've read the numbers are lower when bulking and higher when cutting. But when I bulk I eat about 1.3g/goal LBW every time and it has always worked for me. I guess you just have to know your body.
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    Originally Posted by pdt414 View Post
    I've read the numbers are lower when bulking and higher when cutting. But when I bulk I eat about 1.3g/goal LBW every time and it has always worked for me. I guess you just have to know your body.
    Well obviously, it's not like eating more protein than necessary is going to NOT work...
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    Originally Posted by saw7988 View Post
    Well obviously, it's not like eating more protein than necessary is going to NOT work...
    I agree. But the more calories you eat in protein then, possibly, the less calories you will be eating from carbs. And I LOVE CARBS lol
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    If you're only starting off growing is so much easier, you'll find yourself exploding in a few weeks, i remember when I started i had only about 2000 calories a day and abut 50g protein, still gained plenty of muscle for a few months, it's when your newbie gains finish that growing becomes harder and your diet has to be really in-check.
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    Originally Posted by cumminslifter View Post
    if your bulking you can get away with less protein
    1g/lbs IMO is a little low.

    I prefer
    Protein 1.6-2g/lbs
    Carbs 1.5-1.8g/lbs
    Fats .5-.7g/lbs

    To tread starter:
    Protein is important but when bulking carb intake can not be forgotten. How are you going to last your grueling workouts without carbs (stored glycogen aka energy). Try the above macronutrient numbers.
    To meet protein macro you should be at least have whey protein (casein if you can afford it). Eat lean meats, fish, eggs, dairy, and nuts to meet macro needs.
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    1.6g/kg is plenty. Increasing to 2.2g/kg (1g/lb) will achieve nothing but most likely lower energy levels due to lower CHO intake
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    Originally Posted by TidePrideRTR View Post
    1g/lbs IMO is a little low.

    I prefer
    Protein 1.6-2g/lbs
    Carbs 1.5-1.8g/lbs
    Fats .5-.7g/lbs

    To tread starter:
    Protein is important but when bulking carb intake can not be forgotten. How are you going to last your grueling workouts without carbs (stored glycogen aka energy). Try the above macronutrient numbers.
    To meet protein macro you should be at least have whey protein (casein if you can afford it). Eat lean meats, fish, eggs, dairy, and nuts to meet macro needs.
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    Originally Posted by germaine07 View Post
    Research > Your random opinion
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    Post It is easy

    It is very easy to attain that.

    I am around 150lbs

    Breakfast : 1 Scoop Phase8 + 1/2 Scoop Complete Protein Diet (ON) + 1 Banana + 350 skimmed milk

    It gives you around 55 g of Proteins

    Lunch: 150-200 g Chicken Breast + Chickpeas + 200 ml 1% fat milk : you get another 50+ g of proteins

    Pre/Post Work out : 2 Sachets of Accelerade gives 10g of Proteins

    Dinner: similar to break fast: You can easily get 150+ g of proteins.

    and according to caloriecount this diet keeps rest of the nutritions in balance.
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    After reading a bunch about this I don't really think it's necessary. 0.66 grams per lb of body weight seems to be enough. Say you weigh 180 lbs, try to get somewhere in between 120-150 grams per day, and 120 would be enough to get you by assuming they are of fairly high quality.
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    Just a question, if .66-.82g/lb are the protien minimums according to research, why would you deviate those numbers according to Bulk/Cut. Why wouldnt you just hit your minimums, and fill your DCA with whatever you want.
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    Yes, you MUST get 1 gram per pound per day, or else you will lose muscle.
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    Originally Posted by 44Benja View Post
    After reading a bunch about this I don't really think it's necessary. 0.66 grams per lb of body weight seems to be enough. Say you weigh 180 lbs, try to get somewhere in between 120-150 grams per day, and 120 would be enough to get you by assuming they are of fairly high quality.
    It depends on the situation. If bulking, 1.8g/kg is likely enough. If dieting, you may have to up it closer to 2.2g/kg (arbitrary figure) depending on size of caloric deficit and BF % for example.
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    Originally Posted by germaine07 View Post
    It depends on the situation. If bulking, 1.8g/kg is likely enough. If dieting, you may have to up it closer to 2.2g/kg (arbitrary figure) depending on size of caloric deficit and BF % for example.
    Perhaps even higher than 2.2g/kg in certain circumstances.
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    How about these guys?

    Hello,

    I am still trying to workout most easy and sufficient and economic way to meal plans and keep the simplicity of whole nutritios foods and mindful eating.

    How about these guys?:

    Danny Kavadlo, Al Kavadlo and a lot of other workout athletes (and vegetarians also who eat a lot of carbs and not that many proteins) not just from calisthenics but also from gym who just eat whole foods and dont care about macros, protein shakes and suplements as long as they eat a lot of fruits and veggies, nuts, meats, dairy and eggs, legumes and not so much grains or rice and they still keep their bodies in good shape and strenght. In oposition to standard bodybuilding diet they have a lot of fats and carbs in their "lean" regime and not that much protein as reccommended 1g/1pound (or even more) of BW.

    This has always been a big question for me. Or how many slim people remain slim even though they do not workout or eat as healthy as we do. Guys, do you have any shot what I am missing here in fitness industry?

    Thank you.
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    and not that much protein as reccommended 1g/1pound (or even more) of BW.
    The recommended amount of protein is 0.7 gram per lb of bodyweight.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    The recommended amount of protein is 0.7 gram per lb of bodyweight.
    Is that lean bodyweight or total? if total why do you need more protein the more bodyfat you have?
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    Originally Posted by ThinkAndGoHam View Post
    Is that lean bodyweight or total?
    Even when I take all the effort to type in "per lb of bodyweight" you're going to ask me that? Seriously?
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Even when I take all the effort to type in "per lb of bodyweight" you're going to ask me that? Seriously?
    Seriously confused right now? i thought it was a reasonable question :/

    Maybe somebody else can answer who doesn't think " its a lot of effort" to give a simple clarification.
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    Originally Posted by ThinkAndGoHam View Post
    Seriously confused right now? i thought it was a reasonable question :/

    Maybe somebody else can answer who doesn't think " its a lot of effort" to give a simple clarification.
    "Per lb of beodyweight" means exactly what it says. Hint: It does not mean "Per lb of lean bodyweight".
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    Originally Posted by ThinkAndGoHam View Post
    Seriously confused right now?
    I'm not confused, maybe you are. I'm astonished that someone would seriously ask if "0.7 gram per lb of bodyweight" means body weight or LBM.

    Protein intake is based on this systematic review that used total body weight: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28698222
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