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    5/3/1 BBB Challenge or Original Template

    I'm sure most of you are familiar with 5/3/1. If not here is a quick rundown.
    http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_..._pure_strength

    Now Wendler also has a variation call Boring But Big (BBB). I am planning on starting this after spring break. I am just finishing up SS and should probably do the Texas Method but SS has worn me down and I don't think I will be dissappointed if only add 60-120lbs to my core lifts in a year. haha

    This is a link to his "BBB Challenge" http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...onth_challenge

    Now if you look at the template he has laid out you will notice that it is like this:
    Press 5/3/1
    Bench 5x10 50%

    Deadlift 5/3/1
    Squat 5x10 50%

    Bench 5/3/1
    Press 5x10 50%

    Squat 5/3/1
    Deadlift 5x10 50%

    but his original BBB is like this
    Press 5/3/1
    Press 5x10 50%

    Deadlift 5/3/1
    Deadlift 5x10 50%

    Bench 5/3/1
    Bench 5x10 50%

    Squat 5/3/1
    Squat 5x10 50%

    Which do you think is better? I am personally leaning towards the original, but I would love to hear your opinions.

    Challenge Pros/Cons (that I see)
    Pros: more frequency (2x/week)
    Cons: 5x10 @ 50% training max may not be sufficient to cause significant muscle damage without the strength work for the same lift preceding it.

    Original Pros/Cons (that I see)
    Pros: Definitely enough stimulation through high intensity and volume, and leaves a full week for the muscle to recover.
    Cons: Low frequency (1x/week)

    Would love to hear your opinions and about anyone's experience with either template.

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    I like both of them. I would probably lean towards the 3 month template simply because of the increased frequency.
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    Is your goal just strength or appearance as well? If it's both look into 5/3/1 for body building. Pretty much a powerbuilding program, looks pretty damn solid (but what does Wendler write that isn't great haha)
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    Originally Posted by ShaunB61 View Post
    Is your goal just strength or appearance as well? If it's both look into 5/3/1 for body building. Pretty much a powerbuilding program, looks pretty damn solid (but what does Wendler write that isn't great haha)
    I have looked at that one. I feel the BBB will put more overall size on that the for bodybuilding template since it used more compound movements and less isolation. I still need overall size.
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    It doesn't matter. Like at all. Do whichever one you want. IMO if you work out at a crowded gym do the original so you don't have to move around very much and risk waiting for a station.

    Military press and bench hit all the same muscles, the bias is just a little different. Deadlift and squat hit all the same muscles (dl a couple more), the bias is just a little different. So frequency is double no matter what.

    Personally I'd do the challenge one because it's less boring with the same amount of big and you'd be slightly fresher for the second lift. Make the decision based on what you want/like, because there's essentially no difference.
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    Originally Posted by DetMatthews View Post
    It doesn't matter. Like at all. Do whichever one you want. IMO if you work out at a crowded gym do the original so you don't have to move around very much and risk waiting for a station.
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    I think you made have just sold me on the original. My gym is always packed! Especially the good stuff like the racks and platform. lol
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