Any good sleeping aid ?

[pipios]

I was checking this one

Http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mu...z-core-pm.html

Any recommendations ?

[Get-n-fit]

melatonin, always worked great for me

[m314]

Melatonin helps some, but 3 mg leaves me sleepy the next morning. 1 to 1.5 mg is a better dose for me. Magnesium at bedtime can be relaxing, but 113 mg is too small of a dose for me. I generally take 400 mg at night.

That's the main problem I have with supps like this. They throw a bunch of ingredients together without taking into consideration individual tolerance levels. I'd rather buy melatonin and magnesium separately and take the right amount for me.

Taurine is another OTC sleep aid that helps. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) helps too, but that quits working soon if you take it every night. Theanine can be good, but that's another one where you build a tolerance quickly. I've tried virtually every OTC and prescription sleep aid out there. The only one that ultimately works for me is something we're not allowed to discuss here.

[TCO76]

Melatonin works for me when I am really active.. Like 10 hr workday then a hard workout after. Puts me right out. But if I am not very active, I stay away from it.

[JRT6]

Low dosage remeron. Your doctor can perscibe it. First time you take you're out for 12 hours then it's good for 6 hors a night.

[m314]

Low dosage remeron. Your doctor can perscibe it. First time you take you're out for 12 hours then it's good for 6 hors a night.

Sedating antidepressants should really be a last resort (or almost a last resort) when it comes to insomnia. Drugs like Remeron and Trazodone can work, but they do a lot more than just help you sleep. They are powerful drugs with major side effects. I've tried both in desperate times. I wouldn't want to take them for the long term unless they were really the only way I could get some sleep.

[pipios]

Melatonin helps some, but 3 mg leaves me sleepy the next morning. 1 to 1.5 mg is a better dose for me. Magnesium at bedtime can be relaxing, but 113 mg is too small of a dose for me. I generally take 400 mg at night.

That's the main problem I have with supps like this. They throw a bunch of ingredients together without taking into consideration individual tolerance levels. I'd rather buy melatonin and magnesium separately and take the right amount for me.

Taurine is another OTC sleep aid that helps. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) helps too, but that quits working soon if you take it every night. Theanine can be good, but that's another one where you build a tolerance quickly. I've tried virtually every OTC and prescription sleep aid out there. The only one that ultimately works for me is something we're not allowed to discuss here.

Look at this one, I kinda feel its macros are kinda what you are recommending

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/er...x/ergozzz.html

[FiveofClubs]

melatonin, always worked great for me

Me too. I've been taking 3mg of melatonin about an hour before bed for several years. The last research I read claimed it was pretty harmless.

[m314]

Look at this one, I kinda feel its macros are kinda what you are recommending

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/er...x/ergozzz.html

That one's better for me since I could take a smaller dose. I get enough zinc and B6 through my diet and multivitamin, so I don't really need those. I don't believe zinc increases testosterone levels unless you have a zinc deficiency.

This is what I actually take every night:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/magc.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/no...melatonin.html

It's easier to get the right dose with liquid melatonin.

[pipios]

That one's better for me since I could take a smaller dose. I get enough zinc and B6 through my diet and multivitamin, so I don't really need those. I don't believe zinc increases testosterone levels unless you have a zinc deficiency.

This is what I actually take every night:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/magc.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/no...melatonin.html

It's easier to get the right dose with liquid melatonin.

Isn't that too much magnesium ? I don't know a lot but does it has any side effect or is it ok ?

[m314]

Isn't that too much magnesium ? I don't know a lot but does it has any side effect or is it ok ?

That one has 200 mg per pill. 200 mg isn't too much for most people. The main side effect is that it works like a laxative if you have too much. 400 mg at night doesn't have that effect on me, but 1000 mg would. Different people have different tolerances, of course.

[JRT6]

Sedating antidepressants should really be a last resort (or almost a last resort) when it comes to insomnia. Drugs like Remeron and Trazodone can work, but they do a lot more than just help you sleep. They are powerful drugs with major side effects. I've tried both in desperate times. I wouldn't want to take them for the long term unless they were really the only way I could get some sleep.

Totally disagree. They are harmless for most people in low doses and they are a much better alternative to habit causing and brain chemistry changing hypnotics like ****** and benzos. If your sleep is ****ed enough that it's affecting your life you do what you can. Melatonin is a joke placebo doctors suggest to people to get them out of their office.

[Corbi]

I have trazadone and it works, perhaps a little too well. If I take a full one my next day is a wasted morning because i'm so groggy and have zero energy. 1/2 a tablet is all I take now and even that is only maybe once every 2-3 months.

Have tried melatonin and it didn't do a damn thing. ZMA gives me real fukked up dreams so i won't take that anymore.

[RetBodyBuilder]

I mostly sleep well, thankfully. Once a week or so I might not and in anticipation I take 3 mg melatonin and that gets me real drowsy. Glad to hear it's not harmful.

[MASSter]

Melatonin works well for me. And sex.

[MuscleSpeedo]

I use an allergy medicine from Costco. It's like $4.00 for 400 pills...... Kirkland Signature Allergy Medicine Diphenhydramine HCI 25 MG, 400 Minitabs. Seems more expensive on Amazon, but they also have it.

I bought it for allergies, but found I couldn't stay awake while on it. I started taking it as a sleep aid and have used it for several years. I take one pill 2 hours before bed and one pill when I go to bed.

[cmoore]

400mg of magnesium before bed here.

Precautions:

Because of the potential for side effects and interactions with medications, dietary supplements should be taken only under the supervision of a knowledgeable health care provider.
Since magnesium is excreted by the kidneys, people with heart or kidney disease should not take magnesium supplements except under their doctor's supervision.
It is very rare to overdose on magnesium from food. However, people who ingest large amounts of milk of magnesia (as a laxative or antacid), epsom salts (as a laxative or tonic), or magnesium supplements may overdose, especially if they have kidney problems. Too much magnesium can cause serious health problems, including nausea, vomiting, severely lowered blood pressure, confusion, slowed heart rate, respiratory paralysis, deficiencies of other minerals, coma, cardiac arrhythmias, cariac arrest, and death.
More common side effects from magnesium include upset stomach and diarrhea.
Magnesium competes with calcium for absorption and can cause a calcium deficiency if calcium levels are already low. Some medications may lower magnesium levels in the body. These include chemotherapy drugs, diuretics, digoxin (Lanoxin), steroids, and certain antibiotics.

[trickyB]

Anybody ever try L-theanine? It was recommended to my girlfriend as a sleep aid.

[MASSter]

Anybody ever try L-theanine? It was recommended to my girlfriend as a sleep aid.

This is the melatonin I take(from Costco) which also has GABA and Theanine and works well for me.

[SASQUATCH7212]

muscle Pharm "Bulletproof"

[Robbase69]

I've been taking Somnapure samples the GNC guy gave me and its knocking me out, but I think it may be the melatonin.

[gunny7258]

i really like the 3Z By AI Sports

[Phattso]

Sedating antidepressants should really be a last resort (or almost a last resort) when it comes to insomnia. Drugs like Remeron and Trazodone can work, but they do a lot more than just help you sleep. They are powerful drugs with major side effects. I've tried both in desperate times. I wouldn't want to take them for the long term unless they were really the only way I could get some sleep.

Remeron is probably the least powerful and not even powerful. It is not a sedating drug. One of the more friendly but effective anti-depressants.

Totally disagree. They are harmless for most people in low doses and they are a much better alternative to habit causing and brain chemistry changing hypnotics like ****** and benzos. If your sleep is ****ed enough that it's affecting your life you do what you can. Melatonin is a joke placebo doctors suggest to people to get them out of their office.

Agreed.

[michail71]

I have a weird reaction if I take either melatonin or GABA. I can't sleep for a couple of nights. Yes, not hours but nights. I'll never touch melatonin or GABA pills again. I just make sure to use dimmers and keep away from bright light sources before bed.

I discovered by accident that l-Arginine supplementation helps me get into a deep sleep.

[Gym God]

I have a weird reaction if I take either melatonin or GABA. I can't sleep for a couple of nights. Yes, not hours but nights. I'll never touch melatonin or GABA pills again. I just make sure to use dimmers and keep away from bright light sources before bed.

I discovered by accident that l-Arginine supplementation helps me get into a deep sleep.

That's funny. Many have repeated that l-arginine keeps them up. Interesting. True though with GABA, it can temporarily mess you up if you're not careful.

Now to the question.... some GABA (500mg - 1000mg) and l-theanine works wonders. Melatonin is over-rated and over-used.

[brava]

Melatonin for me as well, works very well. Some strange dreams though

[ChicagoWineGeek]

Melatonin and L tryptophan works good. I also like Nimbus Poseidon Night Time

http://www.nimbusnutrition.com/icon-...don-night-time

[patronizeyoufor]

Melatonin and valerian root work great for me. Dreams always include vivid sex and ants. Last night dreamed I was licking a girls azzhoe and ants crawled out of it and all over her body so I turned her around and ****ed her and her face literally fell off. Good times.

[BalhamBeast]

Melatonin is prescription only in the UK. I did buy some in the US and I found it made me feel groggy without actually sending me to sleep, so that was a fail.
I always find ZMA helps me get a good quality sleep. You can also look into 5-HTP.

[trickyB]

This is the melatonin I take(from Costco) which also has GABA and Theanine and works well for me.

Thanks for the feedback, you too Gym God.