I don't know it just looks like hes got thicker skin or something than some of the guys, it could be water. He looks off off off until he hits a pose and then all the lines come in and he owns whoever is next to him for the most part. Its like the damage was done for him just as a result of his appearance when walking around on stage or between poses. you see him from the back and you jump straight to 'yep hes off, looks soft as hell' and then he hits the pose and the striated glutes seem to come out of nowhere as does the lower back and everything else. I was disappointed I thought he should have been 4th-5th definitely not 6th. Ben Toney and Dexter were the top 3 though, Ive got no issues with that at all
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03-02-2013, 11:39 PM #34
Conditioning apparently means more than size or balance. It's kind of sad when people with incomplete muscles but better conditioning beat the better looking bodybuilder. JoJ has no quads and no calves, and Cedric dwarfed him bad, but his conditioning owned Cedric so he beat him. I'm sick of incomplete bodybuilders winning anything. If you are missing calves, quads or forearms GTFO the stage. This isn't the Clarance Bass Classic. I think the judges got it right, but my gripe is that criteria is wrong. Mass should be king, followed by symmetry followed by conditioning being the last thing to consider.6'2"
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JOJ is becoming one of the most overrated guys in the IFBB. Maybe because he trains with Branch? I'm not saying Ced should have won, but Ced kills JOJ in those pics.
No legs and although his traps and back are world class, his bdb looks surprisingly bad.
and if legs don't count anymore, then Joel Stubbs should put his posing trunks back on and get on the Olympia stage.
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03-03-2013, 02:25 AM #40
I'm disappointed like most of you guys, but I've learned not to be biased. In the end why do you have to be angry at some bull**** like this. It happens every time and will happen in the judging of bodybuilding lol. I sure wanted to see Ced at least 3rd but what can I do now?
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The extra sharpness should not make up for skinny legs, disgusting stomachs, out of proportion physiques, lack of flow, shape, etc etc. Just because cedric wasn't as dry he automatically loses every pose? I think because JOJ got **** quads, there's no way he could beat anyone in that top 6 lineup in most poses. ETC ETC ETC
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03-03-2013, 07:01 AM #48People these days have more reps than brain cells
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03-03-2013, 10:46 AM #51
i understand his slightly off condition would warrant a bump in points, but i cannot for the life of me justify him losing to hide, toney, and joj. if he should have lost to them, this thread is for people to demonstrate my ignorance.
i get ced had ONE SHOT where his abs looked soft (which can be attributable to a number of things, as an earlier comparison shot demonstrates). yet in every comparison he is AS conditioned if not MORE than the people who are supposedly "better conditioned". i don't get it.
my biggest gripe is that they(announcers/posters) cried all day long about how "ced wasn't in condition", but simultaneously praised toney and joj for having "the best conditioning of their careers"...and comparatively ced was more overall conditioned than both ALL DAY. (i'll spare night shots, as ced looked even better)
GREAT condition, best of his career apparently...
GREAT condition, worth competing with DEX...
WHY IS HE EVEN ON THE STAGE condition...
i don't even know where to begin. they even regurgitated this last night WHILE ANNOUNCING "shows are won from the back"... what am i missing?___________________________________________________________
from 6th to 3rd ...and on to 1st?
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apparently some can't get over the fact that i'm crying cedric didn't win... i'm not. yet this is what i'm getting...
"you are quite possibly the biggest phaggot on these boards based on your posts the last two days...did you cry yourself to sleep when obama won too? get over it phaggot, you're 31 years old u little fuking bitch"...~anonymous poster in my CP
so let me clarify for those of you who don't like reading what i actually say on this topic.
1. i don't think cedric should have won (and at his best i can't say, and never have claimed, for certain he WOULD have beat dex, but i like to hope). DEX was on top of his game from the onset and had this shored up.
2. i don't think cedric was at his all time best conditioning. heck, i don't think cedric thinks that.
3. i consider myself a fan of this sport. as a fan that watches, i don't blindly follow the images on screen...i like to know the criteria and rules this sport abides by.
4. given those rules, i don't see how cedric placed where he did, and have no basis moving forward to expand my understanding of IFBB judging.
5. i don't want consensus that cedric should have won, or placed in any particular spot.
6. i DO WANT an explanation, using the available information (pics and video) and criteria, of the judged comparisons from the show explaining WHY my understanding of the judging was so far removed from that of the judges.
now, everytime i've asked for this i've only been told "he was off" and "the judges saw it so i believe it". neither of those increases my knowledge or understanding.
IF cedric was off, warranting a placing behind JoJ or Freeman, please show me WHERE his condition lacked overall compared to theirs. pics are here...___________________________________________________________
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Nothing has to be proven because the judges believed he wasnt conditioned enough, the commentators said it too, and many people on this forum said it as well. Whats done is done. All i know is that this is not top level conditioning -
He looked good overall, came in much better at the finals, and has a good future ahead in the sport, but yesterday, his showing in the prejudging especially was off, he just needed another couple of weeks to dial it in a bit better
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Im still pretty shocked Ben Pakulski came in 2nd! From the front he has improved a whole bunch but from the back, he looked horrible to me, compared to the counterparts, i dunno, what do i know, but maybe the judges really let the crowd get in their heads??
hahaha, is JOJ shorter than Hide?? He looked so short, weird, im also shocked at how well Hide did and how he remained so consistent through all the rounds, a true professional, i was expecting a 8th-10th finish for him. Overall, it was a much better AC than i expected though, but of course it would not be an IFBB event without controversy.On a mission to get at least 25 of my pounds back! Comeback began 12/5/12.
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Pro Bodybuilding needs a complete revamp. Guts should be punished hard. IMO (and most of ya'll) guts and lack of proportions/symmetry should be punished harder than a little bit off conditioning. Guts need to get away from bodybuilding. Or it will lose even more popularity.. Its not about looking great anymore.. Its a freak show, with a cult following. I hope Ced brings a revolution.
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