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    Unhappy Does testosterone production "restart" in older men if we start working out?

    Not to go into too many details but since I started really lifting, as in with a set goal and heavier weights on a regular basis and a solid nutrition base, some things have happened that I wasn't prepared for.

    1) Sex drive has gone through the roof. I'm 40 and my wife is 29. She is currently pregnant with our first child and she gets more attractive every day. As such I'm more "attracted" to her several times a week.

    2) I have less tolerance for stupid/rude people. It's gotten to the point that someone will push past me in the grocery store (as in push their shoulder into me to walk by) and my response is a verbal statement and an aggressive step forward.

    I've looked at my supplements a couple of times and have read the warnings over and over but there isn't anything written to suggest that there may be an increased amount of aggression or lack of tolerance for stupidity. Even did some web searches but nothing came up equating lifting with what's going on with me. I'm not a big guy, I'm not a rude/mean/meathead. I'm pretty tolerant and low key. Hell I've only ever been in 2 fights in my life..... now it seems I'm just looking for an excuse.

    This is not something I like, this is not something I want to become a pattern. Is it just some off shoot of the self confidence that I feel from being a more fit person? Some stupid quirk of waiting until I was 40 to start working out? Am I high??
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    Originally Posted by Junkers88 View Post
    Not to go into too many details but since I started really lifting, as in with a set goal and heavier weights on a regular basis and a solid nutrition base, some things have happened that I wasn't prepared for.

    1) Sex drive has gone through the roof. I'm 40 and my wife is 29. She is currently pregnant with our first child and she gets more attractive every day. As such I'm more "attracted" to her several times a week.

    2) I have less tolerance for stupid/rude people. It's gotten to the point that someone will push past me in the grocery store (as in push their shoulder into me to walk by) and my response is a verbal statement and an aggressive step forward.

    I've looked at my supplements a couple of times and have read the warnings over and over but there isn't anything written to suggest that there may be an increased amount of aggression or lack of tolerance for stupidity. Even did some web searches but nothing came up equating lifting with what's going on with me. I'm not a big guy, I'm not a rude/mean/meathead. I'm pretty tolerant and low key. Hell I've only ever been in 2 fights in my life..... now it seems I'm just looking for an excuse.

    This is not something I like, this is not something I want to become a pattern. Is it just some off shoot of the self confidence that I feel from being a more fit person? Some stupid quirk of waiting until I was 40 to start working out? Am I high??
    Actually, intolerance, irritability and aggressive behavior have been linked to lower testosterone levels and elevated estrogen levels.
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    Originally Posted by michail71 View Post
    Actually, intolerance, irritability and aggressive behavior have been linked to lower testosterone levels and elevated estrogen levels.
    So I'm less tolerant because I'm less masculine? Awesome....... I could at least have my own boobs to play with.....
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    It doesn't "re-start" but it does increase, especially if you've lost bodyfat.
    Imo, yeah, sounds like more Test production, not less.
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    Originally Posted by Junkers88 View Post
    This is not something I like
    You don't like sex?
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    Originally Posted by Junkers88 View Post
    So I'm less tolerant because I'm less masculine? Awesome....... I could at least have my own boobs to play with.....
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    As far as the aggression part, I can relate. I've always been one of those guys that steps down from the sidewalk or moves out of the way for others, even young kids. But I find myself not doing that anymore..and to my amazement, people step aside for me. Not saying that they won't before I took up serious BB, just kind of find it strange that the shoe is on the other foot. Oh..and a recent story to relate, I was in a club the other night, near the entrance..when this group of guys come in, mid 20's and one of them has his arms up in the air and starts yelling...yea, we're here, yea that's right, we're here. I couldn't believe what came out of my mouth next, I said in an equally loud voice, "yea, the a$$holes are here". Something I wouldn't have NEVER thought I'd say. He looked at me, up and down..and didn't say a word..walked away. Just so you know, I don't drink now..mostly for health reason, but also afraid in the back of my mind I may get more aggressive. My SO has also mentioned she has noticed a change in my personality.
    As far as sex, M&F did a survey and it mentioned that men that took up BB have more partners and end up "stealing" other women away to a much higher percentage than joe six packs (that's not referring to their abs btw). So bottomline, I think you are normal.
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    Originally Posted by 2nd_chance View Post
    You don't like sex?
    Man I loves me some sex, don't get it twisted.

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    Oh this is just the beginning.

    Originally Posted by BlackSwan88 View Post
    So bottomline, I think you are normal.
    That's good to hear. Some of my coworkers have been asking questions about what I'm taking or what's going on at home. The phrase "roid boy" has been tossed around a couple of times and all it does is piss me off. *laugh*
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    Originally Posted by Junkers88 View Post
    Not to go into too many details but since I started really lifting, as in with a set goal and heavier weights on a regular basis and a solid nutrition base, some things have happened that I wasn't prepared for.

    1) Sex drive has gone through the roof. I'm 40 and my wife is 29. She is currently pregnant with our first child and she gets more attractive every day. As such I'm more "attracted" to her several times a week.

    2) I have less tolerance for stupid/rude people. It's gotten to the point that someone will push past me in the grocery store (as in push their shoulder into me to walk by) and my response is a verbal statement and an aggressive step forward.

    I've looked at my supplements a couple of times and have read the warnings over and over but there isn't anything written to suggest that there may be an increased amount of aggression or lack of tolerance for stupidity. Even did some web searches but nothing came up equating lifting with what's going on with me. I'm not a big guy, I'm not a rude/mean/meathead. I'm pretty tolerant and low key. Hell I've only ever been in 2 fights in my life..... now it seems I'm just looking for an excuse.

    This is not something I like, this is not something I want to become a pattern. Is it just some off shoot of the self confidence that I feel from being a more fit person? Some stupid quirk of waiting until I was 40 to start working out? Am I high??
    Sounds like to me you are just having more self confidence in yourself which is always a good thing.Keep up the good work.
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    Nothing too serious - the aggression could have any number of sources, but natural test production shouldn't be sufficient to cause you to suddenly leap out of your skin at the slightest transgression. In all likelihood, it's a combination of any number of things. Since you recognize it, you can stop yourself from going over the top. Just remember to see the signs, and breathe. The go to the gym, and squat 405!
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    Alright this is what you do, start eating more nuts, more wild salmon fish oil, more spinach and all that good testosterone food. Than sit back and watch your ball sac increase in size to like 20x. LOL

    Wish I had this testosterone increase LOL
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    I've been experiencing the same thing since I started lifting seriously OP, and I was wondering the same things. It's good to know that it's not just me that is experiencing these things.
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    Could be the self confidence. I'm a newbie here starting my own training, but I've been doing martial arts for a year. It took awhile, but once the self confidence started showing I wasn't the same person I was before. I'm a big man..6'8" 285lbs but I've always been very meek and humble. But like you stated I've kind of started acting differently, not in a I'm looking for trouble way, more like a I'm not taking crap anymore way. I think it's the self confidence I've gained and not knowing how to handle it since I've been so meek in the past. Someone mentioned low t..I'm going to a urologist because the soldier is not standing at attention like he used too. I had my t checked a few years ago and the dr said it was fine. Is this something that they miss alot? What levels should an average guy be at. And can someone tell my rookie butt what OP means?
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    CK...OP means original poster...the guy/gal that starts the tread.

    At 6'8, meek and humble? Wow...
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    Originally Posted by ScubaDave View Post
    Nothing too serious - the aggression could have any number of sources, but natural test production shouldn't be sufficient to cause you to suddenly leap out of your skin at the slightest transgression. In all likelihood, it's a combination of any number of things. Since you recognize it, you can stop yourself from going over the top. Just remember to see the signs, and breathe. The go to the gym, and squat 405!
    This is sound advice. If people are calling you roidboy because you are getting bigger, then good. But if it's because of aggression, you better get a handle on it.
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    Originally Posted by tryintorebuild View Post
    This is sound advice. If people are calling you roidboy because you are getting bigger, then good. But if it's because of aggression, you better get a handle on it.
    Well I wear bib overalls and a huge Carhart jacket all day at work (we're still below freezing up here, sometimes well below) so it's not from any visible size increase. I'm thinking its because I'm no longer really in the mood to take any crap from anyone. Ck mentioned being meek and humble, yeah that was me for as long as I can remember. The aggression is still there but I've got a handle on it. Did a quick eval of life around me and there are a few factors outside of my control that are driving me towards aggression. I'll not go into them on a public forum but I'm doing what I can to avoid being around those people/situations.
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    Hell I've only ever been in 2 fights in my life..... now it seems I'm just looking for an excuse.
    Where do you live? I've been looking for a good fight as well, maybe we can help each other out.
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    Originally Posted by Junkers88 View Post

    2) I have less tolerance for stupid/rude people. It's gotten to the point that someone will push past me in the grocery store (as in push their shoulder into me to walk by) and my response is a verbal statement and an aggressive
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    Originally Posted by ArchAngel'73 View Post
    It doesn't "re-start" but it does increase, especially if you've lost bodyfat.
    Imo, yeah, sounds like more Test production, not less.
    ^This.

    Generally speaking the more active you are (to a point) and the less bodyfat you have (again to a point) the higher your test levels will be.

    I've lost about 40 pounds now (still working on it) and my starting testosterone levels were around 289 which is low by most standards and some MDs might prescrobe testosterone. I'm looking forward to getting restested here in about a month to see if my testosterone levels are up with my weight loss.
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    Originally Posted by thnikkaman View Post
    I've been experiencing the same thing since I started lifting seriously OP, and I was wondering the same things. It's good to know that it's not just me that is experiencing these things.
    Same here..my sex drive is through the roof when I lost 80 lbs and pumping iron.
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    OPie, same thing happened to me when i started lifting at 17, except my test. was at its all time high and i didn't get my 29 year old GF pregos.
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    where do you live? I've been looking for a good fight as well, maybe we can help each other out.
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    Originally Posted by Junkers88 View Post
    Not to go into too many details but since I started really lifting, as in with a set goal and heavier weights on a regular basis and a solid nutrition base, some things have happened that I wasn't prepared for.

    1) Sex drive has gone through the roof. I'm 40 and my wife is 29. She is currently pregnant with our first child and she gets more attractive every day. As such I'm more "attracted" to her several times a week.

    2) I have less tolerance for stupid/rude people. It's gotten to the point that someone will push past me in the grocery store (as in push their shoulder into me to walk by) and my response is a verbal statement and an aggressive step forward.

    I've looked at my supplements a couple of times and have read the warnings over and over but there isn't anything written to suggest that there may be an increased amount of aggression or lack of tolerance for stupidity. Even did some web searches but nothing came up equating lifting with what's going on with me. I'm not a big guy, I'm not a rude/mean/meathead. I'm pretty tolerant and low key. Hell I've only ever been in 2 fights in my life..... now it seems I'm just looking for an excuse.

    This is not something I like, this is not something I want to become a pattern. Is it just some off shoot of the self confidence that I feel from being a more fit person? Some stupid quirk of waiting until I was 40 to start working out? Am I high??
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    Originally Posted by MCrow View Post
    ^This.

    Generally speaking the more active you are (to a point) and the less bodyfat you have (again to a point) the higher your test levels will be.

    I've lost about 40 pounds now (still working on it) and my starting testosterone levels were around 289 which is low by most standards and some MDs might prescrobe testosterone. I'm looking forward to getting restested here in about a month to see if my testosterone levels are up with my weight loss.
    My T levels increased after losing the bodyfat.
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    The aggression probably has less to do with increased testosterone and more to do with the "I lift weights which makes me a bad-ass" syndrome that often afflicts unsuspecting gym rats.
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    The aggression probably has less to do with increased testosterone and more to do with the "I lift weights which makes me a bad-ass" syndrome that often afflicts unsuspecting gym rats.
    Usually accompanied by ILS and the weightlifter "walk." All very funny when used together.
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    The aggression probably has less to do with increased testosterone and more to do with the "I lift weights which makes me a bad-ass" syndrome that often afflicts unsuspecting gym rats.
    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    Usually accompanied by ILS and the weightlifter "walk." All very funny when used together.
    What these guys said x2...
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    Where do you live? I've been looking for a good fight as well, maybe we can help each other out.
    LOL - that's too funny....but then knowing bodyhard, it's probably pretty accurate as well....
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    Originally Posted by Smelly bull View Post
    What these guys said x2...
    I refer to this as IWGS (Intense White Guy Syndrome). Although not certainly limited to the white guys - I'm in Thailand, and the only guys who walk around like these, with their Bert Stares, and over the top attitude are the white guys. The Thais (even the ones on the Nat'l Bodybuilding Team), don't take themselves so seriously.
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    Originally Posted by Brackneyc View Post
    Usually accompanied by ILS and the weightlifter "walk." All very funny when used together.
    Whats ILS? I do know what the walk looks like though. I work with a guy who hits the gym about 6 times a month and you can tell when he's been in since his strut changes. *laugh*
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