Exercises for shoulders

[AntonisD]

Hello dudes,

Currently doing a push/pull routine (4 days a week).

For shoulders I do military presses on push days (3x8-12) and upright rows on pull days (3x8-12).

Do you think this is enough of a shoulder workout? (i assume the posterior delt gets hit enough with wide grip seated cable rows)

Cheers

[AntonisD]

Dat dere jump

[mfpd00]

Are you happy with your shoulder development? If not, then try adding in exercises to better hit the various parts. Try side laterals, bent flyes, front raises, arnold presses, handstand push ups, etc... There are several things you could add to a shoulder workout.

Mine looks like:
Standing military press superset with front raises
Side lateral
Arnold press superset with bent flyes

I do them on the same day as traps and do:
Barbell shrugs
DB shrugs

[AntonisD]

Are you happy with your shoulder development? If not, then try adding in exercises to better hit the various parts. Try side laterals, bent flyes, front raises, arnold presses, handstand push ups, etc... There are several things you could add to a shoulder workout.

Mine looks like:
Standing military press superset with front raises
Side lateral
Arnold press superset with bent flyes

I do them on the same day as traps and do:
Barbell shrugs
DB shrugs

Have just started my routine so i cant tell yet.

Please note that im doing a push/pull routine so theres not much space for isolation exercises. To give you a better idea my routine looks like this:

Push: all 3 x 8-12
Squats
Leg extensions
Incline DB press
Decline DB press
Standing military press
Decline DB tricep extensions
Calf press

Pull: all 3 x 8-12
SLDLs
Leg curls
Lat pulldowns
Seated wide grip cable rows
Upright rows
DB bicep curls
Ab twists/leg pullins

[AntonisD]

Jump squat

[AntonisD]

C'mon dudes!

[mln86]

Have just started my routine so i cant tell yet.

Please note that im doing a push/pull routine so theres not much space for isolation exercises. To give you a better idea my routine looks like this:

Push: all 3 x 8-12
Squats
Leg extensions
Incline DB press
Decline DB press-->BB flat bench press
Standing military press
Decline DB tricep extensions
Calf press

Pull: all 3 x 8-12
SLDLs
Leg curls
Lat pulldowns-->Pull-ups
Seated wide grip cable rows-->Bent-over row
Upright rows
DB bicep curls
Sit-ups/leg pullins

You're getting plenty of work on delts with your pressing exercises. The upright row will take care of your side delts and the bent-over row you'll hit your rear delts fair. As you stated, you just started the routine, so, givie it some time to work. Shoulder development should be fine.

I would switch some of the exercises, though. Flat bench press is better than declines, these only limit your ROM anyway. Also, pull-ups are much better than the pulldowm machine alternative. If you can't do them by your own, then do them assisted and work your strengh up, they'll blast your lats. The bent-over row is also a better back builder than any rowing machine. Lastly, only "twist" your abs if you wanna increase waist (why would you want that anyway?), otherwise, no need for obliques, stick with weighted sit-ups.

Good overall push/pull btw.

[Osgood54]

Hello dudes,

Currently doing a push/pull routine (4 days a week).

For shoulders I do military presses on push days (3x8-12) and upright rows on pull days (3x8-12).

Do you think this is enough of a shoulder workout? (i assume the posterior delt gets hit enough with wide grip seated cable rows)

Cheers

Hi you could try,
Seated Overhead Dumbbell Press,Side Lateral Raises,Bent Over Rear Lateral Raises,
If I had to choose one, I’d recommend going with standing cable side laterals. This is because cable side laterals keep the tension on the deltoid throughout the entire movement, whereas at the bottom of a dumbbell side lateral there is almost no tension on the shoulder at all.
For the Bent Over Rear Lateral Raises the cables are probably a better choice as well
Good luck, TRAIN WELL

[johndouglas78]

You're getting plenty of work on delts with your pressing exercises. The upright row will take care of your side delts and the bent-over row you'll hit your rear delts fair. As you stated, you just started the routine, so, givie it some time to work. Shoulder development should be fine.

I would switch some of the exercises, though. Flat bench press is better than declines, these only limit your ROM anyway. Also, pull-ups are much better than the pulldowm machine alternative. If you can't do them by your own, then do them assisted and work your strengh up, they'll blast your lats. The bent-over row is also a better back builder than any rowing machine. Lastly, only "twist" your abs if you wanna increase waist (why would you want that anyway?), otherwise, no need for obliques, stick with weighted sit-ups.

Good overall push/pull btw.

Yes, it's too much.

[Osgood54]

Hello dudes,

Currently doing a push/pull routine (4 days a week).

For shoulders I do military presses on push days (3x8-12) and upright rows on pull days (3x8-12).

Do you think this is enough of a shoulder workout? (i assume the posterior delt gets hit enough with wide grip seated cable rows)

Cheers

Hi you could try,
Seated Overhead Dumbbell Press,Side Lateral Raises,Bent Over Rear Lateral Raises,
If I had to choose one, I’d recommend going with standing cable side laterals. This is because cable side laterals keep the tension on the deltoid throughout the entire movement, whereas at the bottom of a dumbbell side lateral there is almost no tension on the shoulder at all.
For the Bent Over Rear Lateral Raises the cables are probably a better choice as well
Good luck, TRAIN WELL

[rand18m]

You're getting plenty of work on delts with your pressing exercises. The upright row will take care of your side delts and the bent-over row you'll hit your rear delts fair. As you stated, you just started the routine, so, givie it some time to work. Shoulder development should be fine.

I would switch some of the exercises, though. Flat bench press is better than declines, these only limit your ROM anyway. Also, pull-ups are much better than the pulldowm machine alternative. If you can't do them by your own, then do them assisted and work your strengh up, they'll blast your lats. The bent-over row is also a better back builder than any rowing machine. Lastly, only "twist" your abs if you wanna increase waist (why would you want that anyway?), otherwise, no need for obliques, stick with weighted sit-ups.

Good overall push/pull btw.

This x 2! ^^

[AntonisD]

You're getting plenty of work on delts with your pressing exercises. The upright row will take care of your side delts and the bent-over row you'll hit your rear delts fair. As you stated, you just started the routine, so, givie it some time to work. Shoulder development should be fine.

I would switch some of the exercises, though. Flat bench press is better than declines, these only limit your ROM anyway. Also, pull-ups are much better than the pulldowm machine alternative. If you can't do them by your own, then do them assisted and work your strengh up, they'll blast your lats. The bent-over row is also a better back builder than any rowing machine. Lastly, only "twist" your abs if you wanna increase waist (why would you want that anyway?), otherwise, no need for obliques, stick with weighted sit-ups.

Good overall push/pull btw.

Thanks for the reply man, good advice!

[TakeEverything]

My personal push/pull
(push days)

Psh 1-
TGU-1x3
Hang clean-3x5
Front squat-3x10
1A DB bench-3x8
Push press-3x5

Psh2-
TGU-1x3
Power clean-3x5
Military press-3x10
Incline bench-3x8
Split squat or lunge-3x5

Just to show some reflection towards yours. I'd personally lose the upright rows and just add cleans.

[AntonisD]

My personal push/pull
(push days)

Psh 1-
TGU-1x3
Hang clean-3x5
Front squat-3x10
1A DB bench-3x8
Push press-3x5

Psh2-
TGU-1x3
Power clean-3x5
Military press-3x10
Incline bench-3x8
Split squat or lunge-3x5

Just to show some reflection towards yours. I'd personally lose the upright rows and just add cleans.

Not sure if srs...