Continue the Journey or Burger King?

[Deku]

I had to gather my balls and my pride to post this.
I think I was once lean and mean. Best friend passed away in 2009 and I let myself go.
Spiked from 180lbs @ around 8-10% BF to 220ish.

Around last year I tried Insanity and dropped 30lbs in under 2 months. I had all these good feels.
After doing that once, I just stopped. Started a new job surrounded by biggins, if you know what I mean. Boredom at work + eating out all the time, I was back to 215lb before I knew what hit me. Peer pressure.

I went as far as to deleting my old BodySpace and made a new account because I knew looking at my old self would be discouraging. Before it was 150 - 180. This time it would be backwards. Maybe it's all mental and I'm just being too hard on myself. Beating myself up for it. Maybe I'm on the right path. I don't know. I rewrote my whole lifestyle.

So I waited until Jan 7 for the New Years Resolutioners to drop out of the gym and started.
Been doing the Kris Gethin 12 Week Trainer.
Following the diet very closely.
Day 52 and I am not happy with myself. My girlfriend won't let me do that "Muscletech" or whatever the codename for it is these days. Lol.
I kind of see it, but maybe I just hang around MISC too much.

Am I doing alright? Do I keep pushing through or just have it my way tomorrow and pretend I never tried?
Looking for honest feedback. Much appreciated, thanks. Is there hope or am I just kidding myself?

[Peter_Klim]

McDonald's has better fries...

[Peter_Klim]

Jk with my previous post. You're doing real good! Don't be so down on yourself. I see a huge change! Keep at it

[Dpanthers14]

dude your looking good, keep up the good work. You'll be back to your old self in no time!!

[Deku]

Jk with my previous post. You're doing real good! Don't be so down on yourself. I see a huge change! Keep at it

You had me all excited for tomorrow.

dude your looking good, keep up the good work. You'll be back to your old self in no time!!

Staying strong. Looks like I ate my old self. Lol.

[gbullock32]

That's damn good progress for 52 days, keep going or you will probably regret it for the rest of your life.

[Murdomac101]

Dude you are well on your way to losing the fat you gained. I think you have made great progress. Just make your you stick with it, these things don't happen over night. When you finish gethins redo it, or start another program (I'm doing Jason db's in the workout routine stickies and seeing great results) and do that for another 3 - 6 months. Keep your diet clean and by the end of this year you'll be really happy with how you look.

[bigbigfrog]

u don't see progress? get glasses op... keep going man.

[77sem77]

there is a progress. keep doing.

[siimng1979]

I see improvement bro - big time!
Keep at it. 52 days isn't even 2 months, so great going so far.
If you've done that well in 2 months, then think about the changes in a further 2 months, 4 months, 6 months
Great work so far.

[georgemiller]

It's a marathon, not a sprint. For 52 days that is great progress! 52 days is nothing man. It will be 104 days before you know it and so on. That time is going to pass either way right? Keep at it. Why are you thinking of throwing in the towel? Where is that going to get you? Not to be harsh but it sounds like you need a kick in the ass this morning. So here is a friendly kick! Eat clean today and go destroy the iron! The results will keep coming. You know this!

[OldSchoolBuild]

You're doing fine, if you quit the only person you're hurting is yourself... why would anybody want to do that? Keep doing what you're doing, and sir... you're YEARS away from using "celltech" if you do make that decision, and on top of that... you're going to let a gf tell you what you can and can't do? Until she's a wife, she's just a girl you know... and there are MANY women out there. Do what you want to do, and don't let your girl run your life (Unless it's celltech lol... you won't need that for a long time.)

[Deku]

Thanks for the kind words, support and motivation to continue on. I expected worse criticism. I will continue on.

About that there Celltech, I thought it was the Celltech and 2 Pop Tarts a day diet. Haha.

If you were in my shoes, would you eat the little Kraft Cheese and Crackers thing? One of my coworkers has one in the back. I've been staring at it for days.

[georgemiller]

Haha, no I would not eat that garbage. Especially on a cut like now. If I am gonna have a cheat meal/snack it better well be worth it and it better be what I want more than any other food. Best advice I can give you for the cravings is to just give in for one meal and then regroup. If you are craving stuff that bad then consciously make the decision to have a cheat meal. Just a meal though. Not a binge and not a whole day. If you want that Whopper and fries then go get it. Just make up for it in the gym. Don't do this more than once per week though. Also, it sounds like it would be wise to get some healthy snacks for your work. If you get hungry then you have something to satisfy. Its that much harder when you are starving and staring down temptation. Hopefully in before you ate the damn cheese crackers lol.

[OldSchoolBuild]

Hell No I wouldn't eat that.... Stick to your diet 100%... then when you cheat, cheat 100%. My Cheatmeal is usually a 1/2 lbs Bacon Cheeseburger, Cheese Fries, 2 beers and sometimes some frozen yogurt. Every 2 weeks.

[Deku]

I just stare at this junk. Don't worry, I didn't cave. These cheat meals everyone has sounds epic.

I went out to dinner with friends and said I'd have a cheat meal.
It was a Chicken Salad with some cheese, a little ranch and some bbq sauce. I guess that wasn't really a cheat meal. I felt guilty about it.

[ridethektrain]

Damn keep it up man, I can already see the width shrinking. Don't give up, at first it will seem as though your not making progress, but just remind yourself that at the end of your diet/program you will see a HUGE difference.

[cagliostro]

You may diet down at burger king too, do you know? Just have a look at those hamburgers' nutrition facts, it would be even easier setting a cutting diet at burger's king or mcdonald's than at home!
5 mcbacon's a day make a 2400 kcal low carb diet (in italy it's 470 kcal each), one for breakfast, one for snack, another for lunch, afternoon snack and dinner and you're gone.
Plenty of protein and fats.

And let me say, fast food's hamburgers aren't definitively "junk food": bread + beef meat + cheese + dressing... where is the junky ingredient in there???
Junk food may be fries, potatoes, mcnuggets... but the only REAL junk in that kind of food is that is damn GOOD TASTING! and very quick to eat, that's makes overeating very easy; but that's a problem only for those WHO DON'T COUNT CALORIES. I may throw in 1000 kcal of fast food meal in 5 minutes, while it takes me half an hour to eat the same calories launching at home... but as far as I count calories I'll never get fat eating at fast foods.

[Deku]

Meanwhile in Italy...

[cagliostro]

You didn't get it, it's 90% a matter of counting calories, not eating this or that ****. If you order a steak at a restaurant they won't say you how much calories is that meal; at mcdonald's they do.

[OldSchoolBuild]

You didn't get it, it's 90% a matter of counting calories, not eating this or that ****. If you order a steak at a restaurant they won't say you how much calories is that meal; at mcdonald's they do.

No, but they'll tell you the cut of the steak and the weight and it's MUCH better for you than anything you'll get at McDonalds.

[simoxeh]

You didn't get it, it's 90% a matter of counting calories, not eating this or that ****. If you order a steak at a restaurant they won't say you how much calories is that meal; at mcdonald's they do.

Best advice ever. You can eat what you want as long as it is below your calories. You want to get your macros in for the day, but only protein and fat matters with that. If you need help with choosing tasty foods that are low calories and high protein I got a few good recipes and which fast food places have good food with reasonable calorie amount (kfc grill chicken is one but skip the bread). Message me and I will send you some.

Most importantly you are definitely progressing so keep going.

[cagliostro]

No, but they'll tell you the cut of the steak and the weight and it's MUCH better for you than anything you'll get at McDonalds.

So we got it, the problem is FAT! mcdonalds is bad because they use fat meat!
Those ugly, dirty FATS! Evene worse, the devil saturated animal fats!

[OldSchoolBuild]

So we got it, the problem is FAT! mcdonalds is bad because they use fat meat!
Those ugly, dirty FATS! Evene worse, the devil saturated animal fats!

Calculate the macros of 300 Calories of a Sirloin vs 300 Calories of something at McDonalds, and let me know if you think McDonalds Calories are still the same. Obvious Red is Obvious.

edit: Just a quick example Big Mac... 550 Calories 23g of Protein 29g of Fat... Half the Calories in a big mac come from fat. Not saying Fat is bad AT ALL... but I'd like to get the majority of my caloric intake form Protein and carbs. But Hey, if IIMYM works for you, then have at it.

[cagliostro]

but I'd like to get the majority of my caloric intake form Protein and carbs.

That's the point, why? Because 100 kcal from fats are more fattening than the same amount from carbs and protein? Because too much fats will definitively clog your artheries? Or you're simply FRIGHTENED by fats, coz' they've been demonized for decades?

PS: I'm not an IIFYM supporter, I just believe calories count, macros counting is useless, and we don't need 1 gram/LBM of protein, those are dogmas, broscience.

[matman1813]

Calculate the macros of 300 Calories of a Sirloin vs 300 Calories of something at McDonalds, and let me know if you think McDonalds calories are still the same. Obvious Red is Obvious.

I lol'd at this. If you take 300 calories of each one, of course the calories are still the same...

[simoxeh]

I lol'd at this. If you take 300 calories of each one, of course the calories are still the same...

I think he was saying the macros returns for those calories are different. You might gain the same weight (proteins take more energy to digest which is why I said might) but not necessarily build the same muscle or get the same energy. I don't eat McDonalds during my cut not because of the calories but because of the macro returns for those calories.

[OldSchoolBuild]

I lol'd at this. If you take 300 calories of each one, of course the calories are still the same...

lol'd at this ... thinking macros = calories.

And Simoxeh, that is exactly what I mean, "I don't eat McDonalds during my cut not because of the calories but because of the macro returns for those calories". Macro return for your caloric intake is extremely important. If you're like matman and your idea of a meeting your macros is just meeting your caloric intake and forgetting about everything else involved... then yes you can eat whatever you want. But it is much easier meeting your goals by eating clean, than it is to eat McDonalds everyday.

[matman1813]

lol'd at this ... thinking macros = calories.

And Simoxeh, that is exactly what I mean, "I don't eat McDonalds during my cut not because of the calories but because of the macro returns for those calories". Macro return for your caloric intake is extremely important. If you're like matman and your idea of a meeting your macros is just meeting your caloric intake and forgetting about everything else involved... then yes you can eat whatever you want. But it is much easier meeting your goals by eating clean, than it is to eat McDonalds everyday.

I never said nor insinuated such a thing, you seem to be very confused. You said "Calculate the macros of 300 Calories of a Sirloin vs 300 Calories of something at McDonalds, and let me know if you think McDonalds calories are still the same", well of course the calories are the same, there's 300 in each. Will they have the same effect on body composition? No, because they have different macro contents. Although, if you're sensible there's no reason you can't fit it into your macros every now and again.

[georgemiller]

Lol @ McDonalds as cutting food. I understand calories in vs. calories out but the quality of those calories is important if you want to function optimally and retain as much muscle as possible on your cut. At least in my experience. If you can shred up on Big Macs then yes I am very jealous and more power to you lol.